[Archived] AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (2015-2018)
Apr 3, 2018, 7:46 pm
#2251
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from https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...s/gulf-air.jsp , the last date to book is listed as 30 April , so that shouldn't be the issue
Whether AA has availability for awards on GF is another matter - you could try another AA office and see if it can see availability
Whether AA has availability for awards on GF is another matter - you could try another AA office and see if it can see availability
Apr 3, 2018, 10:18 pm
#2252
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Originally Posted by Wiki
The particular carrier's Maximum Permitted Miles / MPM + 25% on a particular route. (The MPM by itself often exceeds the distance between the origin and destination airports because connections may be required.)
Or, the "most significant carrier" (e.g. DFW-SFO-HKG-BKK, CX SFO-HKG is the prevailing or most significant carrier) must publish a non-constructed fare between your origin and destination.
To price as a single award, AAdvantage requires the most significant carrier to publish a cash fare (non-constructed) between the origin and destination. Airline MSC would have to have a published fare from XXX to YYY that allows travel on all included airlines, and routing that you want. If the MSC only offers constructed fares between your desired origin and destination, AA will price this as two awards.
Or, the "most significant carrier" (e.g. DFW-SFO-HKG-BKK, CX SFO-HKG is the prevailing or most significant carrier) must publish a non-constructed fare between your origin and destination.
To price as a single award, AAdvantage requires the most significant carrier to publish a cash fare (non-constructed) between the origin and destination. Airline MSC would have to have a published fare from XXX to YYY that allows travel on all included airlines, and routing that you want. If the MSC only offers constructed fares between your desired origin and destination, AA will price this as two awards.
CX's website doesn't even publish SBY as an airport let alone use this routing - but I was able to price this as one award. What am I missing here?
Apr 4, 2018, 7:14 am
#2253
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1) There are thousands if not millions of valid published fares and routings out there that may not show up on a carrier's website for booking. You need to use a service like ExpertFlyer to see everything.
2) Even when it appears that there's no published fare on any given itinerary, or that the routing may not be allowed, there are TONS of instances we've seen where AA's computers will still ticket it as a single award. This is why it's imperative to always call AA first, rather than wasting time initially trying to see if there's a published fare for a partner award.
Apr 4, 2018, 11:49 am
#2254
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Has your ticket for that itinerary been issued yet? If so, congrats! If not, keep your eye on the booking until you get a ticket number.
Apr 4, 2018, 12:45 pm
#2255
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Originally Posted by JJeffery
2) Even when it appears that there's no published fare on any given itinerary, or that the routing may not be allowed, there are TONS of instances we've seen where AA's computers will still ticket it as a single award. This is why it's imperative to always call AA first, rather than wasting time initially trying to see if there's a published fare for a partner award.
Apr 4, 2018, 3:15 pm
#2256
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Can the sticky clarify about the S7 part "S7 - S7 (and Globus - but excludes far eastern Russia / Siberia)" portion?
I'm assuming this is because it's pretty insane to assume you can go from LAX-[insert any number of connections in Russia]-VVO all under the US-Europe award rate even though the award rule states the whole of Russia falls under "Europe."
I do recall there was a cutoff point to where "Europe" in Russia ends on the old AA page, but can't find it on AA.com anymore. Anyone remember what that was?
I'm assuming this is because it's pretty insane to assume you can go from LAX-[insert any number of connections in Russia]-VVO all under the US-Europe award rate even though the award rule states the whole of Russia falls under "Europe."
I do recall there was a cutoff point to where "Europe" in Russia ends on the old AA page, but can't find it on AA.com anymore. Anyone remember what that was?
Apr 6, 2018, 5:53 pm
#2258
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ETA - I checked EF and they only seem to have routing based fares for EWR-DPS allowing only a connection in HKG, so I would call AA to see.
Apr 6, 2018, 6:04 pm
#2259
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Should be one award, I think CX publishes MPM fares and I can't imagine you would run afoul of going over that with that routing.
ETA - I checked EF and they only seem to have routing based fares for EWR-DPS allowing only a connection in HKG, so I would call AA to see.
ETA - I checked EF and they only seem to have routing based fares for EWR-DPS allowing only a connection in HKG, so I would call AA to see.
Apr 8, 2018, 6:46 am
#2260
Join Date: Sep 2017
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I'm looking to book an award TLV-JFK that I think might not meet AA's MSC rules to ticket as one award because of EY not partnering with RJ (or serving TLV for that matter), but does anyone know for sure since I'm not sure I should trust what phone reps might say?
RJ TLV-AMM
EY AMM-AUH
EY AUH-JFK
RJ TLV-AMM
EY AMM-AUH
EY AUH-JFK
Apr 8, 2018, 9:14 am
#2262
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I’m not saying this rule doesn’t exist, but the published fare rule has never been an impediment for me. I’ve posted here several times about examples i have booked that are clearly prohibited under this rule but were nonetheless ticketed without question. In particular, I’ve found it to be a non issue with some pretty interesting combinations of AA, CX and JL but I’ve also had it ignored for more obscure combinations.
Another case in point booked recently, 5 biz awards using AA overwater to LHR connecting to a DJ operated flight (City Flyer) out of LCY. Unable to replicate as a revenue ticket and relevant AA fares have no mention of DJ as a permitted carrier within Europe. I fed this segment by sebment to the agent and it priced immediately at 57.5k.
It’s worth trying a call before you ever give much thought to this rule.
Another case in point booked recently, 5 biz awards using AA overwater to LHR connecting to a DJ operated flight (City Flyer) out of LCY. Unable to replicate as a revenue ticket and relevant AA fares have no mention of DJ as a permitted carrier within Europe. I fed this segment by sebment to the agent and it priced immediately at 57.5k.
It’s worth trying a call before you ever give much thought to this rule.
Last edited by stephem; Apr 8, 2018 at 9:21 am
Apr 8, 2018, 10:45 am
#2263
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s it possible to book DFW-TYO-SYD on Japan Airlines using AA miles? I have 90K AA miles and I am seeing two seats available in J on JAL website and am curious if I can book a ticket thru AA?
I have 90K MR, so I was thinking about transferring to JAL and booking a single ticket and then hopefully booking the second ticket using my AA miles. Is this possible?
I have 90K MR, so I was thinking about transferring to JAL and booking a single ticket and then hopefully booking the second ticket using my AA miles. Is this possible?
Apr 8, 2018, 11:43 am
#2264
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s it possible to book DFW-TYO-SYD on Japan Airlines using AA miles? I have 90K AA miles and I am seeing two seats available in J on JAL website and am curious if I can book a ticket thru AA?
I have 90K MR, so I was thinking about transferring to JAL and booking a single ticket and then hopefully booking the second ticket using my AA miles. Is this possible?
I have 90K MR, so I was thinking about transferring to JAL and booking a single ticket and then hopefully booking the second ticket using my AA miles. Is this possible?
Apr 8, 2018, 5:39 pm
#2265
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Help! Trying to do economy 30k travel from Chicago to Spain this summer. July 5th leave or a few days after and come back July 19 or a few days after. I was finding reward space a few days ago but now it’s gone. I could fly home to a different US city ( NYC, etc) but I’m having no luck. Need two seats.
any hacks in award booking I’m missing?
any hacks in award booking I’m missing?