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checkerboard Apr 3, 2020 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by chicago747 (Post 32260671)
Does anyone know how long it usually takes to get a flight credited from BA (on 125 stock)? I requested credit on the 26th and just wondering if it's a couple week process or I should call. I'm assuming everything will take longer due to current conditions but appreciate any recent data points.


Same question, but for BA flights (mainline & Comair) on 001 stock.

AAExecPlatFlier Apr 3, 2020 8:03 pm

This may sound crazy, but for your BA prime flights u have to go to BA.com and enter your BE #. And even crazier, for IB prime flights you have to go to BA.com also. And this whether you have an AA issued ticket or not and have put ur BE number into the reservation.


Originally Posted by checkerboard (Post 32261266)
Same question, but for BA flights (mainline & Comair) on 001 stock.


Markie Apr 3, 2020 9:47 pm


Originally Posted by AAExecPlatFlier (Post 32262191)
This may sound crazy, but for your BA prime flights u have to go to BA.com and enter your BE #. And even crazier, for IB prime flights you have to go to BA.com also. And this whether you have an AA issued ticket or not and have put ur BE number into the reservation.

Honestly, I do this every time and for about the past four months nothing credits without making a request via the web site.
The points post 2-4 weeks after my requests.

ft4lyf Apr 4, 2020 5:49 am

My BA flights (BA Stock tickets) did not post for a few days after the flight. Requested points credit via email. Was told it will take 5-8 weeks to post.
Now, it is 8 weeks. Emailed them again...but, no response (they are likely very busy with the global crisis).

milesforhire Apr 17, 2020 11:43 am


Originally Posted by ft4lyf (Post 32262873)
My BA flights (BA Stock tickets) did not post for a few days after the flight. Requested points credit via email. Was told it will take 5-8 weeks to post.
Now, it is 8 weeks. Emailed them again...but, no response (they are likely very busy with the global crisis).

Same. All of my BA flights in 2020 have failed to post.

Any word on expiring points being extended due to COVID-19?

ft4lyf Apr 17, 2020 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by milesforhire (Post 32301814)
Same. All of my BA flights in 2020 have failed to post.

Any word on expiring points being extended due to COVID-19?

My BA flight points have not yet posted.
The BusinessExtrAA team did reply saying the credit request is still under review.

They also said they have not made decisions about extending the expiry of points. I hope they extend the expiry.

brewdog11 Apr 23, 2020 9:51 am

Hello all,

Need to submit a request for some flights in late 2019, but I do not have the ticket numbers anymore (emails are deleted and PNRs have been expired). Has anyone had luck with calling AA to get ticket numbers, or is this information purged from their systems?

amm Apr 23, 2020 10:01 am


Originally Posted by brewdog11 (Post 32318245)
Hello all,

Need to submit a request for some flights in late 2019, but I do not have the ticket numbers anymore (emails are deleted and PNRs have been expired). Has anyone had luck with calling AA to get ticket numbers, or is this information purged from their systems?

Been a while since I had to do this, but IIRC you can get the ticket numbers by logging into your aadvantage account and looking at your flight history.

robertablake Apr 24, 2020 5:46 am


Originally Posted by Markie (Post 32262333)
Honestly, I do this every time and for about the past four months nothing credits without making a request via the web site.
The points post 2-4 weeks after my requests.

I would say half, or more than half, of our AA flights, on AA metal, are not posting automatically. My last request, over 4 weeks ago, still has not been processed.

txpenny May 8, 2020 11:45 am


Originally Posted by mvoight (Post 32260595)
it would be great if they would extend all points expiring this year

Agree with this.

I'm going to end the year with points expiring that I probably won't be able to use.

mvoight May 13, 2020 3:29 pm


Originally Posted by txpenny (Post 32359291)
Agree with this.

I'm going to end the year with points expiring that I probably won't be able to use.

Today I received an email indicating awards booked by May 31 can be redeposited
So, if an award is booked, canceled, and redeposited, would that extend the points?

lkar May 13, 2020 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by mvoight (Post 32372797)
Today I received an email indicating awards booked by May 31 can be redeposited
So, if an award is booked, canceled, and redeposited, would that extend the points?

I got the same email. I had some points that were due to expire last year so I redeemed for an upgrade that expires in 12/20. It is not clear to me whether I'm eligible for a redeposit and even if I am it's not clear what the status of the points would be. Not a huge issue -- I still have until December, but I'd obviously rather have nonexpired points if it is an option for me.

txpenny May 14, 2020 8:24 am

Still no extension for points expiry.

Markie May 15, 2020 9:49 pm

I returned a ticketed flight award and a BXP3 yesterday in a simple, 5 minute phone call without cost.

rj123456 May 16, 2020 1:47 am


Originally Posted by Markie (Post 32379411)
I returned a ticketed flight award and a BXP3 yesterday in a simple, 5 minute phone call without cost.

