Apr 24, 2019, 11:32 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
State of the widebody aircraft Premium Economy retrofit 1st half of 2019
The 787-8 retrofit standardizes 788 seating at C20, W28, Y186 (of which 42 are MCE). Refitting took two weeks per airframe, and two were in the shop at Paine Field at any one time. AA begins selling Premium Economy tickets as if 1 May (if not before) on the 787-8.
787-8 Current Status as of 24 April April 2019: NO J28 788s left in service, refit completed.:
REFIT TO PE: N800AN was the test article / prototype (PAE Sep 2018), N816AA was the last (returned to service 24 Apr 2019).
List of (20) existing Boeing 787-8s: (reg # / fleet #)
N800AN / 8AA (refitted to 20 J seats, Premium Economy - test article)
N801AC / 8AB (refitted)
N802AN / 8AC (refitted)
N803AL / 8AD (refitted)
N804AN / 8AE (refitted)
N805AN / 8AF (refitted)
N806AA / 8AG (refitted)
N807AA / 8AH (refitted)
N808AN / 8AJ (refitted)
N809AA / 8AK (refitted)
N810AN / 8AL (refitted)
N811AB / 8AM (refitted)
N812AA / 8AN (refitted)
N813AN / 8AP (refitted)
N814AA / 8AR (refitted)
N815AA / 8AS (refitted)
N816AA / 8AT (refitted)
N817AN / 8AU (refitted)
N818AL / 8AV (refitted)
N819AN / 8AW (refitted)
Thanks to econometrics, b]golfingboy, hawkfan7314,
jvel, rjlon, United857!
Last updated on 24 April 2019
NOTE: There are no J28 - without Premium Economy 788s in service as of 17 April 2019. See (unofficial) American Fleet Site here for fairly current listings..
All Boeing 787-9 have Premium Economy “out of the box”.
All Boeing 777-300ER / 77W have been refitted with Premium Economy
All 777-200ER / 772 All have been refitted with 37 Business seats and have Premium Economy.
All Airbus A330-200s have been refitted with Premium Economy. (A330-300s are ultimately scheduled for retirement and will not be fitted with PE at this time.)
Review of 772 PE by ThePointsGuy HERE. Photos below from ThePointsGuy.
AA Rockwell Collins MiQ Premium Economy seats
(only bulkhead Seats have legrests)
and
See New 777-300 / 77W Config with Premium Economy as of Dec 2017
Link to AA Premium Economy page.
Not being retrofitted with Premium Economy seats:
AA has begun offering AA (only) Premium Economy awards.
Link to AA press release announcing Premium Economy
Link to virtual PEY experience on aa.com
Link to Ft. Worth Star-Telegram article
Link to Chicago Tribune article
Link to Gary Leff - View from the Wing blog
Link to Australian Business Traveller blog
Link to archived "Speculation" thread.
Older posts from 2018 have been archived and can be read here.
Older posts from 2015-2017 have been archived and can be read here.
The 787-8 retrofit standardizes 788 seating at C20, W28, Y186 (of which 42 are MCE). Refitting took two weeks per airframe, and two were in the shop at Paine Field at any one time. AA begins selling Premium Economy tickets as if 1 May (if not before) on the 787-8.
787-8 Current Status as of 24 April April 2019: NO J28 788s left in service, refit completed.:
REFIT TO PE: N800AN was the test article / prototype (PAE Sep 2018), N816AA was the last (returned to service 24 Apr 2019).
