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Originally Posted by Drwaz99
(Post 35787232)
Sounds like you might have been searching under "Flight Availability" and not "Awards and Upgrades" and found revenue C space and not upgrade C space.
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Originally Posted by WannaTheater
(Post 35787287)
How does one get this information?
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Originally Posted by WannaTheater
(Post 35787287)
How does one get this information?
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Data point: my wife is Gold. Kid is non-status. They cleared PHL-DFW tomorrow at about 27 hours out (essentially at the 24 hour mark before their regional flight connecting into PHL, which will not clear). Good enough to let them choose their meals in advance, even. It helps that it's a Saturday afternoon, but still great that they both got F for the price of BE. I'm on BOS-DFW for Sunday and haven't cleared yet as EXP but hoping to. (I rolled the dice on these leisure flights instead of paying for it.)
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Quick reality check needed: Mrs ConstellationClass (Exec Plat) and I (nothing) are flying DCA-JFK-LHR and return early next year (veeerrrrry low season… JFK-LHR is down to just two round trips each day on AA metal, yes I know BA has numerous flights as well, that’s not the point). We confirmed upgrades to C on the outbound using SWUs (huzzah! A first time for everything). For the return, no C upgrades are available for now.
Just for grins, I called AA to ask about buying an upgrade for the return: $4,XXX per person. No thanks. What about a mileage upgrade? The agent said that upgrades to business can be waitlisted for 57,500 miles per passenger with no cash copay, but 25,000-mile-and-$350-copay upgrades are unavailable “because that’s domestic and this is international.” Not how I’m reading the award chart, but… should I HUACA or am I unclear on the process? Thanks. |
Originally Posted by platbrownguy
(Post 35788295)
Data point: my wife is Gold. Kid is non-status. They cleared PHL-DFW tomorrow at about 27 hours out (essentially at the 24 hour mark before their regional flight connecting into PHL, which will not clear). Good enough to let them choose their meals in advance, even. It helps that it's a Saturday afternoon, but still great that they both got F for the price of BE. I'm on BOS-DFW for Sunday and haven't cleared yet as EXP but hoping to. (I rolled the dice on these leisure flights instead of paying for it.)
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Originally Posted by safari ari
(Post 35789710)
I truly wonder if AA has some algorithm that if flying to a Hub they hold upgrades until around T-27, as I've experienced this more and more on empty flights, and even based on your above data points. But when flying the reverse from a Hub to an outstation, getting upgraded at the window opening is more the norm.
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Originally Posted by ConstellationClass
(Post 35789337)
Quick reality check needed: Mrs ConstellationClass (Exec Plat) and I (nothing) are flying DCA-JFK-LHR and return early next year (veeerrrrry low season… JFK-LHR is down to just two round trips each day on AA metal, yes I know BA has numerous flights as well, that’s not the point). We confirmed upgrades to C on the outbound using SWUs (huzzah! A first time for everything). For the return, no C upgrades are available for now.
Just for grins, I called AA to ask about buying an upgrade for the return: $4,XXX per person. No thanks. What about a mileage upgrade? The agent said that upgrades to business can be waitlisted for 57,500 miles per passenger with no cash copay, but 25,000-mile-and-$350-copay upgrades are unavailable “because that’s domestic and this is international.” Not how I’m reading the award chart, but… should I HUACA or am I unclear on the process? Thanks. But Miles/Copay upgrades come from the same inventory as SWUs. There has to be C upgrade space available for them to clear. If you have SWUs to use, there's no advantage to doing a miles/copay. |
Well, finally missed an SWU. Just the 3rd I've missed in 10 years of EXP.
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Originally Posted by Stripe
(Post 35781670)
Probably pretty good but it will be much closer to departure. Unless it's a 787-8, where there are only 20 seats in J, 20 open seats is generally not enough for them to release upgrades 2 weeks out, at least in my experience. A lot of business class gets sold in that time, although not as much as pre-Covid. You can look at the number of occupied orange seats in Y, as those are your competition. And if you do get an EF alert you should call in. Eventually AA will match up the C inventory with upgrade requests but it is not instant.
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Originally Posted by Jean-Baptiste Legrand
(Post 35797774)
According to an AA phone rep I spoke with yesterday, they are apparently waiting until the day before to release C inventory this month due to "holiday season" ... It appears to make sense, because EF now suddenly shows 6 C seats available for tomorrow's AA 281. I checked my own flight and the number of unassigned J-cabin seats is now up to 22 from 20 (on a 787-9). I have my fingers crossed...
If space isn't released before then you will 100% see it open up about 24-36 hrs. prior, it's been this way for years. My own personal theory is that there's revenue analyst(s) in Dallas whose job duties every morning when they first log on include a manual review of business space on the next day's long haul flights and the release of C space. That is why if I'm flying TATL from the US to Europe on say Thursday night, I watch EF like a hawk around 8-9am Wednesday, as that is when things typically open up. |
DCA-PIT and PIT-DCA both cleared at T-100.
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Some recent ones, EXP with probably ~400k LPs. All AA flights.
DFW-PHL: #3 on list, 2 cleared LAX-PHL on 787 after Thanksgiving: #1 of >50, 1 cleared LAS-LAX around F1: #1 on list, 2 cleared PHL-TPA: cleared 100 hr TPA-PHL: #2 on list, 1 cleared after boarding (was CK) PHL-CDG: SWU cleared 1 month out at booking; cabin seemed to get filled with ~5 nonrevs LHR-LAX (2x): SWUs cleared 1 month out and 3 months out at booking, respectively; also seem nonrev heavy LAX-LHR: SWU cleared 3 months out at booking PHL-LIS: SWU cleared at ~30 hours, the ridiculous thing is the flight was nearly empty in J, was showing I7 for weeks, and still had 10 empty seats when I finally did clear Also had good success with all my BA LHR-EUR flights clearing. |
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