Pretty sure this violates AAdvantage T&C's. just tell your bosses or whomever is asking it could kill your entire company's travel program if you did it, but the company could certainly buy an AA gift card with cash and then donate that for charity.

Actually got a response from Business Extra that said that it was perfectly fine to donate the vouchers to charity. I had sent a similar question to Delta Skybonus, which did come back and say that gifting the flight awards would violate the T&Cs.

That's great to hear.

Save. That. Response.

What would a BE award have to do with AAdvantage T&Cs?
2 different programs, aren't they?

The last two BXP1 upgrades I had required check-in at the airport. Could not check in online. The certs were issued after they transitioned to online bookings. Initially I thought it might be becuase my upgrade was still a paper cert, but it wasn't. Maybe it is a holdover of the old "sticker system"?

I currently have two reservations for next month with BXP1s (a JFK-LAX from J to F, and an OGG-DFW from Y to J), and both have the TOD upgrade option (but both are >$700 in my case). I'm not worried about it. I've used 20k BE points worth of BXP1s in the past couple years (not all on myself) and the ticket never goes through the same reissuing process as normal AA ticket changes do. I used to have trouble at the airport if there was IRROPS and the paper certificate had not been collected yet, etc., but now with the electronic vouchers I haven't had any trouble at all.

I appreciate the data points Fueldude and Platbrownguy. With AA I always assume the worst so good to know it should work out.

pardon me
Business ExtrAA terms & conditions.
the ones located here when you log in
that say "Program Awards, or tickets that (1) were sold, bartered, or transferred for cash or other consideration; or (2) were obtained by violating any Program Rules, are void, and may result in the Program Award or ticket being confiscated, the passenger being denied boarding, and forfeiture of Member's Program benefits, including accumulated Points and other Program Awards, as well as cancellation of Member's participation in the Program. " and a bunch of other stuff

I'd say buying a raffle ticket to win donated AA tickets from Biz Extraa could be "consideration", but hey, i'm no lawyer. Try it if you want, but I agree, I'd defintely save that letter in case someone else ever decides you violated their T&Cs, which pretty much look exactly like AAdvantage T&Cs' by the way

So the wife and I booked JFK-LAX in revenue business class (booking class I). From my research it appears as though to upgrade to F we just need two A seats, which is currently the case. However, when I go to the Business Extra site, enter my name and PNR details I get:

"Your reservation type is not eligible for Business Extra upgrades"

:confused:

I have two BXP1s left from when I redeemed for four earlier in the year and they're still valid. I see others in the thread report this message but not related to this kind of an issue. Any ideas? thanks!

You can only upgrade reservations online with one traveller in the PNR. You will have to split the booking into two PNRs. Better to just call in and have meeting services do all of this.

I'm curious whether it's possible to "reverse" (un-apply) a BXP1 upgrade, given that there's no re-ticketing involved?

Apologies if this is upthread (scrolled the last few pages and didn’t see anything). This feels like a dumb question, but tickets booked with BE points - a BXTD award to be specific - don’t accrue EQDs/EQMs or count towards million miler status correct?

Nope, these are pretty much the same as regular award tickets in that sense.

Thanks! ^ Easily sorted in a few minutes by phone.

Another data point - I just applied a BXP1. Meeting Services agent told me ticket won't re-issue. So, once again, I'll have to fight for the re-issue or face an airport agent who is likely to get this wrong.

Has anyone had a heck of a time trying to find Plan Ahead space to anywhere in Asia? I have two to use and have checked almost every date in November, December and January and can't find a single seat using their calendar. Surely, there is at least one biz class seat for Plan Ahead available on at least one flight? What's the catch...is there a problem when searching from gateway to AA Asian destination where the calendar does not share all availability?

Upgrade priority for EXP's: SWU > BXP > $ + Miles > Complimentary EXP upgrades
Upgrade priority for those inheriting EXP status: SWU > BXP > $ + Miles > 500-mile stickers

Confirmed this today with Meeting Services and EXP Desk.

Yes, you can do that.

Only for domestic upgrades. INTL hierarchy is different... whereas SWU = BXP3 = miles + $

Can anyone confirm this is accurate? Has not been this way in the past. Used to be that SWU, BXP, Miles were lumped all together and comp/sticker upgrades came behind. Then it changed to SWU=Miles, then comp/sticker, then BXP. This would be yet another new change if accurate. Btw, I have found agents generally don’t know what they’re talking about and have heard a wide range of “claims” as to how the ordering works.

This...especially considering the above came from a Meeting Services rep...