Since 90% of the content on this forum is complaints about American it's only fair to point out that my experience was excellent too.

The flight got cancelled and they called me 3 times (and left messages). Since the flight was at the end of the month I procrastinated in getting back to them as I was dreading wating on hold forever. They called me a fourth time offering me a re-routing. I asked if I could cancel the trip, the rep said "sure". A couple of days later 2000 points were credited back to the Business Extraa account with an expiration date of 31 DEC 2022. The entire call was about 2 minutes.

mvoight May 16, 2020 2:39 am


Originally Posted by rj123456 (Post 32379682)
Since 90% of the content on this forum is complaints about American it's only fair to point out that my experience was excellent too.

The flight got cancelled and they called me 3 times (and left messages). Since the flight was at the end of the month I procrastinated in getting back to them as I was dreading wating on hold forever. They called me a fourth time offering me a re-routing. I asked if I could cancel the trip, the rep said "sure". A couple of days later 2000 points were credited back to the Business Extraa account with an expiration date of 31 DEC 2022. The entire call was about 2 minutes.

I have never had an issue with getting a refund of miles, points, or dollars when the airline cancels a flight.
It would be nice of BE to extend the lifetime of the points which expire this year.

canadou Jun 26, 2020 9:43 pm

I have a JFK-LHR-CDG booked for July, with JFK-LHR on AA and LHR-CDG on BA metal BA code. I upgraded the JFK-LHR segment using a BXP3. Will I then get the business class checked bag allowance on both flights?

bedelman Jun 26, 2020 11:46 pm

When your JFK-LHR upgrade was processed, AA should have provided you with a new eticket confirmation email with a new Baggage Information section. Did you receive that? What does it say about your baggage allowance? Those statements are quite clear about scope -- for example, it might say JFKLHR 2 checked bags or JFKCDG 2 checked bags. If the latter, it plainly encompasses your travel all the way to CDG.

As a practical matter, if you are on one ticket and one PNR, with a connection (not stopover, no overnight) in LHR, you'll check your bags at JFK all the way to CDG. So the JFK-LHR baggage allowance will apply.

canadou Jun 27, 2020 9:58 am

Thanks for your reply bedelman. I actually called AA last night to confirm and that's exactly what they told me, that the ticket should have been reissued and that they thought it was in progress. I have been asked to call Meeting Services back this morning to see if there is any pending action on my end. They told me that indeed the bag allowance should apply on the whole JFKLHRCDG and that's probably what I'll see on the new ticket. They also confirmed that practically speaking I will check my bags all the way through and that the JFK-LHR allowance should then apply.

bedelman Jun 27, 2020 11:31 pm

When your eticket reissues and you receive an eticket confirmation email, you might double-check its baggage allowance and even post it here for others in a similar situation. Incidentally, I have seen some situations in which AA fails to provide a baggage allowance in an eticket confirmation email, both in new tickets and in reissues. That's specifically prohibited by both DOT rules and an enforcement order resulting from my prior administrative complaint against AA. If that issue arises here, I would be interested in including it in my growing documentation of further such violations by AA.

canadou Jun 28, 2020 12:29 am

I eventually called again this morning as advised by the AA rep yesterday, and that other person told me they wouldn't re-ticket after a Business Extra upgrade. Checked my inbox just in case and nothing came in today neither. Not really sure what to do here, don't quite like when multiple reps contradict each other, but was also told I had nothing more to do on my end so...

To your point I actually found pretty disturbing that the baggage allowance was not clearly displayed next to each flight in the confirmation email, or at least in the upper part somewhere. It is only after having dug a bit in the bottom of the email that I eventually found, in a light gray colored fare rules like paragraph, that the allowance was one bag (that was before the upgrade)

01 Piece/ American Airlines /EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS
Was kind of surprised that they would bury that info so deep in the conditions. I actually even had to click 'display more' on Gmail to get to that point of the email. I guess it's probably not violating anything since it is here somewhere, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear that some unfamiliar people got mixed-up because of that. I have the overhaul feeling that AA's information system has been getting pretty old lately.

bedelman Jun 28, 2020 2:00 am

Canadou, it sounds like your eticket hasn't been reissued and that's why your ticket still specifies the coach baggage allowance. I agree that AA may not reticket for a Businessextraa upgrade -- that has been my experience too. No reticket == no new baggage allowance in confirmation email.

You could call AA and ask what your baggage allowance is. Be sure your question is precisely worded and covers your entire journey JFK-LHR-CDG. Record the call, as permitted by AA's telephone system stating "this call may be recorded." If AA or BA charge you, use the recording to demand a refund.

