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Lost baggage /luggage delay, loss, damage - advice, compensation, etc. (consolidated)
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Lost baggage /luggage delay, loss, damage - advice, compensation, etc. (2015-onward)
Lost baggage /luggage delay, loss, damage - advice, compensation, etc. (2015-onward)
Track your bags Link
September 18, 2015:
Hello, Addressee,
AAdvantage Platinum Number:
You can now follow your checked bags from check-in to carousel with your smartphone, laptop or tablet. See real-time information about your bag's status, including when your bag is checked in, on a plane or at baggage claim. All you need is your bag tag number or your record locator.
And, if your flight has Wi-Fi onboard, you can track your bags in the air for free.
Here's how to get started:Keep track of your bags from check-in to touchdown using your record locator or bag tag number.
Hello, Addressee,
AAdvantage Platinum Number:
You can now follow your checked bags from check-in to carousel with your smartphone, laptop or tablet. See real-time information about your bag's status, including when your bag is checked in, on a plane or at baggage claim. All you need is your bag tag number or your record locator.
And, if your flight has Wi-Fi onboard, you can track your bags in the air for free.
Here's how to get started:
- Go to aa.com/baggage
- Click "Track your bags"
- Enter your last name and bag tag # or record locator
American Airlines: Delayed Baggage
:Baggage delayed less than 5 days
Phone: +1-800-535-5225
24 hours, 7 days a week
Baggage delayed longer than 5 days
See www.aa.com/bagstatus for further information.
Phone: +1-800-535-5225
24 hours, 7 days a week
Baggage delayed longer than 5 days
See www.aa.com/bagstatus for further information.
American Airlines: Delayed or missing baggage:
We do our best to ensure that your checked bag travels on the same flight with you. If your bag does not arrive on your flight, our goal is to return your bag to you within 24 hours. The measures may take longer for international itineraries due to flight frequency or Customs and Immigration procedures.
Note: These procedures apply when American Airlines or American Eagle are taking you to your final destination.
If you are unable to locate your checked bag:
Notify an American Airlines/American Eagle baggage service agent prior to leaving the airport (If you purchased the American Airlines baggage delivery service provided through BAGS VIP Luggage Delivery in advance of travel, notification must be made within 12 hours of the arrival of the flight on which you traveled.)
If your bag isn't located in five (5) days:
We do our best to ensure that your checked bag travels on the same flight with you. If your bag does not arrive on your flight, our goal is to return your bag to you within 24 hours. The measures may take longer for international itineraries due to flight frequency or Customs and Immigration procedures.
Note: These procedures apply when American Airlines or American Eagle are taking you to your final destination.
If you are unable to locate your checked bag:
Notify an American Airlines/American Eagle baggage service agent prior to leaving the airport (If you purchased the American Airlines baggage delivery service provided through BAGS VIP Luggage Delivery in advance of travel, notification must be made within 12 hours of the arrival of the flight on which you traveled.)
- You will be given a confidential file locator ID and a brochure explaining the recovery process
- Our Baggage Service desk will contact you periodically to keep you informed of our progress in locating your bag (aspirational statement)
- Refer to your confidential six-letter file locator (not your PNR) in all conversation and correspondence regarding your delayed bag
- Use your last name and confidential six-letter baggage file locator (not your PNR)to check the status of your bag.Check Baggage Status
- Central Baggage Service will take over the tracing effort
- Fill out and return a Property Questionnaire within 30 days from the date you traveled
- Available on the 6th day at www.aa.com/bagstatus.
- Mailed to your permanent address within 10 days of your travel date.
- Complete the questionnaire in its entirety including specific details such as colors, sizes, brand names and logos as well as information such as book titles, medication, electronics, gifts, souvenirs and food items
- Retain a copy for your records
Damaged baggage:
Prompt notification of a damaged bag helps us get your property to you promptly therefore all American Airlines and American Eagle airport locations are equipped to handle the initial report, evaluation and settlement of damage claims. If your bag is damaged, please notify us:
Please notify us as soon as possible. Failure to report damage to baggage within the prescribed time limit releases American Airlines and American Eagle from any liability.
