jacca83

While the new Flagship Lounges will be much larger, it's still ridiculous that Platinum and Platinum Pro get access . Now that they are adding the spend requirement how can it be fair that someone who spends $6K and someone who spend $12K get the same offerings? DisAApointing and insulting. US Airways Management needs to go, they've created enough damage already.

nrr

I'm EXP until 1/31/18--so right now I can be "elitist" and agree with much of your post! Next year when I'm no longer EXP (since I will not have amassed $12K eqds), but can fall back on my lifetime plat status I'll be "singing a different tune".

petey2428

Hi All,

I'm a little confused at this new access rule. I booked an award travel from Chicago to Lima using AA miles (ORD->EWR on AA domestic first, JFK->Lima on LATAM business). My flight is in June. Will I have access to the Flagship lounge at JFK even though I will be flying on LATAM business? Also, according to AA's award chart, Lima is considered South America 1, so would this qualify for the "deep South America" definition?

Thank you for your help!

golfingboy

Yes - only if the new rules goes into effect before your trip. AFAIK, they haven't rolled out the new rules yet.

JDiver

Does LATAM depart Terminal 8? If not, you may be limited to the lounge used by LATAM.

ijgordon

Lima is not considered Deep South America, but that's not relevant for lounge access anyway. All of South America is considered international for lounge access. It's only Mexico that is not considered international (with the exception of Mexico City).

As golfingboy mentioned, the new rules aren't in effect, which in practice is due to the fact that no "Flagship Lounge" exists at the moment anyway. The former FL's have been (temporarily) rebranded as International First Class Lounges. AA is supposed to START introducing the new FL's this "Spring", which I guess means potentially as late as June 20th. And I don't think we know whether that will include JFK. See wiki post at the top for more details, including a link.

jay_dubya

Slightly off-topic, but I hope you keep checking for award availability from ORD to JFK (or even LGA) to not have to transfer from EWR to JFK.

Madison Guy

Probable +1 to that!

SpeedRicer

Ditto, since I'll hit 2MM this year.

Although I'm surprised to see PLT/PRO included, it sounds like the FL brand itself is being repositioned to be a combined J/F offering rather than F-only offering - for which the PLT/PRO/OWS additions make more sense. Given the declining number of F seats in the fleet, basically the J experience goes up a notch from the current AC experience and the F experience maybe stays the same but is less exclusive (except for Flagship Dining).

The separation between AC and FL actually reminds me of the difference between the QC/Qantas "Pub" and their Domestic Business/International lounges. Although QF still does do better differentiation with their F-only lounges in LAX, SYD, etc. -- their new concept for lounge revamps in BNE, SIN, HKG, LHR, etc. is a combined J/F lounge that is similar to the new FL setup.

http://www.caonstudio.com/qantassingapore/

JDiver

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SkyTeam777

does access apply to all three premium transcons or just those from/to JFK?
Does an EXP on LAX-MIA in business get access?

jcatman

If you carefully read the Wiki, both of your questions will be answered.

sdsearch

i haven't been to a Flagship Lounge in years. But I have been to the wonderful OW business class lounge at TBIT at LAX. Anyone been to both, and can compare them? Will int'l business class travelers at LAX on AA not "feel the need" to wander over to TBIT anymore for the "far-better lounge", once they can access the Flagship Lounge in T4?

oysterhead43

OW Lounge in TBIT was far nicer than old Flagship in LAX, IMO.

Flagship is currently being renovated, so currently it's not even a comparison (OWL is far far far nicer than temporary area).

OtherHand

I suppose tastes can vary quite a bit, but to me the OW lounge was inferior to the old Flagship in several ways. I found the OW lounge pretty dark and crowded (at least when I visited). I was a little surprised that although the food offerings seemed more substantial than what was typically offered in the old Flagship, nothing looked appealing to me. Another consideration is that if one has any issues with their flights, the Flagship agents are excellent in sorting them out. The OW folks can't do much for you. That said, I'd take take the OW Lounge in a heartbeat over the current half-assed Flagship.

If the LAX remodel ends up anything like the JKF Flagship (International Premium Lounge?) then it could end up approaching the Qantas First (my current favorite hangout), although smaller and with a likely better view.