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Originally Posted by trach500
(Post 16991023)
As an infrequent flyer on purchased tickets, do you think it's worth the spend/transfer from Gold to Plat? I always travel on miles because I accrue many with business purchases. I am currently 900K miles about from Plat, but I can transfer many SPG points to hit Plat (2m) easily, do you think it's worth it? Is there a major difference between gold & Plat?
The value I would get out of 700,000+ SPG points in such a scenario exceeds the value of 900k AA miles (and/or the value of 900k AA miles+AA Platinum benefits when flying mostly on award tickets). The lounge access can be bought one way or another without doing such a transfer. But that's just me. However, if I were generating 400k+/SPG points a year, then perhaps I'd consider it too if in such a situation. But I'd probably still come back to not doing it for reasons expressed in my prior paragraph. |
Originally Posted by 2tall4economy
(Post 16990829)
All in, they probably lost $100k-$200k of pure gravy from me over the next 18 months.
I assume there's at least 10 other people like me; as such they just took a hit of $1M - $2M on their bottom line because of this. Pretty poor decision making on their part. (Not picking on you specifically, -- yours was the most recent post expressing this sentiment.) |
What about DEQM? I searched the thread and it hasn't been mentioned.
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Originally Posted by jaynyc
(Post 16990958)
For those that are LT PL, other than what I just mentioned, the program change has little impact on us. You still accrue miles for upgrades and free tickets. And in the long run, cuts down on the competition for upgrades. But I do see a loss of business by those who were focused on becoming LT Gold or PL. Not sure how changing the program would increase revenue for AA. People are not going to double or triple their flights to reach LT status, especially if they only have a few hundred thousand LT miles. If only the same kind of "protectiveness" could be said with as much confidence about AA's approach to the value customers get from the AA miles earned from flights for use on flights. |
I also get domestic AA lounge access through my AMEX Platinum as well, so I wouldn't even need to buy a lounge membership Now that I look at it, I'm not so sure it's really worth it. I'm not sure I see any MAJOR differences between gold/plat. I figured I would need to transfer 600K SPG into 800K AA to hit the 2M mark, which would still leave me with a balance of approx 400K SPG.
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Originally Posted by trach500
(Post 16991128)
I also get domestic AA lounge access through my AMEX Platinum as well, so I wouldn't even need to buy a lounge membership Now that I look at it, I'm not so sure it's really worth it. I'm not sure I see any MAJOR differences between gold/plat. I figured I would need to transfer 600K SPG into 800K AA to hit the 2M mark, which would still leave me with a balance of approx 400K SPG.
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Reading through this thread, it is amazing to me how much value people place on lifetime plat and certainly lifetime gold. I mean in my book it really isn't that valuable. Why on earth anyone would, for example, direct $100-$200k of "gravy" AA's way so they can save $25 bag fees?????? C'mon!
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 16991112)
Really? AMR revenue for 2010 was approximately $2 billion. At $1-2 million, you're not even up to a rounding error. If you, even for a minute, entertain the idea that they didn't figure this out and model it in great detail before making the decision, you are mistaken.
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Originally Posted by ma91pmh
(Post 16991239)
Reading through this thread, it is amazing to me how much value people place on lifetime plat and certainly lifetime gold. I mean in my book it really isn't that valuable. Why on earth anyone would, for example, direct $100-$200k of "gravy" AA's way so they can save $25 bag fees?????? C'mon!
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Originally Posted by AAExPlat
(Post 16989515)
Unfortunately I disagree. AA is still an airline. Not a bank. Not a lending institution. They need to make their money flying paying pax.
Car manufacturers make almost no money on their "primary" business of selling new-from-the-factor cars to dealers. They make all their money selling parts and accessories to dealers. Computer printer manufacturers give away their printers at cost in order to sell you profitable ink. Video game console systems are loss leaders and make up on software sales. ...the list goes on... |
Originally Posted by richarddd
(Post 16991244)
You're missing the point. Anything which diminishes benefits, or even hoped for benefits, to FT posters is fatal to AMR's prospects. Next you'll be telling me AMR management has a better idea of how to run an airline than the people on FT.
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Originally Posted by FINASTORY
(Post 16989746)
I have about 300k Marriott points. Is there any good way I can bring them into AA?
Similarly, what is the best way to bring in Hilton points ==> not much, but around 30k points Have about 250k Delta miles, is there any good way to bring them in? Have about 40k United miles, is there any good way to bring them in? |
Originally Posted by jambajuice
(Post 16990530)
AmericanAirline is clear about this in their post. It will not affect current lifetime members.
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Originally Posted by milehound
(Post 16990043)
Your best bet is to check out the Mileage Converter at Webflyer.com
http://www.webflyer.com/programs/mileage_converter/ |
Originally Posted by 2tall4economy
(Post 16990829)
I'm really close to LTG; had a plan to cruise into 1.3/1.4M by year end and hit LTP next year around this time.
Very sad I won't have the chance; but now I'm free to pursue DL (which is better as it has a hub in my hometown unlike AA), and I'll cancel all the things I was working on and will work to get exactly 1M miles. I'll never fly AA again unless it's for work. Dumb gamble on AA's part. In the last 4 hours they've lost (just in 2011): 3 Transpacific/Transatlantic business class paid flights $50k spending with their CC partners (which they get a portion of directly or otherwise) Next year, they'll lose ~6 business class trans-con flights, the fees I would have paid for miles sharing, miles buys, and mileage accelerator buys. And their partners have lost: buy hotel points and convert to miles for 6 hotels credit card annual fees I won't be paying online shopping mall spending which I won't be making "service fees" for using credit cards for online payments all of which result in less miles purchases from AA and lower revenue. All in, they probably lost $100k-$200k of pure gravy from me over the next 18 months. I assume there's at least 10 other people like me; as such they just took a hit of $1M - $2M on their bottom line because of this. Pretty poor decision making on their part. If I do the math, the 3 TPAC tix should be around $30k, the 6 TCONS around $10k and the cc spend nets them about $500 in miles sold (assuming 1 cent per mile). And I think I am being generous about the fare assumptions...all-in, it looks like you are bringing $40k to the table. Nothing to sneer at, but a far cry from $200k in revenue to AA. What am I missing? At the same time, the hundreds of thousands of miles you are not getting, you can also not redeem for F or J awards on CX for example, so AA may easily save a few thousand back of the $40k you took off the table... |
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