Prompt notification of a damaged bag helps us get your property to you promptly therefore all American Airlines and American Eagle airport locations are equipped to handle the initial report, evaluation and settlement of damage claims. If your bag is damaged, please notify us:
- In person before leaving the airport
- At the latest, within 24 hours after you receive your bag for domestic itineraries
- Within 7 days for international itineraries
Notice regarding damage to wheels, handles, and other components of checked baggage
Baggage_Guidance_rev_11242015.pdf (link)
About this Document
In September 2015, the Office of Aviation Enforcement and Proceedings (Enforcement Office) conducted extensive inspections of U.S. and foreign air carriers’ operations at 16 U.S. airports. The Enforcement Office found, among other things, that carriers routinely exclude from liability damage to specific parts of checked baggage, such as wheels, straps, zippers, handles, and protruding parts. Carriers often post signs indicating that they categorically refuse to compensate passengers for such items. In some instances, carrier agents also discouraged or refused to accept reports of such damage.
Baggage_Guidance_rev_11242015.pdf (link)
About this Document
In September 2015, the Office of Aviation Enforcement and Proceedings (Enforcement Office) conducted extensive inspections of U.S. and foreign air carriers’ operations at 16 U.S. airports. The Enforcement Office found, among other things, that carriers routinely exclude from liability damage to specific parts of checked baggage, such as wheels, straps, zippers, handles, and protruding parts. Carriers often post signs indicating that they categorically refuse to compensate passengers for such items. In some instances, carrier agents also discouraged or refused to accept reports of such damage.
Link to aa.com Delayed Baggage; FAQ.
Link to aa.com LIABILITY LIMITATIONS regarding baggage - but see
USDOT reminder to airlines compensation is due for damaged wheels, straps, etc.
Link to aa.com DAMAGED BAGGAGE
Link to aa.com Delayed Baggage tracking form (need baggage claim file locator number to use)
American Airlines Conditions of Carriage (See BAGGAGE et seq., including Liability.)
Q. What can I do to help prevent or resolve baggage loss?
Others suggest:
- Don't place valuables in your checked baggage; such loss is generally not covered by airline policy. Some airports have higher pilferage and theft rates.
- Have two baggage tags, affixed at different points on each bag; handles do get torn off.
- Use a baggage belt: some have TSA-approved locks, and a belt may keep your bag from spilling contents if it becomes damaged. A bright color helps distinguish your bag from similar ones.
- Add a pom, ribbon or other device enabling you - and others - to distinguish your bag from similar / identical bags.
- Have identifying information and an itinerary inside your case where it will be seen if the bag is opened (which will occur if external tags are lost). Some use an itinerary tag such as this Magellan's retriever tags.
- Have a photo or two of your bags on your smartphone to show the baggage clerk exactly what your bag looks like.
- Don't use high end luggage; fancy, famous brands and fine finishes make your bag a target of thieves.
- Airline status tags mark your bag as belonging to a high value customer, but nobody's provided evidence that helps. Some have reported status tagged bags may be targeted for delays during industrial actions such as employee slowdowns or strikes.
Updated: 31 Dec 2015
ARCHIVE: Lost baggage /luggage delay, loss, damage - advice, etc. (pre-2018)
#181
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Welcome to FlyerTalk! Sorry to hear about your loss of stuff. You don't say what "expensive items" were looted, but many such are specifically not covered, and there are limits and limitations on reporting (see below).
You should check the airline's Conditions of Carriage as they relate to baggage <link> - they tell you what you are covered for and what not (it's pretty one-sided, since they are covered and you are generally not covered much). In part:
Liability (in part)
...American does not accept in or as checked baggage any of the following items: antiques, artifacts, artwork, books and documents, china, computers and other electronic equipment, computer software, fragile items (including child/infant restraint devices such as strollers and car seats), eyeglasses, prescription sunglasses, non-prescription sunglasses and all other eyewear and eye/vision devices whether lenses are glass, plastic, or some other material, furs, heirlooms, keys, liquids, medicines, money, orthotics, surgical supports, perishable items, photographic, video and optical equipment, precious metals, stones or jewelry, securities and negotiable papers, silverware, samples, unique or irreplaceable items or any other similar valuable items.
American does not accept these items in or as checked baggage and assumes no responsibility or liability for such items, regardless of whether American knew or should have known of the presence of such items in checked or transferred baggage. If any such items are lost, damaged or delayed, you will not be entitled to any reimbursement under American's standard baggage liability, or under any declared excess valuation. Do not attempt to check these items. Carry them with you in the passenger cabin (subject to carry-on baggage limitations)...
and the clincher here, as you and videomaker stated:
Missing Items
Items missing from checked baggage must be reported to American before leaving the airport or within 24 hours of the receipt of the bag.
Your post and replies will be merged into the existing "Baggage Luggage delay loss advice compensation prevention etc. consolidated thread.
