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HELP DESK: Lounge Access, Access Rules. Will I Have Lounge Access? (2020)
Please read this wiki carefully; some fine nuances exist.

Admirals Club lounges have reopened from the Covid closures, but not all Clubs have reopened, and hours have changed.
Link to aa.com Admirals Club, Flagship Lounge Access rules.
Also see Admirals Club rates increasing, new restrictions: 2019


PLEASE DO NOT ALTER THE CONTENT OF THIS MODERATOR NOTE

The Lounge Access Help Desk

To assist members with questions about Lounge Access Rules that they have not been able to answer on their own using the above resources, the AA Moderator team has decided to institute this thread, the third in a series of "Help Desk" threads. N.B.: If you have questions about physical access to a specific lounge (e.g., airside vs. landside, different terminal, etc.), please search for and post to the appropriate specific thread for that lounge.

New threads on this topic will be merged into this one and bumped by the moderators as necessary. As such, we do not expect that this thread will develop into a searchable database, but that it will nonetheless provide a valuable resource to members. As well, we may shed / pare down posts from time to time to a trailing thread or similar device.

Our goal is to provide a place where members can feel welcome to post such questions and expect helpful, accurate responses. In this way, we hope to accommodate the needs and desires of both new and veteran members - those who aren't sure they are interpreting the available resources correctly can ask for help without fear of snarky-appearing responses; those who do not wish to participate in such threads are invited and, indeed, encouraged, to ignore this thread.

Please be forewarned: This thread will be subject to heavy moderation. Posts that are incorrect will be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST answers unless you are sure your answer is complete and correct. Posts that are unhelpful or off-topic will also be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST unless you can be friendly, helpful, concise, and salient.

Finally, a few guidelines for members posting queries to this thread:
  • Please DO make an effort to review the listed resources before posting here.
  • Please DO try to give as much information as possible, including your entire itinerary, with carrier for each segment and codeshares and stopovers clearly designated, your class of service and fare class purchased, whether or not you have Admirals Club or Qantas Club membership, a Citi AAdvantage Executive card (which includes full Admirals Club membership), and the number of guests and your family relationship with them, if any.
  • Please DO understand it could take some time for answers (especially on holidays and weekends.)
  • Please DO thank helpful members volunteering to reply to your questions.
Note: Members interested in arranging AA lounge meet-ups or offer guesting in should use this thread: Admirals Club / Flagship Lounge Meet Up & Guest Offer (master thread)

Also see the future changes in lounges and access: Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge Changes, Renovations & Additions

Sincerely,
The American Airlines AAdvantage forum Moderator Team
(Help Desk established by dstan
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Help Desk: Lounge Access Rules / Will I Have Lounge Access?
Lounge Access can be obtained in a number of ways during travel on AA and its oneworld partner airlines. These include purchasing an Admirals Club one day pass, or via Citi AAdvantage Executive MasterCard (including, as of Dec 2015, authorized Executive card users), reciprocity agreements with other airlines, traveling on certain transcon flights in F or J, or traveling internationally with Platinum or Platinum Pro (oneworld Sapphire) or Concierge Key or Executive Platinum (oneworld Emerald) status or in F or J classes of service - except if flying solely within North America destinations other than MEX as AAdvantage elite or AA elite in Business class. The last is often the greatest source of confusion, despite lounge access rules being described clearly on aa.com.

Admirals Club members paid or Executive primary cardholder members) are entitled guests as follows:

Up to two guests or household members (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under the age of 18) may accompany the member.

* Note that AA no longer offers a 30-day membership as of July 25 2016.

Executive card subsidiary cardholders have admission as well.

PLT and PPRO members are eligible for access to all oneworld Business Class lounges, now including Flagship Lounges, including Admirals Clubs; EXP and CK members are also eligible for access to nearly all oneworld First Class lounges, including Flagship Lounges.

For AA status-based access (PLT, PPRO, EXP, Concierge Key),* passengers must: (1) be traveling on an international itinerary (Europe, Asia, Central and South America, and Mexico City, excluding the Caribbean and other destinations in North America (other than on certain three class transcontinental flights) including other destinations in Mexico, and (2) have an onward flight on a oneworld airline marketed and operated flight on the same day.

Lounges operated by third parties or premium lounges operating outside of oneworld rules (e.g. BA Concorde Room, Qatar Al Safwa or Al Mourjan lounges, AA Flagship First Dining) may be excluded, and all may may refuse admittance if they claim they are crowded. There are other exceptions.

*Non-AA oneworld Sapphire and Emerald elites are not subject to rule #1 above.

Emerald / EP on CX JFK-YVR are not subject to AA limitations and are issued Flagship Lounge invitations for use at JFK.

The following exceptions apply: (in part; for the entire list, see here)

American Airlines and Qantas paid programmes
American Airlines and Qantas offer programmes enabling customers to pay to gain access to their lounges. These programmes are not part of the oneworld agreement, and members of these programmes are not entitled to access lounges under the oneworld agreement.