As to the email placement of baggage information: "Display more" is a Gmail decision, hard for AA to influence one way or the other. Fine print, yes, and could & should be explained more clearly and frankly more concisely. I do not blame AA for Gmail making this even more difficult to show. Then again, if I worked for AA in IT, I would redesign the email confirmations so they did not trigger Display More truncation. Confident that I could do so including with attention to detail, brevity, duplication, and format. Alas, no one at AA seems to view this as a priority.

canadou Jun 29, 2020 8:03 pm

I think a new confirmation email would be the least they could do, but yes if they don't reissue the ticket I guess I'll just see at the airport and talk my way through this if necessary. Your are bringing up a good point, might record that call just in case. I wonder what is the 'official' policy on bags allowance when a flight is being upgraded, let's say I had a more complex itinerary with layovers or airport changes thus requiring me to re-check my bags, curious to know what's the official response in that case.

Got some interesting development here, LHRCDG has now been canceled, so I could take the next LHRCDG at the cost of a 7hours layover in LHR, or I could go through DFW and get to Paris at 9am. Unfortunately, no C inventory on DFWCDG. Now, the naive side of me thought AA would have been okay moving me to the DFWCDG and honor the upgrade since it was confirmed in the first place. But that unfortunately didn't happen. Also wonder what is the policy in case of cancelation/schedule changes for an upgraded flight...

mvoight Aug 22, 2020 2:35 am


Originally Posted by txpenny (Post 32359291)
Agree with this.

I'm going to end the year with points expiring that I probably won't be able to use.

Interesting discovery. I thought about upgrade awards, so I order 3 of them. I then changed my mind because I didn't want to be tied to the fare classes, and am just considering getting a ticket for someone using the points. A few weeks ago I had received an email saying upgrades, etc (not flights) can be redeposited by calling. Additionally, when I ordered I found out there was a 5 day period when you can normally return them without a fee. I just did that online and quickly the points were returned with the new expiration date. 12/31/22

Alex_I Aug 22, 2020 11:47 am


Originally Posted by mvoight (Post 32621725)
Additionally, when I ordered I found out there was a 5 day period when you can normally return them without a fee. I just did that online and quickly the points were returned with the new expiration date. 12/31/22

- we had to cancel BisenessExtrAA award flights at the last moment in July. The tickets were purchased with the certicates issued back in Dec 2019. As the result, the point were returned to the account with Dec 2022 expiration date.

shihyin Aug 22, 2020 1:05 pm

[QUOTE=mvoight;32621725 Additionally, when I ordered I found out there was a 5 day period when you can normally return them without a fee.[/QUOTE]

Decided to try that myself. Ordered a free flight cert and return immediately. Indeed all the points now have Dec 2022 expiration date. The return timeline can be found on the return award page after you made an award:

Need to return an award?

Flight and upgrade certificates can be returned online within 5 calendar days* of redemption without a fee. AAdvantage Gold® status and Admirals Club® memberships can be returned online before midnight on the same day of redemption without a fee.

After that, reinstatement fees apply: $150 USD for the first certificate, status, or membership and $25 for each additional, within the same transaction.

dannyboy888 Sep 9, 2020 4:16 pm

[QUOTE=shihyin;32622708]Decided to try that myself. Ordered a free flight cert and return immediately. Indeed all the points now have Dec 2022 expiration date. The return timeline can be found on the return award page after you made an award:

Thank you for the tip. I had 1,000 points expiring in 3 months and I redeemed for a BXP1 upgrade for 650 points. I then returned it and it moved the expiration to 2022. I then did it again and that pushed the remaining points into 2022. So now all my points expire 2022. It was so easy since you can redeem and return online. Took 2 minutes total.


platbrownguy Sep 9, 2020 7:38 pm

Given the at least temporary demise of Flagship First (which I used to redeem BXP1s for), I decided to cancel my Citi Exec card and just use Business Extra points for an Admirals Club membership. Not the best use of points, maybe, but at least a true $ savings during a time when I don't really have much use for these points.

Centurion Sep 9, 2020 8:50 pm

Great Tip

Originally Posted by mvoight (Post 32621725)
Interesting discovery. I thought about upgrade awards, so I order 3 of them. I then changed my mind because I didn't want to be tied to the fare classes, and am just considering getting a ticket for someone using the points. A few weeks ago I had received an email saying upgrades, etc (not flights) can be redeposited by calling. Additionally, when I ordered I found out there was a 5 day period when you can normally return them without a fee. I just did that online and quickly the points were returned with the new expiration date. 12/31/22


rj123456 Sep 10, 2020 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by Centurion (Post 32664621)
Great Tip

Thank you Centurion.