You should check the airline's Conditions of Carriage as they relate to baggage <link> - they tell you what you are covered for and what not (it's pretty one-sided, since they are covered and you are generally not covered much). In part:
Liability (in part)
...American does not accept in or as checked baggage any of the following items: antiques, artifacts, artwork, books and documents, china, computers and other electronic equipment, computer software, fragile items (including child/infant restraint devices such as strollers and car seats), eyeglasses, prescription sunglasses, non-prescription sunglasses and all other eyewear and eye/vision devices whether lenses are glass, plastic, or some other material, furs, heirlooms, keys, liquids, medicines, money, orthotics, surgical supports, perishable items, photographic, video and optical equipment, precious metals, stones or jewelry, securities and negotiable papers, silverware, samples, unique or irreplaceable items or any other similar valuable items.
American does not accept these items in or as checked baggage and assumes no responsibility or liability for such items, regardless of whether American knew or should have known of the presence of such items in checked or transferred baggage. If any such items are lost, damaged or delayed, you will not be entitled to any reimbursement under American's standard baggage liability, or under any declared excess valuation. Do not attempt to check these items. Carry them with you in the passenger cabin (subject to carry-on baggage limitations)...
and the clincher here, as you and videomaker stated:
Missing Items
Items missing from checked baggage must be reported to American before leaving the airport or within 24 hours of the receipt of the bag.
Your post and replies will be merged into the existing "Baggage Luggage delay loss advice compensation prevention etc. consolidated thread.
#182
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Welcome to Flyertalk. However as others have said you are out of luck. I can not understand how some one with expensive items in luggage would wait a week to unpack. You have no way to prove they were stolen.
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Thank you to everyone who responded to my thread. Please let me know if this piece of information changes the situation at all (although I suspect from everyone's initial responses that it doesn't):
The luggage from which my items were stolen (my girlfriends $1100 purse and a $600 pair of my sunglasses) was not intended as checked luggage. The items were taken from a carry-on suitcase that the airline took from me and put under the plane at the gate because of overcrowding in the overhead bins. Additionally, the reason that I didn't open my suitcase for a week after the trip to Detroit was that almost immediately upon arriving in Detroit, I left for a business trip that I had packed separately for. Although I understand the airlines interest in a 24-hour reporting window, in a situation such as mine I would hope that they would make an exception because no reasonable traveler would expect that items of theirs would be stolen by airline employees.
Thanks to everyone for their tips thus far.
The luggage from which my items were stolen (my girlfriends $1100 purse and a $600 pair of my sunglasses) was not intended as checked luggage. The items were taken from a carry-on suitcase that the airline took from me and put under the plane at the gate because of overcrowding in the overhead bins. Additionally, the reason that I didn't open my suitcase for a week after the trip to Detroit was that almost immediately upon arriving in Detroit, I left for a business trip that I had packed separately for. Although I understand the airlines interest in a 24-hour reporting window, in a situation such as mine I would hope that they would make an exception because no reasonable traveler would expect that items of theirs would be stolen by airline employees.
Thanks to everyone for their tips thus far.
#184
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The luggage from which my items were stolen (my girlfriends $1100 purse and a $600 pair of my sunglasses) was not intended as checked luggage. The items were taken from a carry-on suitcase that the airline took from me and put under the plane at the gate because of overcrowding in the overhead bins.
Thanks to everyone for their tips thus far.
Thanks to everyone for their tips thus far.
#185
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Have you checked if you might be covered with either homeowners or renters insurance? Also, some credit cards provide protection if items are stolen within a certain period of time (AMEX has a card that offers theft coverage for 90 days after purchase), should something like that apply in your situation.
#186
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The luggage from which my items were stolen (my girlfriends $1100 purse and a $600 pair of my sunglasses) was not intended as checked luggage. The items were taken from a carry-on suitcase that the airline took from me and put under the plane at the gate because of overcrowding in the overhead bins.
When forced to gate check a bag, those are the kind of items that should be removed and carried on the plane.
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"I would hope that they would make an exception because no reasonable traveler would expect that items of theirs would be stolen by airline employees."
Ummmm how often do you travel??? Any frequent flier knows the bags that get checked are opened, and yes at times things are stolen. It's been in the local news laptops, and even guns have been stolen by Airline/TSA employees!!! I have even had a $200 electric razor stolen. I find it reckless that someone traveling would let a $1,100 purse get checked, even at the last minute when on board the plane!!! Sorry you had to learn the hard way.
On another note my bags were recently delayed. Second time in 10 years. What made this a major issue for me is that I was departing within 48 hours on another trip. After 12 hours with no bags I called American in a panic and was transferred to some executive customer service office. # 1 they promised the bags would be returned to me within 24 hours, and deposited 15,000 miles into my account.
