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AA & B6 (JetBlue) enhance Partnership: codesharing, coordination, status & earning

AA & B6 (JetBlue) enhance Partnership: codesharing, coordination, status & earning

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American Airlines announced a new strategic partnership including codesharing on some routes in July 2020. In January 2021, several other enhancements to this partnership were announced, including:

Important components of the alliance will be introduced starting in the first quarter of 2021 and phased in over the course of the year:

  • Seamless customer experience
    With each element of the alliance, customers flying in and out of New York and Boston will enjoy a more seamless experience across both airlines, including the ability to book a single itinerary on either website, access to the alliances significant global network, convenient connections, access to loyalty benefits and an improved on-the-ground experience resulting in a compelling proposition for both leisure and corporate customers.
  • Network alignment in the Northeast
    The alliance will offer customers the largest network in New York City and Boston, and it will enable new strategic growth opportunities for both airlines, accelerate the replacement of small regional jets with larger aircraft, while greatly expanding the connectivity between each carriers network in the Northeast. American will upgauge aircraft and by the end of 2021 will operate all service out of New York with first class. Starting in the first half of 2021, JetBlue and American schedules in New York and Boston will begin to be aligned to give customers new flight options, with improved schedules, better connections, competitive fares and access to more domestic and international destinations.
  • Expanded service in the Northeast
    As part of the alliance, JetBlue plans to significantly expand its service at New York LaGuardia Airport (LGA), as well as further expand in other NYC airports and in Boston. The alliance will also allow JetBlue to reactivate aircraft that would otherwise sit idle. An expanded operation at LaGuardia further advances JetBlues position as New Yorks Hometown Airline and accelerates the airlines ability to recover.

    As previously announced, American is introducing brand new service on from New York (JFK) to Tel Aviv (TLV) and Athens (ATH). Americans loyal customers in New York will be introduced to their first long-haul international service in more than four years, with even more new routes on the way.
  • Codeshare agreement
    Starting later this quarter, JetBlue will place its B6 code on a variety of American flights in New York and Boston. Likewise, American will place its AA code on select JetBlue flights also in at New Yorks John F. Kennedy International, LaGuardia (LGA) and Newark Liberty International (EWR) airports, as well as Boston Logan International Airport (BOS). Flights touching New York or Boston from either JetBlue, American or connecting combinations of both will be bookable on jetblue.com and aa.com in the coming weeks. The codeshare will introduce JetBlue customers to more than 60 new routes operated by American and will introduce Americans customers to more than 130 new routes operated by JetBlue.
  • Reciprocal loyalty benefits
    Later this year, customers of both JetBlues TrueBlue and Americans AAdvantage programs will be able to enjoy reciprocal benefits, including the ability to earn and/or redeem points or miles on either carrier making both loyalty program even more valuable. The airlines are also exploring opportunities to recognize JetBlue Mosaic customers and Americans AAdvantage elite members across both airlines. More details will be announced to loyalty program members later this year.

Link to January 12, 2021, AA news release

As of Jan 31st, 2022 - Benefits typically do not show up when managing the booking and will show up when checking in online.

To receive elite benefits add your AAdvantage number at time of purchase, or contact JetBlue customer service to add it after purchase.

JetBlue Basic: AA elites still get free seat selection and a free bag on Blue Basic fares. All passengers are allowed to bring on board a personal item that fits under the seat. However you do not get to bring a free full size carry-on with Blue Basic except when you select an Even More Space seat.

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Old Jul 16, 20, 9:32 am
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So the AA/B6 partnership is back on again? Wonder how it will be different this time around.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 9:41 am
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The codeshare agreement is great. The "seamless" connections would be more interesting if it didn't require going outside security at BOS, JFK, and LAX. Will we be able to access Admiral's club when flying B6, or only on a codeshare?
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Old Jul 16, 20, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by upinsmoke View Post
The codeshare agreement is great. The "seamless" connections would be more interesting if it didn't require going outside security at BOS, JFK, and LAX. Will we be able to access Admiral's club when flying B6, or only on a codeshare?
I would guess only on a codeshare for now.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 9:56 am
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Will B6 maybe move some of their mint flight to T8 for Flagship Lounge? Or will B6 build its own lounge? If AA/B6 really want to collaborate on the PREMIUM transcon market, I would expect the same lounge access rule/standard. AS, on the other hand, can be the "prem econ like" First class product with lower fares.
With AS/BA moving into T8 and (hopefully) a consolidation with Mint service, maybe it's time to rethink building the whole Terminal 8.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 9:56 am
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Interesting news. Questions:

