Oct 28, 2012, 8:27 pm
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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Note that free stopovers have been eliminated as of 8 April 2014, so that portion of this discussion is no longer current.
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For AA's announcement of their new One-Way Flex Awards, see: http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...FlexAwards.jsp
For AA's FAQ on the new One-Way Flex Awards, including the new stopover rule, see: http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...award_faqs.jsp
Q: Do one-way awards include any stopovers?
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
A: Awards between North America and Europe, India, Asia, and Central / South America allow a stopover at the North American gateway. However, other one-way awards do not allow stopovers.
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New One-Way Flex Award / Awards, <NO> Stopover Rule, and Booking Engine (May 9, 2009)
Jan 23, 2014, 8:39 am
#931
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Gateway stop is not a trick. It's specifically and clearly stated in the rules that AA publishes right on their web page (unlike other finicky rules on routing).
All you need is that you enter the US in EWR to stop in EWR. So in your example, you are allowed a stopover in EWR.
All you need is that you enter the US in EWR to stop in EWR. So in your example, you are allowed a stopover in EWR.
Jan 23, 2014, 8:40 am
#932
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Gateway stop is not a trick. It's specifically and clearly stated in the rules that AA publishes right on their web page (unlike other finicky rules on routing).
All you need is that you enter the US in EWR to stop in EWR. So in your example, you are allowed a stopover in EWR.
In HKG, you are only allowed a connection, not a stopover.
All you need is that you enter the US in EWR to stop in EWR. So in your example, you are allowed a stopover in EWR.
In HKG, you are only allowed a connection, not a stopover.
Jan 23, 2014, 9:24 am
#934
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When trying to get a free ticket using the North America gateway "trick" does the international part have to be non-stop?
In other words would the following be ok?
HAN > HKG (3 hour layover) > EWR (2 month layover) > MIA
Or would the layover in Hong Kong makes it not allowed?
In other words would the following be ok?
HAN > HKG (3 hour layover) > EWR (2 month layover) > MIA
Or would the layover in Hong Kong makes it not allowed?
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Jan 23, 2014, 9:42 am
#935
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Plat, Hyatt Platinum, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 286
Thanks for the information.
FWIW I put trick in quotes because I know it is legit but not many people know about it and it is a way to get a "free" trip to Hawaii.
Last time I used it I booked HNL > LAX > MIA (6 months layover) > CUZ for a cheaper amount of miles than it would have cost me to book HNL > MIA. I think using "trick" is fair game here.
FWIW I put trick in quotes because I know it is legit but not many people know about it and it is a way to get a "free" trip to Hawaii.
Last time I used it I booked HNL > LAX > MIA (6 months layover) > CUZ for a cheaper amount of miles than it would have cost me to book HNL > MIA. I think using "trick" is fair game here.
Jan 24, 2014, 9:36 am
#936
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,756
When trying to get a free ticket using the North America gateway "trick" does the international part have to be non-stop?
In other words would the following be ok?
HAN > HKG (3 hour layover) > EWR (2 month layover) > MIA
Or would the layover in Hong Kong makes it not allowed?
In other words would the following be ok?
HAN > HKG (3 hour layover) > EWR (2 month layover) > MIA
Or would the layover in Hong Kong makes it not allowed?
Jan 27, 2014, 8:40 pm
#937
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: LAX
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Posts: 296
Changing the Date of the Continued Flight after Stopover?
I am sure this has been addressed at some point.
Does AA permit you to change the continued travel dates during the stopover after the initial flights have commenced?
Example: January 20 - HNL - LAX - stopover - March 15 - LAX - LHR
Are you able to change the dates of the LAX - LHR after travel from HNL - LAX has commenced? Also, what if the date was changed from Economy Off-Peak to Regular Economy and required additional miles?
Thanks.
David
Does AA permit you to change the continued travel dates during the stopover after the initial flights have commenced?
Example: January 20 - HNL - LAX - stopover - March 15 - LAX - LHR
Are you able to change the dates of the LAX - LHR after travel from HNL - LAX has commenced? Also, what if the date was changed from Economy Off-Peak to Regular Economy and required additional miles?
Thanks.
David
Jan 27, 2014, 8:44 pm
#938
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I am sure this has been addressed at some point.
Does AA permit you to change the continued travel dates during the stopover after the initial flights have commenced?
Example: January 20 - HNL - LAX - stopover - March 15 - LAX - LHR
Are you able to change the dates of the LAX - LHR after travel from HNL - LAX has commenced? Also, what if the date was changed from Economy Off-Peak to Regular Economy and required additional miles?
Thanks.
David
Does AA permit you to change the continued travel dates during the stopover after the initial flights have commenced?
