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ARCHIVE: Boeing 787-8 / 788 Premium Economy / PE / PEY progress and seat info

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State of the widebody aircraft Premium Economy retrofit 1st half of 2019

The 787-8 retrofit standardizes 788 seating at C20, W28, Y186 (of which 42 are MCE). Refitting took two weeks per airframe, and two were in the shop at Paine Field at any one time. AA begins selling Premium Economy tickets as if 1 May (if not before) on the 787-8.

787-8 Current Status as of 24 April April 2019: NO J28 788s left in service, refit completed.:

REFIT TO PE: N800AN was the test article / prototype (PAE Sep 2018), N816AA was the last (returned to service 24 Apr 2019).

List of (20) existing Boeing 787-8s: (reg # / fleet #)

N800AN / 8AA (refitted to 20 J seats, Premium Economy - test article)
N801AC / 8AB (refitted)
N802AN / 8AC (refitted)
N803AL / 8AD (refitted)
N804AN / 8AE (refitted)
N805AN / 8AF (refitted)
N806AA / 8AG (refitted)
N807AA / 8AH (refitted)
N808AN / 8AJ (refitted)
N809AA / 8AK (refitted)
N810AN / 8AL (refitted)
N811AB / 8AM (refitted)
N812AA / 8AN (refitted)
N813AN / 8AP (refitted)
N814AA / 8AR (refitted)
N815AA / 8AS (refitted)
N816AA / 8AT (refitted)
N817AN / 8AU (refitted)
N818AL / 8AV (refitted)
N819AN / 8AW (refitted)

Aircraft movement to / from to PAE for retrofitting in 2019:

N810AN to PAE 9 Jan from DFW
N812AA to PAE 11 Jan from DFW
N809AA to PAE 24 Jan from ORD
N812AA back in service 24 Jan
N802AN to PAE 29 Jan from DFW
N810AN back in service 24 Jan
N806AA to PAE 02 Feb
N809AA back in service 03 Feb
N802AN back in service 08 Feb
N803AL to KPAE 8 Feb
N811AB to KPAE 12 Feb
N803AL back in service 18 Feb
N805AN to KPAE 20 Feb
N811AB back in service 23 Feb
N804AN to KPAE 23 Feb
N805AN back in service 28 Feb (to ORD)
N814AN and N817AN to KPAE 4 March (from ORD)
N804AN back in service 4 March (to ORD)
N807AA to KPAE 10 March (from ORD)
N817AN back in service 10 March (to ORD)
N814AN back in service 13 March (to DFW)
N819AN / 8AW to PAE 20 Mar
N807AA back in service 20 March (from DFW)
N813AN back in service 25 March (from DFW)
N808AN to PAE 25 Mar
N819AN back in service 29 March
N818AL to PAE 30 Mar
N801AC to PAE 6 April
N808AN back in service 6 April (to DFW)
N818AL back in service 10 April (to DFW)
N815AA to PAE 11 April
N816AA to PAE 17 April
N801AC to ORD 17 Apr
N815AA to DFW 20 Apr
N816AA to ORD 24 Apr

Thanks to econometrics, b]golfingboy, hawkfan7314,
jvel, rjlon, United857!

Last updated on 24 April 2019

NOTE: There are no J28 - without Premium Economy 788s in service as of 17 April 2019. See (unofficial) American Fleet Site here for fairly current listings..

All Boeing 787-9 have Premium Economy “out of the box”.

All Boeing 777-300ER / 77W have been refitted with Premium Economy

All 777-200ER / 772 All have been refitted with 37 Business seats and have Premium Economy.

All Airbus A330-200s have been refitted with Premium Economy. (A330-300s are ultimately scheduled for retirement and will not be fitted with PE at this time.)

Review of 772 PE by ThePointsGuy HERE. Photos below from ThePointsGuy.

AA Rockwell Collins MiQ Premium Economy seats
(only bulkhead Seats have legrests)

and


See New 777-300 / 77W Config with Premium Economy as of Dec 2017

Link to AA Premium Economy page.

Not being retrofitted with Premium Economy seats:

  • 767-300ER / 763
  • A330-300

AA has begun offering AA (only) Premium Economy awards.

Link to AA press release announcing Premium Economy

Link to virtual PEY experience on aa.com

Link to Ft. Worth Star-Telegram article

Link to Chicago Tribune article

Link to Gary Leff - View from the Wing blog

Link to Australian Business Traveller blog

Link to archived "Speculation" thread.

Older posts from 2018 have been archived and can be read here.

Older posts from 2015-2017 have been archived and can be read here.
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Old Jan 3, 19, 10:29 am
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ARCHIVE: Boeing 787-8 / 788 Premium Economy / PE / PEY progress and seat info

Any updates on the Premium Economy retrofit schedule for the 788s now that we are getting into 2019???

Flying ORD-LHR on the daytime flight in April and have fingers crossed my row 8 seat in MCE becomes a Prem Eco seat.