American Airlines AAdvantage member North American flights
American Airlines Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligble for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S, Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Carribean. For more information, visit, http://aa.com/i18n/travelInformation...miralsClub.jsp

Traveling Flagship Business Transcontinentalalso gives you lounge access and other amenities:
Los Angeles (LAX) - New York (JFK)
San Francisco (SFO) - JFK
LAX - Boston (BOS) traveling on A321T aircraft only
LAX - Miami (MIA) traveling on B777-300 aircraft only (through October 26, 2019)

The following exceptions apply:

First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and vice-versa are eligible for lounge access. oneworld lounge access page - link

On February 17 2016, AA announced an addition to the above. As stated on their Reimagining our lounges page, in the Flagship Lounges section, "Starting in 2017, lounge access will be extended to customers booked in Business and First Class on A321T, Trans-Atlantic, Trans-Pacific and deep South American flights."

Important Note: Though this announcement excluded Northern South America and Central America, those travelling to or from those destinations in J/F or who hold OWE or OWS, including AA elites, do indeed have access to the Flagship Lounge. See the link below for Flagship Lounge access rules for details.

In the Flagship Dining subsection, they state:
Beginning in early 2017, the Flagship Dining experience will be available in select cities with 3-class service:
● Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) (2019)
● New York (JFK)
● Miami (MIA)
● Los Angeles (LAX)

First Class customers on Americans three class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive access to Flagship Dining.

All Admirals Club visitors receive free Wi-Fi access at Admirals Clubs (password is available at front desk and throughout the Club on signs), some non-alcoholic and "well" (lower price tier) alcoholic beverages, counter snacks and offered food items; free computer terminals are available for all passengers, and many Clubs have Business Centers and tethered Samsung Galaxy tablets in seating areas. Passengers accessing Admirals Clubs based on status or class of service on international travel are entitled to free drinks coupons usable for higher-tier non-alcoholic and alcoholic beverages and bottles of water.

Flagship Lounges (JFK, LAX, LHR and ORD) offer extended beverages and upscale snack services as well. See below for link.

NOTE: Some Lounges and Clubs are undergoing refurbishment.

Citi Prestige MasterCard holder Admirals Club access ended July 23, 2017.

American Express Platinum cardholder Admirals Club access ended 21 March 2014.

NOTE: It has been verified more airports are allowing multiple terminal access on one's day of departure. LAX has been one since mid-2014.

Admirals Club access is granted the day of flight for statusholders flyingoneworld and those flying F or J, or the following day at the first port of arrival if flying overnight and arriving by 0600.

Airports requiring Lounge users have a same day departure boarding pass include BOG, CCS, CDG, GIG, GRU, LHR, MEX, NRT, SCL, YYZ.

N.B. Qantas Lounges and Clubs require Smart Casual (sic) dress as of May 2015; those not meeting the standard may be turned away. They also require Admirals Club members be traveling on a departing AA marketed flight, otherbthan the LAX / TBIT lounge.

Please see the following resources for full details on Lounge Access Rules: (and see below)
● AA.com: Lounge Access Rules
● AA.com: American Airlines Flagship Lounge Access Rules

Beginning later in 2017: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ge-updates.jsp opens Flagship access to many more pax.
● AA.com: Reimaging our lounges
● AA.com: Admirals Club Membership Guide in a downloadable PDF format.
● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool
● Wiki: Lounges
● FT: American Airlines LOUNGE DASHBOARD

For various threads on membership, access by status, transcon service, class of service, Flagship lounge access, lounges directory with links to specific lounge threads, Club member access to partner lounges, recipripocity agreements, etc.
Admirals Club members - Qantas Club members
Link-->Guide to Admirals Club Members + Reciprocal Qantas Club Access
Note: Qantas Club access for Admirals Club members has CHANGED over time

As an Admirals Club annual, lifetime member, Citi / AAdvantage Executive Card primary cardholder, or AirPass member with Admirals Club privileges, your Qantas Club domestic access has changed over time:
Select Qantas Clubs when departing on the same day on a Qantas operated flight or an American marketed flight operated by Qantas. NOTE: This is different than oneworld access rules and pertains only to Admirals Club members.

Also note Qantas will (at 2016) begin selling single admission starting at $49, but these at least initially will be restricted to QF Bronze or Silver members and only available during non-peak times. At this time, AA flyers are ineligible. Link to 2016 Australian Business Traveller article.[Edit may not be accurate at 04 Jan 2023]

Previously, members could access Qantas domestic lounges with an Admirals Club card without having purchased the AA codeshare. This is no longer permitted. These changes do not include one world Emerald or Sapphire members.

Eligible Admirals Club members must present the following documentation:NOTE Qantas Club Dress Code: N.B. Qantas Lounges and Clubs will require Smart Casual (sic) dress as of May 2015; those not meeting the standard may be turned away. (No open-toe shoes.) c/o hartlogan
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Old May 14, 2024, 10:20 pm
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The status holder going in and out multiple times is fine. Bringing a different guest in everytime is not.
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If a person is flying VCE/PHI/IND in Flagship Business from VCE to PHI will the person be allowed Admiral Club access in PHI while waiting for the IND connection?

