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Note: Live AA baggage tracking became available 15 Sep 2015.

Track your bags Link
September 18, 2015:

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You can now follow your checked bags from check-in to carousel with your smartphone, laptop or tablet. See real-time information about your bag's status, including when your bag is checked in, on a plane or at baggage claim. All you need is your bag tag number or your record locator.

And, if your flight has Wi-Fi onboard, you can track your bags in the air for free.

Here's how to get started:
  • Go to aa.com/baggage
  • Click "Track your bags"
  • Enter your last name and bag tag # or record locator
Keep track of your bags from check-in to touchdown using your record locator or bag tag number.
NOTE: On itineraries with more than one airline, the responsible airline for lost or delayed baggage is the final carrier; that carrier's procedures may differ from AA's. In any case, most do require if you arrive at your destination and your baggage has not arrived (or has been damaged), be sure to fill out a baggage claim form prior to leaving the airport.

American Airlines: Delayed Baggage
:Baggage delayed less than 5 days
Phone: +1-800-535-5225
24 hours, 7 days a week

Baggage delayed longer than 5 days
See www.aa.com/bagstatus for further information.
American Airlines: Delayed or missing baggage:

We do our best to ensure that your checked bag travels on the same flight with you. If your bag does not arrive on your flight, our goal is to return your bag to you within 24 hours. The measures may take longer for international itineraries due to flight frequency or Customs and Immigration procedures.

Note: These procedures apply when American Airlines or American Eagle are taking you to your final destination.

If you are unable to locate your checked bag:

Notify an American Airlines/American Eagle baggage service agent prior to leaving the airport (If you purchased the American Airlines baggage delivery service provided through BAGS VIP Luggage Delivery in advance of travel, notification must be made within 12 hours of the arrival of the flight on which you traveled.)
  • You will be given a confidential file locator ID and a brochure explaining the recovery process
  • Our Baggage Service desk will contact you periodically to keep you informed of our progress in locating your bag (aspirational statement)
  • Refer to your confidential six-letter file locator (not your PNR) in all conversation and correspondence regarding your delayed bag
  • Use your last name and confidential six-letter baggage file locator (not your PNR)to check the status of your bag.Check Baggage Status
If your bag isn't located in five (5) days:
  • Central Baggage Service will take over the tracing effort
  • Fill out and return a Property Questionnaire within 30 days from the date you traveled
  • Available on the 6th day at www.aa.com/bagstatus.
  • Mailed to your permanent address within 10 days of your travel date.
  • Complete the questionnaire in its entirety including specific details such as colors, sizes, brand names and logos as well as information such as book titles, medication, electronics, gifts, souvenirs and food items
  • Retain a copy for your records
Damaged baggage:

Prompt notification of a damaged bag helps us get your property to you promptly therefore all American Airlines and American Eagle airport locations are equipped to handle the initial report, evaluation and settlement of damage claims. If your bag is damaged, please notify us:
  • In person before leaving the airport
  • At the latest, within 24 hours after you receive your bag for domestic itineraries
  • Within 7 days for international itineraries
Please notify us as soon as possible. Failure to report damage to baggage within the prescribed time limit releases American Airlines and American Eagle from any liability.
Wheels, "protuberances" etc. please see:

Notice regarding damage to wheels, handles, and other components of checked baggage

Baggage_Guidance_rev_11242015.pdf (link)

About this Document

In September 2015, the Office of Aviation Enforcement and Proceedings (Enforcement Office) conducted extensive inspections of U.S. and foreign air carriers’ operations at 16 U.S. airports. The Enforcement Office found, among other things, that carriers routinely exclude from liability damage to specific parts of checked baggage, such as wheels, straps, zippers, handles, and protruding parts. Carriers often post signs indicating that they categorically refuse to compensate passengers for such items. In some instances, carrier agents also discouraged or refused to accept reports of such damage.

Link to aa.com Delayed Baggage; FAQ.

Link to aa.com LIABILITY LIMITATIONS regarding baggage - but see

USDOT reminder to airlines compensation is due for damaged wheels, straps, etc.

Link to aa.com DAMAGED BAGGAGE

Link to aa.com Delayed Baggage tracking form (need baggage claim file locator number to use)

American Airlines Conditions of Carriage (See BAGGAGE et seq., including Liability.)