List of (20) existing Boeing 787-8s: (reg # / fleet #)
N800AN / 8AA (refitted to 20 J seats, Premium Economy - test article)
N801AC / 8AB (refitted)
N802AN / 8AC (refitted)
N803AL / 8AD (refitted)
N804AN / 8AE (refitted)
N805AN / 8AF (refitted)
N806AA / 8AG (refitted)
N807AA / 8AH (refitted)
N808AN / 8AJ (refitted)
N809AA / 8AK (refitted)
N810AN / 8AL (refitted)
N811AB / 8AM (refitted)
N812AA / 8AN (refitted)
N813AN / 8AP (refitted)
N814AA / 8AR (refitted)
N815AA / 8AS (refitted)
N816AA / 8AT (refitted)
N817AN / 8AU (refitted)
N818AL / 8AV (refitted)
N819AN / 8AW (refitted)
Aircraft movement to / from to PAE for retrofitting in 2019:
N810AN to PAE 9 Jan from DFW
N812AA to PAE 11 Jan from DFW
N809AA to PAE 24 Jan from ORD
N812AA back in service 24 Jan
N802AN to PAE 29 Jan from DFW
N810AN back in service 24 Jan
N806AA to PAE 02 Feb
N809AA back in service 03 Feb
N802AN back in service 08 Feb
N803AL to KPAE 8 Feb
N811AB to KPAE 12 Feb
N803AL back in service 18 Feb
N805AN to KPAE 20 Feb
N811AB back in service 23 Feb
N804AN to KPAE 23 Feb
N805AN back in service 28 Feb (to ORD)
N814AN and N817AN to KPAE 4 March (from ORD)
N804AN back in service 4 March (to ORD)
N807AA to KPAE 10 March (from ORD)
N817AN back in service 10 March (to ORD)
N814AN back in service 13 March (to DFW)
N819AN / 8AW to PAE 20 Mar
N807AA back in service 20 March (from DFW)
N813AN back in service 25 March (from DFW)
N808AN to PAE 25 Mar
N819AN back in service 29 March
N818AL to PAE 30 Mar
N801AC to PAE 6 April
N808AN back in service 6 April (to DFW)
N818AL back in service 10 April (to DFW)
N815AA to PAE 11 April
N816AA to PAE 17 April
N801AC to ORD 17 Apr
N815AA to DFW 20 Apr
N816AA to ORD 24 Apr
N810AN to PAE 9 Jan from DFW
N812AA to PAE 11 Jan from DFW
N809AA to PAE 24 Jan from ORD
N812AA back in service 24 Jan
N802AN to PAE 29 Jan from DFW
N810AN back in service 24 Jan
N806AA to PAE 02 Feb
N809AA back in service 03 Feb
N802AN back in service 08 Feb
N803AL to KPAE 8 Feb
N811AB to KPAE 12 Feb
N803AL back in service 18 Feb
N805AN to KPAE 20 Feb
N811AB back in service 23 Feb
N804AN to KPAE 23 Feb
N805AN back in service 28 Feb (to ORD)
N814AN and N817AN to KPAE 4 March (from ORD)
N804AN back in service 4 March (to ORD)
N807AA to KPAE 10 March (from ORD)
N817AN back in service 10 March (to ORD)
N814AN back in service 13 March (to DFW)
N819AN / 8AW to PAE 20 Mar
N807AA back in service 20 March (from DFW)
N813AN back in service 25 March (from DFW)
N808AN to PAE 25 Mar
N819AN back in service 29 March
N818AL to PAE 30 Mar
N801AC to PAE 6 April
N808AN back in service 6 April (to DFW)
N818AL back in service 10 April (to DFW)
N815AA to PAE 11 April
N816AA to PAE 17 April
N801AC to ORD 17 Apr
N815AA to DFW 20 Apr
N816AA to ORD 24 Apr
Thanks to econometrics, b]golfingboy, hawkfan7314,
jvel, rjlon, United857!
Last updated on 24 April 2019
NOTE: There are no J28 - without Premium Economy 788s in service as of 17 April 2019. See (unofficial) American Fleet Site here for fairly current listings..
All Boeing 787-9 have Premium Economy “out of the box”.
All Boeing 777-300ER / 77W have been refitted with Premium Economy
All 777-200ER / 772 All have been refitted with 37 Business seats and have Premium Economy.
All Airbus A330-200s have been refitted with Premium Economy. (A330-300s are ultimately scheduled for retirement and will not be fitted with PE at this time.)
