Last edit by: lowkeyflyer
Methods to bypass flight credit restrictions (primarily being unable to use them on Basic Economy tickets)
Inspired by United thread wiki: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...redit-ffc.html
Inspired by United thread wiki: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...redit-ffc.html
GUIDE to Trip Credit, Flight Credit, Travel Voucher, Gift Card, Refund
#571
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 469
AA offers TOD “tens of dollars” First Class & Upgrades
#572
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: San Juan, PR
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Update from AA Customer Service - 12,500miles plus hotel room, taxi, and food reimbursement as long as I have the original receipts (credit card receipt is not enough). So I have the taxi, and hotel reimbursed.
#573
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: UA Premier Platinum, DL Platinum
Posts: 597
Flight Credit "Can't Be Redeemed Online"
For two years, I have occasionally attempted to use my myriad flight and trip credits to book new tickets. Typically, I try to book these through the AA app. This process would be slightly irritating even if it worked, since you have to first look up the credit under "My Wallet," copy the ticket number, and then go through the booking process to find the flight you want before pasting the number into a box at checkout. But it doesn't usually work: The vast majority of the time, I get the error message "Can't be redeemed online" when I try to use a credit.
I fly more often with Delta and United. Both have managed to work out their travel-credit pages such that you can readily and reliably apply credits -- including multiple credits -- at checkout. American makes it as unwieldy as possible. I assume this started as poor programming and continued as a business decision -- why make it easier to use expiring travel credits when passengers might give up and just pay us cash, or at least let credit expire from our balance sheet? If that's the case, this would be a good opportunity for our transportation secretary to apply his new consumer-protection agenda. There is no good reason that American Airlines can store your credit cards for one-click checkout but not figure out how to process a flight credit that it saves under your account.
I fly more often with Delta and United. Both have managed to work out their travel-credit pages such that you can readily and reliably apply credits -- including multiple credits -- at checkout. American makes it as unwieldy as possible. I assume this started as poor programming and continued as a business decision -- why make it easier to use expiring travel credits when passengers might give up and just pay us cash, or at least let credit expire from our balance sheet? If that's the case, this would be a good opportunity for our transportation secretary to apply his new consumer-protection agenda. There is no good reason that American Airlines can store your credit cards for one-click checkout but not figure out how to process a flight credit that it saves under your account.
#574
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: WAS/TYO
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The way AA handles/displays flight credits is a mess. I've got 16 sitting in my wallet, and I can't see the value of any of them (always receive an error message when I click "view credit"). Some are legitimate and others are cancelled awards with no cash value but that are somehow still sitting there. The only way I can even tell what they're worth is to call in and then track via a separate spreadsheet. I've asked AA to remove all the credits that have no value, but have been told that's not possible. Attempting to use the valid credits often requires agent assistance as well (sometimes with hours long hold times). Very customer unfriendly (and spoilage friendly) in my opinion. UA and DL both have better interfaces to view and apply the credits.
-FlyerBeek
-FlyerBeek
#575
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: USA
Programs: American Airlines (Executive Platinum), Hyatt (Globalist), Hilton (Diamond), IHG (Diamond)
Posts: 2,917
Yes, it's a joke. Clearly designed to cause breakage, since the other airlines streamlined the process for easy online redemption a long time ago.
#576
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
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The way AA handles/displays flight credits is a mess. I've got 16 sitting in my wallet, and I can't see the value of any of them (always receive an error message when I click "view credit"). Some are legitimate and others are cancelled awards with no cash value but that are somehow still sitting there.
I agree there's a big contrast with UA and DL, both of which have made meaningful efforts to upgrade their systems to address this issue since the pandemic started. (And of course AS already had the best system of all in place.) We can debate the level of intent by AA's management here (clearly AA will profit from the massive breakage), but regardless, AA's failure to upgrade the very well known flaws in its system is a big factor in my decision not to make any effort to requalify this year.
#578
Join Date: Aug 2021
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If only it were that easy. Between wait times and incompetent agents, it can be a multiple-call, multiple-hour ordeal.