Q. What can I do to help prevent or resolve baggage loss?
  • Don't place valuables in your checked baggage; such loss is generally not covered by airline policy. Some airports have higher pilferage and theft rates.
  • Have two baggage tags, affixed at different points on each bag; handles do get torn off.
  • Use a baggage belt: some have TSA-approved locks, and a belt may keep your bag from spilling contents if it becomes damaged. A bright color helps distinguish your bag from similar ones.
  • Add a pom, ribbon or other device enabling you - and others - to distinguish your bag from similar / identical bags.
  • Have identifying information and an itinerary inside your case where it will be seen if the bag is opened (which will occur if external tags are lost). Some use an itinerary tag such as this Magellan's retriever tags.
  • Have a photo or two of your bags on your smartphone to show the baggage clerk exactly what your bag looks like.
Others suggest:
  • Don't use high end luggage; fancy, famous brands and fine finishes make your bag a target of thieves.
  • Airline status tags mark your bag as belonging to a high value customer, but nobody's provided evidence that helps. Some have reported status tagged bags may be targeted for delays during industrial actions such as employee slowdowns or strikes.

Updated: 31 Dec 2015

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Old Jul 8, 2010, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by brahms77
I am really disappointed with AA and OW as a result of all of this year's experiences!
Every carrier loses bags and goes by international liability limits. And if the bag turns up during the trip, it's going to be hard to catch up to you with that kind of itinerary.

You are correct that AA's international weight limits are lower than some other carriers.

While not excusing AA for losing it, if you're carrying a bag that costs more than $400 not including what's inside, you should check on liability limits before traveling and consider additional insurance.

Last edited by videomaker; Jul 8, 2010 at 9:29 am
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 9:27 am
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True: every carrier loses bags, and I do understand that there will always be some chance of losing one's baggage on a given flight. What I encountered to be most annoying is how AA agents handles these cases. Of the three to four times I called and my interactions with the agents at the airport, they never said a word of apology for the lost or delayed bag.

You say why bring a bag worth more than 400 USD... hmmm for an ATW itinerary where we are gone for several consecutive weeks, it's not that hard to pack a bag that's worth more than 400 USD! Let alone the value of the bag!

Insurance is certainly what I should have done, but that's irrelevant of airlines losing bags and being rude to customers who are stranded without a bag and providing no assistance (that's what I am angry at!).

Compensations cannot match much of the inconveniences we've experiences in the last week (and what we are about to experience in the next couple of weeks if the bag is not found)!



Originally Posted by videomaker
Every carrier loses bags and goes by international liability limits. And if the bag turns up during the trip, it's going to be hard to catch up to you with that kind of itinerary.

You are correct that AA's weight international weight limits are lower than some other carriers.

While not excusing AA for losing it, if you're carrying a bag that costs more than $400 not including what's inside, you should check on liability limits before traveling and consider additional insurance.
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by brahms77
4) Question

What should I do?

What can AA do for me?!

What would be my appropriate action before leaving London?

5) Frustrations!

* Lots of frustration with AA (especially with their poor handling of baggage - lost our bag two straight flights)
* AA and OW baggage allowance is no where near the benefit I received as *G with *A airlines! - I have had much trouble with my bags that were just 2-3 kg over weight! I had to pay extras for these overweights!
* I am much invested in AA this year (LONE4 + 8 1,000 + USD tickets for my wife and I) so I will continue with AA till end of the year and move over to *A...

I am really disappointed with AA and OW as a result of all of this year's experiences!
There are basically two types of posts regarding lost baggage - posts seeking information about how to proceed, and posts wanting emotional release via ranting. Your post seems to combine the two genres, which makes it difficult to answer. When videomaker replied to the first part, you interpreted it as a denial of the validity of the second part.

On the second part, it is reasonable to be outraged and frustrated. Consider yourself validated.

On the first part, there isn't really much that you can do that you haven't already done to make this particular instance better. Keep contacting them and following up is the only thing I can offer, and that will involve a lot of time. If you get ahead of your bags on multi-PNR trips it can be difficult, as AA isn't used to that or set up to handle it. Suggestions have been made that could help in the future.
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 12:53 pm
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If you are traveling on a single PNR, the bag has a much better chance to catch up with you even if you have moved about a lot already.