Review of 772 PE by ThePointsGuy HERE. Photos below from ThePointsGuy.
AA Rockwell Collins MiQ Premium Economy seats
(only bulkhead Seats have legrests)
and
See New 777-300 / 77W Config with Premium Economy as of Dec 2017
Link to AA Premium Economy page.
Not being retrofitted with Premium Economy seats:
- 767-300ER / 763
- A330-300
AA has begun offering AA (only) Premium Economy awards.
Link to AA press release announcing Premium Economy
Link to virtual PEY experience on aa.com
Link to Ft. Worth Star-Telegram article
Link to Chicago Tribune article
Link to Gary Leff - View from the Wing blog
Link to Australian Business Traveller blog
Link to archived "Speculation" thread.
Older posts from 2018 have been archived and can be read here.
Older posts from 2015-2017 have been archived and can be read here.
ARCHIVE: Boeing 787-8 / 788 Premium Economy / PE / PEY progress and seat info
Apr 1, 2019, 12:07 pm
#121
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My experience is that 6 and 7 open up almost entirely empty. I haven't seen an Js getting bumped because they were underselling the J Cabin by at least 8. But, that's all based on the domestic routes to be fair. The note above implies that Js are getting bumped.
I'd still recommend staying 8 or 9 in case you happen to get a non-refit at the last minute, in which case you'd get randomly reassigned if you were in 6 or 7.
I'd still recommend staying 8 or 9 in case you happen to get a non-refit at the last minute, in which case you'd get randomly reassigned if you were in 6 or 7.
Apr 1, 2019, 3:22 pm
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Good to hear this seems solid about not getting switched, bar any other aircraft change. We are AA99 LHR-ORD this Saturday and looking at this week thus far it's all refitted 788's.
Question is though, we are 3 in row 8 based upon the feedback for the safety of securing PE. however when 6/7 opens up will it already have the bumped J's into them does anyone know? Don't want to get excited and jump into 6 or perhaps 7 and then get hoisted out to the back of the bus. ;-)
Question is though, we are 3 in row 8 based upon the feedback for the safety of securing PE. however when 6/7 opens up will it already have the bumped J's into them does anyone know? Don't want to get excited and jump into 6 or perhaps 7 and then get hoisted out to the back of the bus. ;-)
Apr 1, 2019, 6:40 pm
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Question about today's flight AA110 ORD-FCO. Does anyone happen to know the tail number and if it was a retrofitted 787-8? I know that it's slated to be a retrofitted plane by May 1st because PE is being sold for that flight then. Today is the second day that flight even exists as ORD-FCO. I am curious if it went out with PE seating or not. I don't have a paid account anywhere to see tail number to cross reference the info from this thread. Thanks!
Apr 1, 2019, 7:18 pm
#124
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Question about today's flight AA110 ORD-FCO. Does anyone happen to know the tail number and if it was a retrofitted 787-8? I know that it's slated to be a retrofitted plane by May 1st because PE is being sold for that flight then. Today is the second day that flight even exists as ORD-FCO. I am curious if it went out with PE seating or not. I don't have a paid account anywhere to see tail number to cross reference the info from this thread. Thanks!
Apr 1, 2019, 9:17 pm
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Question about today's flight AA110 ORD-FCO. Does anyone happen to know the tail number and if it was a retrofitted 787-8? I know that it's slated to be a retrofitted plane by May 1st because PE is being sold for that flight then. Today is the second day that flight even exists as ORD-FCO. I am curious if it went out with PE seating or not. I don't have a paid account anywhere to see tail number to cross reference the info from this thread. Thanks!
Apr 2, 2019, 3:05 am
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Flightstats shows you the tail number for free and you can get a free EF subscription which shows seat maps and occpuied but not Award and Upgrade inventory. If that helps anyone.