The current 787-8 seating thread can be found here: Boeing 787-8 / 788 w/ J20, Premium Economy / PE / PEY Discussion (refit completed).

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Old Jan 3, 19, 10:33 am
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Any updates on the Premium Economy retrofit schedule for the 788s now that we are getting into 2019???

Flying ORD-LHR on the daytime flight in April and have fingers crossed my row 8 seat in MCE becomes a Prem Eco seat.
No movement on the remaining 19 788's without PE yet, oddly.

AA certainly plans to have these completed by late spring, however, as I was looking at a DFW-FRA on 1 June the other day, which is in the schedule as a 788 now. It had PE for sale.
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Old Jan 3, 19, 9:44 pm
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Old Jan 4, 19, 12:05 pm
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Does AA actually sell the premium economy seats? I was looking at a DFW-ICN for next month and PE was available seatwise, but not for sale. Didn't appear sold out - just not even an option. It was in March though, showing sold out if it was.

The is the first international trip I've booked in a while and PE didn't even exist, so I'm confused.
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Old Jan 4, 19, 12:11 pm
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It is for sale on routes where AA is scheduling aircraft that will regularly/reliably have the Premium Economy cabins. And it has been for more than a year. @:-)
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Old Jan 4, 19, 12:31 pm
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Does AA actually sell the premium economy seats? I was looking at a DFW-ICN for next month and PE was available seatwise, but not for sale. Didn't appear sold out - just not even an option. It was in March though, showing sold out if it was.

The is the first international trip I've booked in a while and PE didn't even exist, so I'm confused.
I noticed the same thing back in the fall. It's some kind of odd thing AA is doing with PE on certain routes. You can read about it here: Odd revenue management practices emerging?

Someone speculated they were doing this on DFW-XXX longhaul routes, but that if you searched - e.g. - OKC-DFW-ICN, it would come up for sale in W/P class.
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Old Jan 4, 19, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by econometrics View Post
I noticed the same thing back in the fall. It's some kind of odd thing AA is doing with PE on certain routes. You can read about it here: Odd revenue management practices emerging?

Someone speculated they were doing this on DFW-XXX longhaul routes, but that if you searched - e.g. - OKC-DFW-ICN, it would come up for sale in W/P class.
I'll check out that thread. I was actually doing BWI-DFW-ICN, but didn't think the BWI part was relevant.

Could a travel agent book it properly, or is it something I'd have to call AA for?
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Old Jan 4, 19, 12:52 pm
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I'll check out that thread. I was actually doing BWI-DFW-ICN, but didn't think the BWI part was relevant.

Could a travel agent book it properly, or is it something I'd have to call AA for?
If the flight you are looking at is like the flights I was looking at for LHR back in October, then it's W0 P0, which means that AA has 0 PE seats for sale in any fare class. I don't use travel agents to book, but I doubt they would find anything else for you if AA is not offering anything in PE for sale at all.
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Old Jan 4, 19, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by econometrics View Post
If the flight you are looking at is like the flights I was looking at for LHR back in October, then it's W0 P0, which means that AA has 0 PE seats for sale in any fare class. I don't use travel agents to book, but I doubt they would find anything else for you if AA is not offering anything in PE for sale at all.
Yeah, no idea on that. I'll be renewing my EF subscription so that can give a better idea.

If they're not selling it, then how does one get into PE?

Like I said, I don't know what's going on. All I know is I've seen the booking engine give me different results than what I asked for (and it though it was doing me a favor with a cheaper fare ) and even an AAgent couldn't fix it. In fact, the AAgent got completely different results. AA has made it hard for me to give them money at times.
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I see plenty of PE availability the first few weeks of February on both ExpertFlyer and AA.com. There are a couple of days where it looks sold out (e.g., DFW-ICN on 2/8), but I'm not really sure what the problem is.
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Ouch. Flew to Argentina last year from MIA and jumped on PE upgrade for $200. Just booked a flight to BRU and the upgrade to PE is now over $1k.

Looked at upgrades and it’s 25k miles plus $350, biz now $550. Guess becoming Plt Pro for first time only useful domestically.
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Ouch. Flew to Argentina last year from MIA and jumped on PE upgrade for $200. Just booked a flight to BRU and the upgrade to PE is now over $1k.

Looked at upgrades and it’s 25k miles plus $350, biz now $550. Guess becoming Plt Pro for first time only useful domestically.
Its 25k / 350$ to upgrade to Business one way. There is no way to upgrade to PE currently. The 550$ co-pay is for Business to 1st.
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Its 25k / 350$ to upgrade to Business one way. There is no way to upgrade to PE currently. The 550$ co-pay is for Business to 1st.

Hope that is the case. Saw it on this link at Aa.com from my phone.
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Hope that is the case. Saw it on this link at Aa.com from my phone.
Which clearly shows exactly what MorganB said.
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Looks like the 788 PE refit is on. N810AN going to PAE this AM from DFW.
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