Can anyone here explain the difference between "BusinessExtraa" (businessextra.com) and "AA for Business" (business.aa.com)? I just had a (scheduled) gotomeeting call (for an "administrative demo", which I thought was to introduce me to a new and better program) - but came away befuddled. Has anyone successfully used their tool? Are they ("ITS") hired by AA, or vouched for by AA, or are they third-party enablers/profiteers of some sort? Is there any value to what they provide? Any downsides to using the site?
I've looked in the forum but find no answers there...

Business Extra is the program where you register your business and then accrue points for travel by all of your company's employees. Its website is where you can manage the account, request mileage credit, and redeem points for various Business Extra certificates, Gold status, or Admiral's Club memberships. The AA for Business website is what you may use to redeem Business Extra certificates for tickets or upgrades instead of calling Meeting Services. You can also use that website to cancel a certificate and return the points to your account if within five days of it being redeemed. Otherwise you need to call Meeting Services and pay a $150 reinstatement fee.

Didn't realize redeemed certificates can be returned. I have 1800 BE points expiring at the end of December. If I redeem for an award (say a coach return North America) and then return it, will the points no longer expire? (I doubt they would, but just asking.)

The points will be reinstated with the original expiration date. You'll pay $150 minimum for the pleasure of returning the award.

That is certainly not my experience, whenever I have cancelled an award the returned points always have a new expiration. YMMV I guess. Additionally you don't pay the fee if you cancel the award within 5 days.

I had 12k points expiring this year, so last week I claimed a 25k AAnytime award, then cancelled it a few mins later. Everything done online, no fee, points returned, and I no longer have any expiring this year.

Based upon your experience, did you want to correct the Wiki for this thread under the category "Returning Unused Awards? As of now, the Wiki states that when unused rewards are returned after five days of issue, the points are reinstated with the original expiration date.

I changed the Wiki awhile back when I received an email from BusinessExtra indicating that the $150 reinstatement fee applies to all Business Extra customers regardless of their status with the airline.

EXP's don't pay the $150, correct?
And, I doubt the original date is kept, as that would make you get no refund if you canceled a flight passed the date the points would have expired.

The email I received from Business Extra Customer Service stated that everyone (regardless of airline status) pays the $150 fee if the award is cancelled outside the 5-day window.

Hi all. This thread has been very helpful and I have been able to use BXP1s with success, so thank you all. However, I am still puzzled by the inconsistencies in earning BE points. About 1/3 of all of our flights are disqualified from earning any points due to being "discounted." Since BE points are earned based solely on $ spent, I cannot figure out why some earn zero points. Doesn't seem to correlate with price or class (none are basic economy or companion fares). Some just seem to be disqualified at random. Any ideas?

Are these discounted due to an award code or booked through an employer or their travel agency?
From personal experience, when I used to use discount codes, those were not eligible, and most recently my first trip for my current employer was also rejected.
I suspect it was due to a discount as my wife was on the same flights and the company booking was a bit less, even the the booking class letter was the same.

That could be the answer. Will have to review those tickets. Seems odd that they would not just give 1 point per $5 spent rather than round down to zero.

BXP3 From PE (P) to J?
 

Sorry if it's been covered.
I have a ticketed booking R/T from DFW to HKG.
Outbound segment booked in Economy S Class - Used an SWU to upgrade to available C Inventory as S Class not eligible for BXP3
Return segment is currently booked in Premium Economy (P Class Fare) - Can I use a BXP3 to Upgrade from PE to J if C class becomes available?

Yes.

Does anyone have issues with flights posting Business Extra points? I had not been paying close attention to points posting until recently. My bad for trusting the system works.

After a detail review of flights, I realized some flights never automatically posted point. I submitted 5 flights for Flight Credit Request and received those points. But, we have a significant number of flights over a year old where we did not automatically received the credit and AA won't research and post credits missed on flights over a year old - a live and learn situation for me. Just wondering if anyone else has issues with credits auto posting?

My org has had plenty of non-posting flights, although none the past 2 years. I think the newer system of 3-4 day posting works better (instead of the old 20th of the month posting method).

When you do the request for credit after it doesn't post, do you need to put in every segment of the ticket or can you just enter the first and they do the whole ticketed itinerary

They do all segments on the ticket number.

Quick question

I'm booked AGP-MAD-JFK-LAX on an American issued ticket

I got ahold of one BXP1 certificate

AA is saying that I can't use a BXP1 to upgrade the single leg JFK-LAX since it's an international iternarary I'd need a BXP3. Is this right?

I don't need to upgrade the international leg (also don't have the certificate)

Is this a hang up and call again scenario, or is this somehow truly how it works? Really hoping to not play upgrade roulette at the gate. I'm 1 for 1 on this route with free upgrades, but I got lucky.

What a garbage answer, many of these Meeting Services reps can be totally clueless. Of course you can use your BXP1 on the JFK-LAX segment, a BXP3 wouldn't even be valid, HUCA.