Last year a friend traveled on an AA award ticket that involved BA and IB on intra-Europe flights. His checked bag did not arrive with me at LHR on AA. Eventually the bag got to MAD 4 days later the night before he was about to leave for another Spanish town by train when he got the phone call. He was able to get IB to deliver the bag at his next stop which was BCN.

I am not sure any airline can do much when multiple PNRs are involved on a continuous itinerary and this seems to be OP's case.
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by brahms77
I was typing out a long post and was logged out while doing so... and I lost all the text... Oh boy...

So, long story short:

1) Background of our ticket
* My wife and I are on LONE4 (ex-ICN, we started in January and we picked up the itinerary again at the end of June) as part of our year-long honeymoon!!! - We used the first portion of the the ticket to head to YUL where I am currently pursuing a PhD at McGill

2) The baggage story
* AA lost my wife's bag enroute to ANC from YUL on the first journey back on LONE4 to re-start our honeymoon travels!
* We are planning to be in London (2 weeks)/South America (various countries for 3.5 weeks)/Europe and Asia (3 weeks) before heading home to YUL at the end of August
* No sign of baggage as of today (July 8: 9 days)
* We are both AA PLAT (I am on my way to EXPLT - should reach sometime at the end of this summer) - really tried hard to fly with AA (especially because both myself and my wife have status *G and *S on *A)
* We left ANC on the 2nd of July for London (via DFW - this is where we stopped our LONE4 and picked up a new ticket to LONDON) for a 2 week course for my PhD
* To add insult to our injury, one of my bag was delayed one day when we arrived in LHR (I had to start with the courses in the same clothes I wore for two straight days without toiletries)
* We are heading back to DFW on the 17th of July to pick up our LONE4 journey to South America
* Thereafter, we will be moving from one place to another in every 3 days on average

3) Upon contact to Baggage services
* AA has authorized 500 USD (after initial 150 USD) for essentials - no cash provided (per their policy - my experience with LH and SA in the last month during our journey in Africa was that they paid 100 USD cash for the delayed baggage that came the following day - quite an interesting contrast in airline policies!)

* Upon contacting the baggage services on day 6 of lost baggage, the agent rudely tells me (without me having to ask) that the max compensation for lost baggage is 453 USD per international convention (Warsaw, I believe) -the bag itself is more than 400 USD!

* When I mention to her that 453 USD is no where near the value of our bag , she immediately says "don't file a claim if you don't want to!" and starts to say that she gets such calls 30 times a day! - Well, isn't that her job to handle lost baggage issues?

* Now two more days have passed, no sign of luggage

* Due to our extensive travels, I am left with maxed-out credit card, and some cash (need to save for emergency cases). I don't have time to go buy clothes as my wife and I are busy with the course!

4) Question

What should I do?

What can AA do for me?!

What would be my appropriate action before leaving London?

5) Frustrations!

* Lots of frustration with AA (especially with their poor handling of baggage - lost our bag two straight flights)
* AA and OW baggage allowance is no where near the benefit I received as *G with *A airlines! - I have had much trouble with my bags that were just 2-3 kg over weight! I had to pay extras for these overweights!
* I am much invested in AA this year (LONE4 + 8 1,000 + USD tickets for my wife and I) so I will continue with AA till end of the year and move over to *A...

I am really disappointed with AA and OW as a result of all of this year's experiences!
I have had a similar experience with NW once, except that there was damage on the bagage once it got there which had some clothes damaged as well. Long story short after a few discussions back and forth they agreed (after me making it clear I would pursue this in small claims court once I got back to the US, the incident happened in AMS I believe) to repay the replacement value of what was held up and damaged. It wasn't pretty for NWA and the sent me a check. My suggestion would be to buy what you need and let them know you will be coming after them for compensation even if there is no damage. Be thoughtful in what you buy (for example if you are used to wearing a certain type of clothing and can prove it, that is what you should buy) and make sure to save every receipt. GL on your extended honeymoon, sounds fabolous.
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 1:57 pm
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This is a bummer all the way around. Hopefully hind-sight will see this more as a footnote "adventure" in your year-long honeymoon than a reason to hate a carrier that you state you're emotionally invested in.