1) Will there be EQM/EQD earning when flying Jetblue flights?
2) Will there be an airside shuttle between T8/T5 at JFK?
3) Will gov't approve a codeshare on the B6 Transcons given the broad alliance with AS. Probably 80%+ (guess) of the JFK-LAX/SFO/SEA transcons would be in OW or AA coded with only DL as an alternative IIRC.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by JALOO5-Flyer View Post
Will B6 maybe move some of their mint flight to T8 for Flagship Lounge? Or will B6 build its own lounge? If AA/B6 really want to collaborate on the PREMIUM transcon market, I would expect the same lounge access rule/standard. AS, on the other hand, can be the "prem econ like" First class product with lower fares.
With AS/BA moving into T8 and (hopefully) a consolidation with Mint service, maybe it's time to rethink building the whole Terminal 8.
Unlikely. Too many connections at T5 to start moving things to T8 for B6.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 10:10 am
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Round 2.....
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Old Jul 16, 20, 10:59 am
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How different is this from the former B6 partnership for those who remember that?

My guess is it had to be done to get more domestic feed to AA flights out of JFK as there's pretty much no real network left there on AA.
I remember the partnership when I was flying JFK-SYR/ROC years ago. While I will use that sometimes, what this does is allow more leisure flying to Florida assuming they codeshare those flights. Other than MIA, there's only one other direct flight (please correct me if wrong) from NY to Florida and that's to MCO. This for me is a plus as my son will likely be relocating to Orlando within the next two months.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by george 3 View Post
I remember the partnership when I was flying JFK-SYR/ROC years ago. While I will use that sometimes, what this does is allow more leisure flying to Florida assuming they codeshare those flights. Other than MIA, there's only one other direct flight (please correct me if wrong) from NY to Florida and that's to MCO. This for me is a plus as my son will likely be relocating to Orlando within the next two months.
I believe there is LGA-TPA as well (or maybe there used to be). But yes, AA hasn't had a very large footprint of FL-Northeast service for a long time now, except PHL of course.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 11:25 am
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Wouldn't LAX and BOS be non-factor for security? Assuming even with B6 consolidating LA market more to LAX it'll still be T5/T6 and connected via the walkways. For BOS, not sure of the current status/progress, but the orphan 40s gates of C were going to be connect to rest of C and then air-side to B. JFK have to see what happens with the T7 future and potential T5/T8 connected mega-terminal.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 11:31 am
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They're nowhere close at LGA either, with B6 in the Marine Terminal that's a bus ride away from AA. Not close, at least pre-COVID.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by nyc6035 View Post
Will there be EQM/EQD earning when flying Jetblue flights?
As with all codeshares, its likely that if you book the AA flight number, its credited as an AA flight even if its B6 metal. The question is whether booking a B6 marketed flight gets you anything.
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Originally Posted by Roamingredcoat View Post
Wouldn't LAX and BOS be non-factor for security? Assuming even with B6 consolidating LA market more to LAX it'll still be T5/T6 and connected via the walkways. For BOS, not sure of the current status/progress, but the orphan 40s gates of C were going to be connect to rest of C and then air-side to B. JFK have to see what happens with the T7 future and potential T5/T8 connected mega-terminal.
Good point. I forgot about the underground walkway from T4 to T5 at LAX. Hopefully the BOS B to C connector will take less time than the Big Dig!
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Old Jul 16, 20, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by nyc6035 View Post
Interesting news. Questions:

1) Will there be EQM/EQD earning when flying Jetblue flights?
2) Will there be an airside shuttle between T8/T5 at JFK?
3) Will gov't approve a codeshare on the B6 Transcons given the broad alliance with AS. Probably 80%+ (guess) of the JFK-LAX/SFO/SEA transcons would be in OW or AA coded with only DL as an alternative IIRC.
#3 I think isn't a given. The announcement by AA even made very clear this partnership is dependent on approval by DOJ/DOT. With AS they basically said it will happen regardless. I think this points to a concern it wont be. I also think there's good reasons it won't be. (Especially due to overlap on NYC/LAX market) However this is an unusual time, so can't rule it out.
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Old Jul 16, 20, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by upinsmoke View Post
Good point. I forgot about the underground walkway from T4 to T5 at LAX. Hopefully the BOS B to C connector will take less time than the Big Dig!
To Massport's credit, they've been pretty good with Logan timelines. https://www.massport.com/capitalprog...20Briefing.pdf & https://www.massport.com/logan-forwa...o-c-connector/. Est. 2021.

Have not been at Logan this year, but the ring road around B/C was a mess end of last year with them re-engineering the roadways. I assume with reduced air travel volumes they should still be on track.
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