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2021 Flight [xx] Cancellation / Delay / Diversion etc. on [date] (consolidated)
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Flight Cancel / Cancellation / Cancelled / Delay / Diversion 2021-22 (master thread)
Aug 28, 2022, 10:40 pm
#211
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FlightRadar has you leaving Bermuda at 0300 local but you probably know that already.
Aug 28, 2022, 10:42 pm
#212
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We were met on the runway by fire crew and my understanding of the situation is that they have fire alarms going off in the cockpit but cannot figure out why. Other than that we've not been told much
Aug 28, 2022, 10:43 pm
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Aren’t the flight crew keeping you updated?
Aug 28, 2022, 10:46 pm
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I get that, but I’m not sure any posters around these parts can provide more info than the commander on board !
Aug 28, 2022, 10:57 pm
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Aug 28, 2022, 10:58 pm
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Guess I'll have to wait and see.
Anyone know anything about the crew timing limits?
Anyone know anything about the crew timing limits?
Aug 28, 2022, 11:05 pm
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As this is aa38, that may be better asked on the aa forum, but if they cannot figure out why the fire alarms keep going off I doubt you are going anywhere even if the crew has enough hours.
Aug 29, 2022, 12:07 am
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Fr24 is suggesting you might be going back to miami
Aug 29, 2022, 12:20 am
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Update from captain: based of preliminary inspections they think it's an issue with an AC recirculating fan that's causing the smoke. The problem is that this now requires heavy testing to confirm that it is indeed the source of the problem cos they're understandably not taking risks with fire. Next problem is that even if they isolate that as the problem, the mechanics here at BDA are not qualified to perform some sort of test necessary to continue to fly over water for more than 180 mins so continuing to London on this plane is out of the question.
Two possible options were presented. Either wait for this problem to be sorted and then fly back to MIA or AA will send out a new plane here and we'll then continue to LHR.
Next problem and I'll be honest, this made me chuckle: NASA have a launch in a couple of hours. That's causing issues and delays with Florida airspace and putting quite a squeeze on us flying into MIA or a sourcing a new crew and plane to fly out to us.
Two possible options were presented. Either wait for this problem to be sorted and then fly back to MIA or AA will send out a new plane here and we'll then continue to LHR.
Next problem and I'll be honest, this made me chuckle: NASA have a launch in a couple of hours. That's causing issues and delays with Florida airspace and putting quite a squeeze on us flying into MIA or a sourcing a new crew and plane to fly out to us.
Aug 29, 2022, 12:52 am
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Update from captain: based of preliminary inspections they think it's an issue with an AC recirculating fan that's causing the smoke. The problem is that this now requires heavy testing to confirm that it is indeed the source of the problem cos they're understandably not taking risks with fire. Next problem is that even if they isolate that as the problem, the mechanics here at BDA are not qualified to perform some sort of test necessary to continue to fly over water for more than 180 mins so continuing to London on this plane is out of the question.
Two possible options were presented. Either wait for this problem to be sorted and then fly back to MIA or AA will send out a new plane here and we'll then continue to LHR.
Next problem and I'll be honest, this made me chuckle: NASA have a launch in a couple of hours. That's causing issues and delays with Florida airspace and putting quite a squeeze on us flying into MIA or a sourcing a new crew and plane to fly out to us.
Two possible options were presented. Either wait for this problem to be sorted and then fly back to MIA or AA will send out a new plane here and we'll then continue to LHR.
Next problem and I'll be honest, this made me chuckle: NASA have a launch in a couple of hours. That's causing issues and delays with Florida airspace and putting quite a squeeze on us flying into MIA or a sourcing a new crew and plane to fly out to us.
Aug 29, 2022, 1:27 am
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Good luck. I have NO access to any secret source of crew information or maintenance information. Just 40 years of lots of flying and some understanding of the regulatory system. You have one of those rare problems where the solution isn't going to be simple, even for an airline as large as AA.
[OP might not want to read the next portions of this post because it might be stressful.] Just because this is FT, and speculation is part of the fun, I am going to guess the following. AA will not (and perhaps cannot) fly a qualified maintenance crew and testing equipment to BDA. Also, [my relatively uneducated guess is] they will not fly a new plane to BDA to continue this trip. And they will not risk putting the passengers onto a plane with an unknown fire issue (even if they "think" that it isn't a problem). Instead, they will need to send a "rescue" flight to get the passengers back to MIA where they will try to figure out who wants to go to LHR and who wants to go home (with some compensation for everyone - it is safety related but this just isn't the normal disruption - some people won't get to LHR for 2-3 days). THIS IS SPECULATION BY AN INDIVIDUAL, NOT ANY INSIDER INFORMATION.
[OP might not want to read the next portions of this post because it might be stressful.] Just because this is FT, and speculation is part of the fun, I am going to guess the following. AA will not (and perhaps cannot) fly a qualified maintenance crew and testing equipment to BDA. Also, [my relatively uneducated guess is] they will not fly a new plane to BDA to continue this trip. And they will not risk putting the passengers onto a plane with an unknown fire issue (even if they "think" that it isn't a problem). Instead, they will need to send a "rescue" flight to get the passengers back to MIA where they will try to figure out who wants to go to LHR and who wants to go home (with some compensation for everyone - it is safety related but this just isn't the normal disruption - some people won't get to LHR for 2-3 days). THIS IS SPECULATION BY AN INDIVIDUAL, NOT ANY INSIDER INFORMATION.
Aug 29, 2022, 1:34 am
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[OP might not want to read the next portions of this post because it might be stressful.] Just because this is FT, and speculation is part of the fun, I am going to guess the following. AA will not (and perhaps cannot) fly a qualified maintenance crew and testing equipment to BDA. Also, [my relatively uneducated guess is] they will not fly a new plane to BDA to continue this trip. And they will not risk putting the passengers onto a plane with an unknown fire issue (even if they "think" that it isn't a problem). Instead, they will need to send a "rescue" flight to get the passengers back to MIA where they will try to figure out who wants to go to LHR and who wants to go home (with some compensation for everyone - it is safety related but this just isn't the normal disruption - some people won't get to LHR for 2-3 days). THIS IS SPECULATION BY AN INDIVIDUAL, NOT ANY INSIDER INFORMATION.
Side question: I booked this thru BA. Do I claim compensation from BA or AA?
Aug 29, 2022, 2:10 am
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That is now showing on AA's flight status page.
As a side issue, the rocket launch is the first and unmanned test of the new moon project. Unmanned, but not empty. I see in my paper this morning that Shaun the Sheep is going along for the ride. One giant leap for lambkind.
As a side issue, the rocket launch is the first and unmanned test of the new moon project. Unmanned, but not empty. I see in my paper this morning that Shaun the Sheep is going along for the ride. One giant leap for lambkind.