If you make EXPLAT the benefits are significant - including an unpublished/unstated benefit that the airline will often do more to help you out in these situations.

I do at least 4 or 5 xONEx trips a year, and I've learned a few lessons the including:
- Always carry on what you need to wear for the next stop (usually 3-4 days for me).
- Check what you don't need and can afford to lose.
- Carry duplicate copies of all PNRs so that they can be quickly handed to staff.
- Keep a snapshot of your checked luggage - it's helpful for identification and/or claims of damage or loss.
- Smile and roll with the unusual situations. Doing a dozen or so segments a trip, there's a high probability something unexpected will happen.

Better luck on the remainder of your trip!
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 7:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
If you are traveling on a single PNR, the bag has a much better chance to catch up with you even if you have moved about a lot already.

Last year a friend traveled on an AA award ticket that involved BA and IB on intra-Europe flights. His checked bag did not arrive with me at LHR on AA. Eventually the bag got to MAD 4 days later the night before he was about to leave for another Spanish town by train when he got the phone call. He was able to get IB to deliver the bag at his next stop which was BCN.

I am not sure any airline can do much when multiple PNRs are involved on a continuous itinerary and this seems to be OP's case.
NOTE: the bag was lost on a single PNR itinerary. We traveled on a separate ticket AFTER the bag was lost in ANC. It would have been fine if AA was able to find the bag within 5 days or so of filing the lost claim then we know that they know where the bag is. In this case, they don't know where the bag is... PERIOD.

Anyway, I needed to vent the frustrations as no one... literally no one at AA apologized about the lost bag and just told me that such was not their job description. No sympathy about the situation was given nor proactive assistance.

I was really hoping that people do not read into the emotional issues (our trip has already been ruined... what has happened cannot be undone!) but provide with your sage opinions on how I should go about in discussing compensation/resolution regarding such unfortunate situation with AA (i.e. what is reasonable for us to ask, what have you all experienced in situations similar to this, what can I do in the event that AA cannot find the bag - in more specifics, can I request AA to give us additional purchase approval than what they have approved us now that the bag is missing for more than 10 days!, etc.).

I appreciate your opinions and advice.
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by brahms77
literally no one at AA apologized about the lost bag and just told me that such was not their job description. No sympathy about the situation was given nor proactive assistance.
The AA employees you spoke with--were they with baggage services, or airport employees where it truly would not be in their job descriptions?

I certainly don't know how you approached the AA employees you spoke with. Often--and I don't know if it's the case here--the attitude taken when starting a conversation can affect how someone else responds.

As for what you can expect, AA's baggage liability limitations are clearly outlined here on their website. That's what you can expect.
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by videomaker
The AA employees you spoke with--were they with baggage services, or airport employees where it truly would not be in their job descriptions?

I certainly don't know how you approached the AA employees you spoke with. Often--and I don't know if it's the case here--the attitude taken when starting a conversation can affect how someone else responds.

As for what you can expect, AA's baggage liability limitations are clearly outlined here on their website. That's what you can expect.
No where in my conversations with the agents (various level - airport, phone - baggage) were I rude nor demanded many things. I always start my conversations very politely as it's always helps in situations like this... but not a single agent I spoke to had a friendly tone - yes, it may be their job description to be polite or be friendly, but it's not right to tell me "don't file a loss claim if you don't want to."

Anyway, thanks for the info.
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 7:56 pm
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if you can swing it.. use an amex plat card.. i use the luggage protection when i know i will be traveling with the wife and checking bags.
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by brahms77
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Anyway, thanks for the info.
Since you were on an International Itinerary (YUL-ANC) and both the USA and Canada are signatories to it, the Montreal convention applies.

From the AA web site page linked to by videomaker, compensation is limited:
Originally Posted by AA.com
  • International travel governed by the Montreal Convention - 1,131 SDR (Special Drawing Rights) per ticketed passenger
An SDR is treated as a foreign currency and it exchange rate varies.