Last edited by flyertalker54234; Apr 2, 2019 at 3:12 am
Apr 2, 2019, 3:51 am
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Question about today's flight AA110 ORD-FCO. Does anyone happen to know the tail number and if it was a retrofitted 787-8? I know that it's slated to be a retrofitted plane by May 1st because PE is being sold for that flight then. Today is the second day that flight even exists as ORD-FCO. I am curious if it went out with PE seating or not. I don't have a paid account anywhere to see tail number to cross reference the info from this thread. Thanks!
Flightstats tells yout tail under details for free.
Last edited by flyertalker54234; Apr 2, 2019 at 4:15 am
Apr 2, 2019, 6:19 am
#128
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Thanks, I guess I was using the wrong site! I've been watching things on FlightAware. I guess I will use Flightstats. I appreciate the info. I'm new at this 
Apr 6, 2019, 8:52 am
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Looks like N801AC is on the way to PAE from DFW today (6 April).
N808AN coming back to DFW today with PE / reduced J, too.
Only two more w/o PE: N815AA, N816AA
N808AN coming back to DFW today with PE / reduced J, too.
Only two more w/o PE: N815AA, N816AA
Apr 11, 2019, 8:29 am
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N818AL came back to DFW from PAE on 10 April with PE.
N815AA was supposed to go to PAE on 10 April, but looks like it subbed into AA70/71 to FRA instead. I'm guessing it will go up to PAE tonight or tomorrow when it lands from FRA.
Only N816AA is left flying around without PE and 28J.
N815AA was supposed to go to PAE on 10 April, but looks like it subbed into AA70/71 to FRA instead. I'm guessing it will go up to PAE tonight or tomorrow when it lands from FRA.
Only N816AA is left flying around without PE and 28J.
Apr 11, 2019, 9:48 am
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N818AL came back to DFW from PAE on 10 April with PE.
N815AA was supposed to go to PAE on 10 April, but looks like it subbed into AA70/71 to FRA instead. I'm guessing it will go up to PAE tonight or tomorrow when it lands from FRA.
Only N816AA is left flying around without PE and 28J.
N815AA was supposed to go to PAE on 10 April, but looks like it subbed into AA70/71 to FRA instead. I'm guessing it will go up to PAE tonight or tomorrow when it lands from FRA.
Only N816AA is left flying around without PE and 28J.
Apr 11, 2019, 10:17 am
#132
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N818AL came back to DFW from PAE on 10 April with PE.
N815AA was supposed to go to PAE on 10 April, but looks like it subbed into AA70/71 to FRA instead. I'm guessing it will go up to PAE tonight or tomorrow when it lands from FRA.
Only N816AA is left flying around without PE and 28J.
N815AA was supposed to go to PAE on 10 April, but looks like it subbed into AA70/71 to FRA instead. I'm guessing it will go up to PAE tonight or tomorrow when it lands from FRA.
Only N816AA is left flying around without PE and 28J.
Apr 11, 2019, 9:38 pm
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Could someone tell me what is going on with these 787 wide body swap outs?
Apr 11, 2019, 10:29 pm
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domestically, PE is sold as MCE. they only sell 20 J seats now, but you could end up with a non reconfigured 788, which means theres 8 J seats now available for upgrade at the gate, but no PE.
Apr 12, 2019, 12:05 am
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There is one 787-8 / 788 in service with J28, N815AA, once N815AA has returned from FRA today and is flown to PAE. See the Wikipost at the top of the page.
All 788s other than N825AA are like https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Am...ng_787-8_A.php.
By the end of the month, there won’t be any 788 28J. And international PE are likely to be for sale. If you can glom a PE seat, they’re the MiQ seat used in the Oasis F/J, with a bit more pitch and recline iirc, for sure grab it.
All 788s other than N825AA are like https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Am...ng_787-8_A.php.
By the end of the month, there won’t be any 788 28J. And international PE are likely to be for sale. If you can glom a PE seat, they’re the MiQ seat used in the Oasis F/J, with a bit more pitch and recline iirc, for sure grab it.