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Originally Posted by jagoffee
If a person is flying VCE/PHI/IND in Flagship Business from VCE to PHI will the person be allowed Admiral Club access in PHI while waiting for the IND connection?

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Assuming that you mean PHL or Philadelphia.

Yes, you will have access during your layover.
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OW emerald flagship first lounge access?

Hello

OWE member flying AA in PE HND-LAX-SFO.

Will I have access to the Flagship First lounge in LAX? Obviously not the dining.
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Originally Posted by maxmin
Hello

OWE member flying AA in PE HND-LAX-SFO.

Will I have access to the Flagship First lounge in LAX? Obviously not the dining.
if you are a non AA OWE, then yes you get access to LAX AA flagship in T4 and QF F lounge in TBIT.
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Will AA OWE have access to AA flagship and QF F lounge one a LAX - JKF - HEL - TOS flight?
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Originally Posted by KARFA
if you are a non AA OWE, then yes you get access to LAX AA flagship in T4 and QF F lounge in TBIT.
yep BA OWE
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Old May 17, 2024, 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
if you are a non AA OWE, then yes you get access to LAX AA flagship in T4 and QF F lounge in TBIT.
AAdvantage EXP, PPro and Plat members have access the to the Flagship Lounges when traveling on long-haul international itineraries regardless of class of service; so even as an EXP, maxmin will have access to the Flagship Lounge at LAX.
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Old May 17, 2024, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by TWA884
AAdvantage EXP, PPro and Plat members have access the to the Flagship Lounges when traveling on long-haul international itineraries regardless of class of service; so even as an EXP, maxmin will have access to the Flagship Lounge at LAX.

even upon arrival? I guess they have a connecting to SFO. And that part matters?
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Old May 17, 2024, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by RedElmo
even upon arrival? I guess they have a connecting to SFO. And that part matters?
There is no such restriction for AAdvantage members.

Flagship Lounge terms and conditions
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AAdvantage Executive Platinum, AAdvantage Platinum Pro, AAdvantage Platinum and Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan MVP Gold 75K and MVP Gold customers traveling on a qualifying international flight marketed and operated by American, a oneworld airline, or marketed by Aer Lingus and operated by American* (regardless of cabin).
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Hello All:

I have a lounge access question that after reading OW access rules I think I'm out of luck but just wanted to double check. I'm OW Emerald. I use the Flagship Lounge at DFW frequently and have brought in 1 guest before.

Question:
- Family (of 4) flying DFW-BCN in PE. We have two PNRs (Me + Daughter = Paid) and then (Wife + Daughter = Award Points).
- Will my daughter on my paid ticket count as my OW Emerald guest or since she's on my PNR will she get in without me using a guest spot?
- Ultimately, can I get one daughter into FSL or both daughters in FSL? - trying not to have to play favorites, haha

Unfortunately, my wife will need to slum it in the regular AA club since daughters are under 15 and cant access the regular AA club by themselves.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by N771ANflight
Hello All:

I have a lounge access question that after reading OW access rules I think I'm out of luck but just wanted to double check. I'm OW Emerald. I use the Flagship Lounge at DFW frequently and have brought in 1 guest before.

Question:
- Family (of 4) flying DFW-BCN in PE. We have two PNRs (Me + Daughter = Paid) and then (Wife + Daughter = Award Points).
- Will my daughter on my paid ticket count as my OW Emerald guest or since she's on my PNR will she get in without me using a guest spot?
- Ultimately, can I get one daughter into FSL or both daughters in FSL? - trying not to have to play favorites, haha

Unfortunately, my wife will need to slum it in the regular AA club since daughters are under 15 and cant access the regular AA club by themselves.
Thanks!
Welcome to FT. As a PLT Pro flying DFW-BCN, you are allowed one guest total into the Flagship Lounge (or Admirals Club). The PNR that your guest is on is irrelevant, the daughter that is on your PNR doesn't get a "free guest" spot just because she is on your PNR.

So you can enter the Flagship Lounge with only one other guest, either your wife, daughter #1, or daughter #2.

Also your wife would need status or an AC membership to access the Admirals Club with the other daughter.
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Old May 21, 2024, 7:59 am
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Looking at a great business class redemption on Royal Air Maroc. Will I have Soho or Greenwich access at JFK as a OW Emerald? RAM is explicitly not listed on the OW website, I assume because they depart from Terminal 1.
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Old May 21, 2024, 9:11 am
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Looking at a great business class redemption on Royal Air Maroc. Will I have Soho or Greenwich access at JFK as a OW Emerald? RAM is explicitly not listed on the OW website, I assume because they depart from Terminal 1.
As an Emerald you would get Soho (or Greenwich) access. If JFK is your starting point then that would mean clearing security twice, but if you're connecting from AA you could use the lounges before heading to T1.
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PPro DCA-PHL-CDG

Would I have lounge access at DCA for a DCA-PHL-CDG itinerary as a PPro?
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