Currently, ONE SDR is worth ~USD1.50, so AA's liability is limited to somthing over $1,600 per passenger.
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Old Jul 8, 2010, 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by brahms77
NOTE: the bag was lost on a single PNR itinerary. We traveled on a separate ticket AFTER the bag was lost in ANC. It would have been fine if AA was able to find the bag within 5 days or so of filing the lost claim then we know that they know where the bag is. In this case, they don't know where the bag is... PERIOD.
I know the bag was lost on one PNR, it's the other PNRs you have traveled since that is making it difficult for your bag to catch up with you. It's not entirely clear from your original post (the one that is now post #150 in this thread), but it appeared to me that you flew YUL-DFW-ANC June 30 on one PNR to get back to ANC to pick up your LONE4, then flew ANC-DFW July 2 on the LONE4 (second PNR), then continued on to London on a third PNR (no time was mentioned, so I assumed this was July 3). AA is geared to deliver the bag to the destination that it is checked to. If you have already left that destination on the same PNR, they are pretty good at having the bag follow you. In your case, it appears you were flying on 3 PNRs in 4 days, and they aren't so good at that. Not saying I haven't done something similar, inserting a PNR into the stopover on another PNR - I have - but I know there is a baggage risk there, and I do worry about it when I do it. Right now, I would say your baggage is at YUL, ANC, DFW, or LHR. The baggage tag on it says ANC and references the first PNR. If they haven't matched the bag to your paperwork yet, that's all they have, and that likely is the problem.
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Old Jul 9, 2010, 3:30 am
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Hi gemac, to be a bit more clear, YUL-DFW-ANC and then to DFW was all on one PNR, which is my LONE4. So, the bag was lost in the middle of my LONE4 PNR and because they were not able to locate/trace my bag by the time I left DFW (respectively ANC on July 2nd), I flew on a second PNR which took me to London. I then resume my first PNR when I return to DFW next week to head to EZE.

The problem is that they can't even trace where the bag is to begin with (starting from when we arrived in ANC to this date). Another issue is that one of the agents I talked to on the phone (baggage services) said that AA don't scan bags... and she continued on to say that the ONLY airline that scans the bags is UNITED. So, why do AA make an effort to print tags that have barcodes?



Originally Posted by gemac
I know the bag was lost on one PNR, it's the other PNRs you have traveled since that is making it difficult for your bag to catch up with you. It's not entirely clear from your original post (the one that is now post #150 in this thread), but it appeared to me that you flew YUL-DFW-ANC June 30 on one PNR to get back to ANC to pick up your LONE4, then flew ANC-DFW July 2 on the LONE4 (second PNR), then continued on to London on a third PNR (no time was mentioned, so I assumed this was July 3). AA is geared to deliver the bag to the destination that it is checked to. If you have already left that destination on the same PNR, they are pretty good at having the bag follow you. In your case, it appears you were flying on 3 PNRs in 4 days, and they aren't so good at that. Not saying I haven't done something similar, inserting a PNR into the stopover on another PNR - I have - but I know there is a baggage risk there, and I do worry about it when I do it. Right now, I would say your baggage is at YUL, ANC, DFW, or LHR. The baggage tag on it says ANC and references the first PNR. If they haven't matched the bag to your paperwork yet, that's all they have, and that likely is the problem.
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Old Jul 9, 2010, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by brahms77
So, why do AA make an effort to print tags that have barcodes?
As it's been explained to me by the baggage folks, they will scan a bag that has obviously gone astray--like one marked with a final destination of ANC that shows up on the carousel at JFK. But normally, no.
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Originally Posted by brahms77
Hi gemac, to be a bit more clear, YUL-DFW-ANC and then to DFW was all on one PNR, which is my LONE4. So, the bag was lost in the middle of my LONE4 PNR and because they were not able to locate/trace my bag by the time I left DFW (respectively ANC on July 2nd), I flew on a second PNR which took me to London. I then resume my first PNR when I return to DFW next week to head to EZE.

The problem is that they can't even trace where the bag is to begin with (starting from when we arrived in ANC to this date). Another issue is that one of the agents I talked to on the phone (baggage services) said that AA don't scan bags... and she continued on to say that the ONLY airline that scans the bags is UNITED. So, why do AA make an effort to print tags that have barcodes?
Thanks for making that more clear. As I said earlier, I have done that before (insert a PNR at a stopover in another PNR), but have always worried about doing so. I don't know anything more that you could do in this case, seems like you have done everything possible.

We all wish that AA would scan all bag tags and track them through to the destination (like FedEx does), but they don't see a benefit to them for the cost.
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