In his old age, Doug Parker, as a ward of the People, has become so customer friendly.
In and out in 2 minutes (1.5 of which was to save screen shots).
Now if only Marriott made it this easy.

beachfan Sep 12, 2020 11:17 am

[QUOTE=dannyboy888;32664168]

Originally Posted by shihyin (Post 32622708)
Decided to try that myself. Ordered a free flight cert and return immediately. Indeed all the points now have Dec 2022 expiration date. The return timeline can be found on the return award page after you made an award:

Thank you for the tip. I had 1,000 points expiring in 3 months and I redeemed for a BXP1 upgrade for 650 points. I then returned it and it moved the expiration to 2022. I then did it again and that pushed the remaining points into 2022. So now all my points expire 2022. It was so easy since you can redeem and return online. Took 2 minutes total.


great tip!



ETA: I can confirm it works immediately, ie., book, and then cancel within the same session. Easiest extension I've done, first on my account and then my wife's , on both upgrade and free ticket awards. Having these for another two years is great.

PowerLu Sep 23, 2020 10:36 am

[QUOTE=beachfan;32670551]

Originally Posted by dannyboy888 (Post 32664168)

ETA: I can confirm it works immediately, ie., book, and then cancel within the same session. Easiest extension I've done, first on my account and then my wife's , on both upgrade and free ticket awards. Having these for another two years is great.

Same, genius!

txpenny Sep 23, 2020 3:17 pm

[QUOTE=LuizMiranda;32695425]

Originally Posted by beachfan (Post 32670551)

Same, genius!

I have 19K points expiring at the end of the year. Are you saying all I have to do is book an international Biz Class trip, then cancel shortly after and I will basically extend 18K points for a year without fee?

mvoight Sep 24, 2020 9:43 am

[QUOTE=txpenny;32696107]

Originally Posted by LuizMiranda (Post 32695425)

I have 19K points expiring at the end of the year. Are you saying all I have to do is book an international Biz Class trip, then cancel shortly after and I will basically extend 18K points for a year without fee?

In Today's email, just 20 minutes ago
"To provide members with more flexibility, Business Extra points set to expire in 2020 will now expire on December 31, 2021."
FINALLY..............

robertablake Sep 24, 2020 10:18 am

[QUOTE=mvoight;32697772]

Originally Posted by txpenny (Post 32696107)

In Today's email, just 20 minutes ago
"To provide members with more flexibility, Business Extra points set to expire in 2020 will now expire on December 31, 2021."
FINALLY..............

Received this good news email as well this morning. I have been waiting for AA to do this, good for them.

golfmad Sep 24, 2020 10:26 am

Very welcome news indeed.

txpenny Sep 24, 2020 11:47 am

Timing is everything!

chicago747 Sep 25, 2020 9:28 pm

Ironic as I just got a reply from an inquiry two days ago saying they would NOT extend 2020 pts. So I did what flyertalk suggested. I redeemed for 10 bxp1s and immediately redeposited them. We'll use them at some point. Just annoyed me to have to ask...get denied...then get approved via common sense/math.

KDCAflyer Oct 9, 2020 4:11 pm

Just signed my small business up for Business Extra, after getting a promo email that included this language:

"As an added bonus, earn 650 Business Extra points (enough for a one-way upgrade1) when you enroll by October 31, 2020 with code 20OCTand fly within 90 days."

Seems like good timing, since I'm transitioning over from Delta.

Only question I have is whether a one-way flight will satisfy. I don't see any language about it needing to be a round trip:

"This offer is available only to recipients of the email sent by American Airlines on October 9, 2020, and is valid through October 31, 2020. To earn the reward, an eligible company must enroll in the program using Referral Code "20OCT" between October 9, 2020 and October 31, 2020, and fly within 90 days of enrolling using their newly created Business Extra number. If the requirements are met, 650 Business Extra points will be deposited into the member's account within six weeks. This offer is non-transferable. Void where prohibited."

txrus Oct 9, 2020 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by KDCAflyer (Post 32736134)
Just signed my small business up for Business Extra, after getting a promo email that included this language:

"As an added bonus, earn 650 Business Extra points (enough for a one-way upgrade1) when you enroll by October 31, 2020 with code 20OCTand fly within 90 days."

Seems like good timing, since I'm transitioning over from Delta.

Only question I have is whether a one-way flight will satisfy. I don't see any language about it needing to be a round trip:

"This offer is available only to recipients of the email sent by American Airlines on October 9, 2020, and is valid through October 31, 2020. To earn the reward, an eligible company must enroll in the program using Referral Code "20OCT" between October 9, 2020 and October 31, 2020, and fly within 90 days of enrolling using their newly created Business Extra number. If the requirements are met, 650 Business Extra points will be deposited into the member's account within six weeks. This offer is non-transferable. Void where prohibited."

The BXP1's are good for 1 segment in 1 direction.

When, & that's a big one, there is availability AA is willing to release for those upgrades.

Don't hold your breath waiting-'upgrade' is a dirty, 4-letter word, to Discount Dougie.


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