The bags arrived within 24 hours, and I'm happy that American gave me the bonus miles for my troubles. FYI': They bags were delayed due to mechanical problems at Ohare.
Ummmm how often do you travel??? Any frequent flier knows the bags that get checked are opened, and yes at times things are stolen. It's been in the local news laptops, and even guns have been stolen by Airline/TSA employees!!! I have even had a $200 electric razor stolen. I find it reckless that someone traveling would let a $1,100 purse get checked, even at the last minute when on board the plane!!! Sorry you had to learn the hard way.
On another note my bags were recently delayed. Second time in 10 years. What made this a major issue for me is that I was departing within 48 hours on another trip. After 12 hours with no bags I called American in a panic and was transferred to some executive customer service office. # 1 they promised the bags would be returned to me within 24 hours, and deposited 15,000 miles into my account.
The bags arrived within 24 hours, and I'm happy that American gave me the bonus miles for my troubles. FYI': They bags were delayed due to mechanical problems at Ohare.
Thank you to everyone who responded to my thread. Please let me know if this piece of information changes the situation at all (although I suspect from everyone's initial responses that it doesn't):
The luggage from which my items were stolen (my girlfriends $1100 purse and a $600 pair of my sunglasses) was not intended as checked luggage. The items were taken from a carry-on suitcase that the airline took from me and put under the plane at the gate because of overcrowding in the overhead bins. Additionally, the reason that I didn't open my suitcase for a week after the trip to Detroit was that almost immediately upon arriving in Detroit, I left for a business trip that I had packed separately for. Although I understand the airlines interest in a 24-hour reporting window, in a situation such as mine I would hope that they would make an exception because no reasonable traveler would expect that items of theirs would be stolen by airline employees.
Thanks to everyone for their tips thus far.
The luggage from which my items were stolen (my girlfriends $1100 purse and a $600 pair of my sunglasses) was not intended as checked luggage. The items were taken from a carry-on suitcase that the airline took from me and put under the plane at the gate because of overcrowding in the overhead bins. Additionally, the reason that I didn't open my suitcase for a week after the trip to Detroit was that almost immediately upon arriving in Detroit, I left for a business trip that I had packed separately for. Although I understand the airlines interest in a 24-hour reporting window, in a situation such as mine I would hope that they would make an exception because no reasonable traveler would expect that items of theirs would be stolen by airline employees.
Thanks to everyone for their tips thus far.
Last edited by Radiant Flyer; Aug 28, 2010 at 11:50 pm
#188
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Liability (in part)
...American does not accept in or as checked baggage any of the following items: antiques, artifacts, artwork, books and documents, china, computers and other electronic equipment, computer software, fragile items (including child/infant restraint devices such as strollers and car seats), eyeglasses, prescription sunglasses, non-prescription sunglasses and all other eyewear and eye/vision devices whether lenses are glass, plastic, or some other material, furs, heirlooms, keys, liquids, medicines, money, orthotics, surgical supports, perishable items, photographic, video and optical equipment, precious metals, stones or jewelry, securities and negotiable papers, silverware, samples, unique or irreplaceable items or any other similar valuable items.
American does not accept these items in or as checked baggage and assumes no responsibility or liability for such items, regardless of whether American knew or should have known of the presence of such items in checked or transferred baggage. If any such items are lost, damaged or delayed, you will not be entitled to any reimbursement under American's standard baggage liability, or under any declared excess valuation. Do not attempt to check these items. Carry them with you in the passenger cabin (subject to carry-on baggage limitations)...
Missing Items
Items missing from checked baggage must be reported to American before leaving the airport or within 24 hours of the receipt of the bag.
...
...
Liability (in part)
...American does not accept in or as checked baggage any of the following items: antiques, artifacts, artwork, books and documents, china, computers and other electronic equipment, computer software, fragile items (including child/infant restraint devices such as strollers and car seats), eyeglasses, prescription sunglasses, non-prescription sunglasses and all other eyewear and eye/vision devices whether lenses are glass, plastic, or some other material, furs, heirlooms, keys, liquids, medicines, money, orthotics, surgical supports, perishable items, photographic, video and optical equipment, precious metals, stones or jewelry, securities and negotiable papers, silverware, samples, unique or irreplaceable items or any other similar valuable items.
American does not accept these items in or as checked baggage and assumes no responsibility or liability for such items, regardless of whether American knew or should have known of the presence of such items in checked or transferred baggage. If any such items are lost, damaged or delayed, you will not be entitled to any reimbursement under American's standard baggage liability, or under any declared excess valuation. Do not attempt to check these items. Carry them with you in the passenger cabin (subject to carry-on baggage limitations)...