#579
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: UA Premier Platinum, DL Platinum
Posts: 597
Last night, I did call in to pay for a reservation I had placed on hold using a flight credit. To my surprise, I got an agent within a few seconds, despite having no status. The agent had to put me on hold to talk to his rates desk, but the whole call ultimately took ten minutes.
About two hours later -- around 11:45 PM, just before the hold would have expired -- I checked the reservation on the app to look up seats. It still showed as on hold, even when I refreshed. The flight credit was still in my account. I hadn't gotten a confirmation email.
So, I called again. A friendly and incompetent agent spent about ten minutes trying to research it before transferring me to another agent or department. I waited on hold for 20 more minutes, at which point a competent agent read through the notes that the inept agent had left, put me on hold for about five minutes, and got the ticket issued.
I should not have spent 45 minutes and a degree of diligence trying to use a $260 flight credit to pay for a $220 one-way nonstop domestic ticket.
I'm very close to writing a DOT complaint and copying someone important at AA. Or I might be a bigger jerk and write a letter directly to DOT's assistant secretary for aviation. Not asking for help with the ticket, but asking DOT to start penalizing carriers, like AA, that fail to comply with the spirit of DOT's consumer guidance by making credits usable. I realize that letter probably gets kicked down to DOT's complaint department, but I'll do what I can to write it as a policy request, not a help-me-with-my-problem complaint.
Because I am confident that people with less time, patience, or airline wherewithal than me -- particularly infrequent fliers who don't have a bunch of disposable income -- have given up or lost funds rather than using the credits they're entitled to.
#580
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I'm very close to writing a DOT complaint and copying someone important at AA. Or I might be a bigger jerk and write a letter directly to DOT's assistant secretary for aviation. Not asking for help with the ticket, but asking DOT to start penalizing carriers, like AA, that fail to comply with the spirit of DOT's consumer guidance by making credits usable. I realize that letter probably gets kicked down to DOT's complaint department, but I'll do what I can to write it as a policy request, not a help-me-with-my-problem complaint.
Because I am confident that people with less time, patience, or airline wherewithal than me -- particularly infrequent fliers who don't have a bunch of disposable income -- have given up or lost funds rather than using the credits they're entitled to.
Because I am confident that people with less time, patience, or airline wherewithal than me -- particularly infrequent fliers who don't have a bunch of disposable income -- have given up or lost funds rather than using the credits they're entitled to.
#581
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Alexandria, Va - National Airport (DCA)
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Speaking of which:
I should not have spent 45 minutes and a degree of diligence trying to use a $260 flight credit to pay for a $220 one-way nonstop domestic ticket.
Because I am confident that people with less time, patience, or airline wherewithal than me -- particularly infrequent fliers who don't have a bunch of disposable income -- have given up or lost funds rather than using the credits they're entitled to.
I should not have spent 45 minutes and a degree of diligence trying to use a $260 flight credit to pay for a $220 one-way nonstop domestic ticket.
Because I am confident that people with less time, patience, or airline wherewithal than me -- particularly infrequent fliers who don't have a bunch of disposable income -- have given up or lost funds rather than using the credits they're entitled to.
I have no doubt that you're right that have many have simply given up on redeeming flight credits. I have a measly $40 credit that I'm already gritting my teeth over when it comes time to (attempt) to redeem. Perhaps that is what AA is counting on? Sad either way.
#582
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: USA
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In the end, some lawyer will file a class-action lawsuit and be paid tens of millions by AA while affected AA customers get a $5 coupon. But AA will still come out ahead.
#583
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Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,094
Charged more by phone than online
Warning: I booked a ticket online, put it on hold and then called to pay for it using a flight credit.
The phone agent mentioned “$675”, but I didn’t catch what he was talking about. Stupidly, I gave him my credit card info.
I was then charged $675 despite the reservation on hold being $200-something.
I cancelled it immediately after I received the confirmation email and saw the price, but warning: you may be charged much more by phone than online.
The phone agent mentioned “$675”, but I didn’t catch what he was talking about. Stupidly, I gave him my credit card info.
I was then charged $675 despite the reservation on hold being $200-something.
I cancelled it immediately after I received the confirmation email and saw the price, but warning: you may be charged much more by phone than online.
#584
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SFO
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