Example: January 20 - HNL - LAX - stopover - March 15 - LAX - LHR
Are you able to change the dates of the LAX - LHR after travel from HNL - LAX has commenced? Also, what if the date was changed from Economy Off-Peak to Regular Economy and required additional miles?
Thanks.
David
Jan 28, 2014, 11:13 am
#939
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: LAX
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I am sure this has been addressed at some point.
Does AA permit you to change the continued travel dates during the stopover after the initial flights have commenced?
Example: January 20 - HNL - LAX - stopover - March 15 - LAX - LHR
Are you able to change the dates of the LAX - LHR after travel from HNL - LAX has commenced? Also, what if the date was changed from Economy Off-Peak to Regular Economy and required additional miles?
Thanks.
David
Does AA permit you to change the continued travel dates during the stopover after the initial flights have commenced?
Example: January 20 - HNL - LAX - stopover - March 15 - LAX - LHR
Are you able to change the dates of the LAX - LHR after travel from HNL - LAX has commenced? Also, what if the date was changed from Economy Off-Peak to Regular Economy and required additional miles?
Thanks.
David
I also wonder if there is a limit to the amount of time of the stopover. I believe that one can book 330 day in advance. Is that the maximum between the first flight stopover and continuation flight? Also If I book the first flight 100 days in advance and the second segment 200 days after the first segment, can I later change the second segment another 100 days later?
Jan 28, 2014, 11:17 am
#940
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I also wonder if there is a limit to the amount of time of the stopover. I believe that one can book 330 day in advance. Is that the maximum between the first flight stopover and continuation flight? Also If I book the first flight 100 days in advance and the second segment 200 days after the first segment, can I later change the second segment another 100 days later?
On an AAdvantage award ticket, all travel must be completed within one year of original ticketing date, regardless of when travel on the award commences.
Originally Posted by go4bal
I am sure this has been addressed at some point.
Does AA permit you to change the continued travel dates during the stopover after the initial flights have commenced?
Example: January 20 - HNL - LAX - stopover - March 15 - LAX - LHR
Are you able to change the dates of the LAX - LHR after travel from HNL - LAX has commenced? Also, what if the date was changed from Economy Off-Peak to Regular Economy and required additional miles?
Thanks.
David
Does AA permit you to change the continued travel dates during the stopover after the initial flights have commenced?
Example: January 20 - HNL - LAX - stopover - March 15 - LAX - LHR
Are you able to change the dates of the LAX - LHR after travel from HNL - LAX has commenced? Also, what if the date was changed from Economy Off-Peak to Regular Economy and required additional miles?
Thanks.
David
I also wonder if there is a limit to the amount of time of the stopover. I believe that one can book 330 day in advance. Is that the maximum between the first flight stopover and continuation flight? Also If I book the first flight 100 days in advance and the second segment 200 days after the first segment, can I later change the second segment another 100 days later?
Jan 30, 2014, 12:40 pm
#941
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Programs: UA 1K, DL Platinum, BA Gold
Posts: 181
Does anyone know if I would be able to fly MNL-HKG-JFK (stopover) and then fly to SFO several months later? Basically I'm trying to use my free stopover at JFK and fly one way to either CUN, MIA or SFO. Preferrably SFO, but can do CUN or MIA as well. Not sure if this is over mpm or not.
Also, if I'm flying F, and F is not available for the JFK-SFO (or JFK-MIA/CUN), can I book a lower class of service and change later when it's available?
Also, if I'm flying F, and F is not available for the JFK-SFO (or JFK-MIA/CUN), can I book a lower class of service and change later when it's available?
Jan 30, 2014, 9:47 pm
#943
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Posts: 4,861
Does anyone know if I would be able to fly MNL-HKG-JFK (stopover) and then fly to SFO several months later? Basically I'm trying to use my free stopover at JFK and fly one way to either CUN, MIA or SFO. Preferrably SFO, but can do CUN or MIA as well. Not sure if this is over mpm or not.
CX does not publish a MNL -> CUN through fare.
Yes.
Feb 1, 2014, 1:10 pm
#944
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: PSP LAX OMA ORD
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AAdvantage FREE stopovers limited to hubs/mini-hubs?
Are they?
I want to get Europe-USA1-USA2 for 20K total and trying a non-hub city as "1" and always getting a 12.5K req to continue on to "2". But if I assign MIA or LAX as "1", then I get the wonderful "--" req.
I'm not an AA expert so this is all new to me still. Tips most welcome!
I want to get Europe-USA1-USA2 for 20K total and trying a non-hub city as "1" and always getting a 12.5K req to continue on to "2". But if I assign MIA or LAX as "1", then I get the wonderful "--" req.
I'm not an AA expert so this is all new to me still. Tips most welcome!
Feb 1, 2014, 1:43 pm
#945
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The key phrase is 'North American gateway'. Check out the awards sticky thread.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ld-awards.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ld-awards.html