Missing Items
Items missing from checked baggage must be reported to American before leaving the airport or within 24 hours of the receipt of the bag.
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i.e. the Airline must cover the loss of said items (including valuables/fragiles) and a claimant has 7 Days to notify of loss in writing.
http://www.dot.gov/ost/ogc/Montreal1999.pdf
To MILNER, if it is still not more than seven days since you collected said luggage you must notify AA in writing. See Articles 31.2 and 31.3 of the Montreal Convention.
Last edited by serfty; Aug 29, 2010 at 3:02 am
#189
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Note that since MLINER was on an International Itinerary and the USA is a signatory to it, the Montreal Convention overrides both of those clauses:
i.e. the Airline must cover the loss of said items (including valuables/fragiles) and a claimant has 7 Days to notify of loss in writing.
http://www.dot.gov/ost/ogc/Montreal1999.pdf
To MILNER, if it is still not more than seven days since you collected said luggage you must notify AA in writing. See Articles 31.2 and 31.3 of the Montreal Convention.
i.e. the Airline must cover the loss of said items (including valuables/fragiles) and a claimant has 7 Days to notify of loss in writing.
http://www.dot.gov/ost/ogc/Montreal1999.pdf
To MILNER, if it is still not more than seven days since you collected said luggage you must notify AA in writing. See Articles 31.2 and 31.3 of the Montreal Convention.
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Puerto Rico ( /ˌpwɛərtə ˈriːkoʊ/ or /ˌpɔrtə ˈriːkoʊ/), officially the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico (Spanish: "Estado Libre Asociado de Puerto Rico" — literally Associated Free State of Puerto Rico), is an unincorporated territory of the United States, located in the northeastern Caribbean Sea, east of the Dominican Republic and west of the Virgin Islands.
Last edited by serfty; Aug 29, 2010 at 4:59 am
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I don't see how this can be construed as an international itinerary. How could an unincorperated territory of the US be considered to be distinct (for these purposes) from the rest of the US, considering the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is not listed as a separate signatory to the Montreal Protocol?
Last edited by oklAAhoma; Aug 29, 2010 at 5:48 am
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Not only do you have a problem with the 24-hour limitation, but even if you had discovered and reported the theft within 24 hours, I suspect that you would have a problem with the fact that the items stolen were many times the cost of the average sunglasses or purse. There is a reason why AA tells you not to check valuables. I know you didn't intend to check this bag, but as others have said, when forced to you have to remove the valuables. The only time this happened to me, I stopped to remove about $2,000 of camera gear from my carryon. The carryon was almost empty when I got all the camera stuff out. FA didn't say a word, took it and checked it.
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I don't see how this can be construed as an international itinerary. How could an unincorperated territory of the US be considered to be distinct (for these purposes) from the rest of the US, considering the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is not listed as a separate signatory to the Montreal Protocol?
Court analyzes definition of “international carriage” under Montreal Convention
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As I read it, I think that link proves my point.
“For the purposes of this Convention, the expression international carriage means any carriage in which, according to the agreement between the parties, the place of departure and the place of destination, whether or not there be a break in the carriage or a transhipment, are situated either within the territories of two States Parties, or within the territory of a single State Party if there is an agreed stopping place within the territory of another State, even if that State is not a State Party” (emphasis in original).
Unless there were segments the OP has not mentioned, the entire trip (Puerto Rico-US) was within the territories of a single State Party, and there was no stopping place within the territory of another State. Unless I am missing something, (which is certainly possible), the requisite two State Parties needed to make this an international trip as defined under the Montreal Convention are not involved.
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Agrre - the link does indicate your point. Puerto Rico is a territory of the US and Montreal probably does not apply. I posted it to do so.
However it's good to remember that the AA's (nor any Airline's) C&C's are not always the final arbiter. If the origin had been, say, PAP then the situation may have been different.
Specifically, if an international routing including a signatory country to the Montreal Convention and items in checked luggage go missing then:
However it's good to remember that the AA's (nor any Airline's) C&C's are not always the final arbiter. If the origin had been, say, PAP then the situation may have been different.
Specifically, if an international routing including a signatory country to the Montreal Convention and items in checked luggage go missing then:
- There is a one week time limit to make a claim in writing, and,
- The carriers liability is limited to 1000XDR's (Currently ~USD1500)
Last edited by serfty; Aug 29, 2010 at 5:24 pm