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flyinggum Jul 6, 2019 2:41 pm

Currently grounded in jfk due to weather. Was scheduled to make a connection on a separate AA ticket in J at night but looks like I might miss it if I can even get out of jfk by tonight. If I do miss it, will the AA put me on another flight in J at no charge despite of it being a separate ticket?

update: flight cancelled due to weather with almost 3h spent on the tarmac and some DoT regulation according to the cabin crew. No voucher for hotel accommodations for my later flight. No accommodation for the “connecting” flight on the separate record locator either.
update2: what a bummer. apparently the amex plat card doesn't have travel interruption/cancellation insurance...

joepercussion1 Jul 6, 2019 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by flyinggum (Post 31276063)
Currently grounded in jfk due to weather. Was scheduled to make a connection on a separate AA ticket in J at night but looks like I might miss it if I can even get out of jfk by tonight. If I do miss it, will the AA put me on another flight in J at no charge despite of it being a separate ticket?

update: flight cancelled due to weather with almost 3h spent on the tarmac and some DoT regulation according to the cabin crew. No voucher for hotel accommodations for my later flight. No accommodation for the “connecting” flight on the separate record locator either.

AA should back you up to another flight. Provide both records. In the past, I was allowed to forego the connection and was given a direct flight instead, even with 2 records

wanderingstar Jul 6, 2019 8:23 pm

Today we received our "refund" for the rebooking of our AA flight from Rome to Philadelphia to San Francisco to a BA flight through Heathrow leaving a few hours earlier.

They gave us $150 in AA vouchers. We aren't AA members. We never even fly AA. That was possibly the second time I've flown AA in my life.

I don't want AA vouchers. We were told we'd get a "partial refund." Where do they get off calling an AA-only-voucher for a measly $150 a "refund."

Can I contest this somehow or do something else with it?

wanderingstar Jul 6, 2019 8:30 pm


Originally Posted by dls25 (Post 31263973)
Looks like they had to sub a 763 in for a 333.

The 333 must not have been full as there is an 82 seat difference between the two types...

it was completely packed, actually. I think they had multiple flights they were rebooking all crammed onto the plane, not sure, but there were no empty seats that I noticed. Although it was a BA plane, a double-decker one, not one I've flown in before, horribly bumpy in the furthest rear seats where we were seated for about eleven hours. Perhaps the upstairs area or some of first class was empty.

I felt like I was in the movie Snowpiercer back there.

However, BA was a nice carrier with good service and vastly superior to AA, so I'm really not complaining.

AA didn't even have WiFi or any in-flight entertainment outbound for either leg of our flights from SFO-PHL or PHL-FCO, and I overheard them say it had been that way for three days. If I were them, I would have sent someone out with a ukelele or done charades or ANYTHING AT ALL to entertain the flight. It was a blistering 18-odd-hours in the hour.

kr777 Jul 7, 2019 2:14 pm

PHL/NY/Dallas had bad wx yesterday but some MX, I'm sure
7/6 AA680 PHL-SFO 2 hours late
7/6 AA726 PHL-LAX 6 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA758 PHL-ATH 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA64 PHL-TXL 5 hours late
7/6 AA740 PHL-MAD 6 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA718 PHL-FCO 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA92 PHL-ZRH 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA52 PHL-PRG 2.5 hours late
7/6 AA742 PHL-BCN 2 hours late
7/6 AA204 PHL-AMS 2 hours late
7/6 AA736 PHL-LHR almost 6 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA754 PHL-CDG 3 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA88 PHL-SNN 3 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA94 JFK-MAD 2 hours late
7/6 AA953 JFK-EZE 2 hours late
7/6 AA86 ORD-LHR 2 hours late
7/6 AA119 DFW-OGG 3 hours late
7/6 AA229 DFW-KOA 4 hours late
7/6 AA48 DFW-CDG 2 hours late
7/6 AA22 DFW-CDG 2 hours late
7/6 AA945 DFW-SCL 2 hours late
7/6 AA232 DFW-KEF 3 hours late
7/6 AA156 DFW-MAD 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA1570 MIA-SJU 2 hours late
7/6 AA223 MIA-COR 1.5 late before cancelled
7/6 AA995 MIA-GRU 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA265 LAX-LIH 7 hours late

AANYC1981 Jul 7, 2019 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by kr777 (Post 31278956)
PHL/NY/Dallas had bad wx yesterday but some MX, I'm sure
7/6 AA680 PHL-SFO 2 hours late
7/6 AA726 PHL-LAX 6 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA758 PHL-ATH 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA64 PHL-TXL 5 hours late
7/6 AA740 PHL-MAD 6 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA718 PHL-FCO 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA92 PHL-ZRH 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA52 PHL-PRG 2.5 hours late
7/6 AA742 PHL-BCN 2 hours late
7/6 AA204 PHL-AMS 2 hours late
7/6 AA736 PHL-LHR almost 6 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA754 PHL-CDG 3 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA88 PHL-SNN 3 hours late before cancelled
7/6 AA94 JFK-MAD 2 hours late
7/6 AA953 JFK-EZE 2 hours late
7/6 AA86 ORD-LHR 2 hours late
7/6 AA119 DFW-OGG 3 hours late
7/6 AA229 DFW-KOA 4 hours late
7/6 AA48 DFW-CDG 2 hours late
7/6 AA22 DFW-CDG 2 hours late
7/6 AA945 DFW-SCL 2 hours late
7/6 AA232 DFW-KEF 3 hours late
7/6 AA156 DFW-MAD 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA1570 MIA-SJU 2 hours late
7/6 AA223 MIA-COR 1.5 late before cancelled
7/6 AA995 MIA-GRU 1.5 hours late
7/6 AA265 LAX-LIH 7 hours late

Disgraceful....

AlwaysAisle Jul 7, 2019 2:47 pm

AA2116 DCA-BOS, scheduled departure 5:30 p.m., not posted delayed and 6:15 p.m. departure. However, incoming aircraft AA 2115 LGA-DCA and delayed and currently posted as arrival at DCA on 7:35 p.m. Alright..., see when I will get out DCA. Thunderstorm forecasted after 3 p.m. at D.C. area but looks good so far.

Abidjan Jul 7, 2019 5:29 pm

Weather held here in DC, so hope you made it out.

AlwaysAisle Jul 7, 2019 6:20 pm

The incoming aircraft did not make to DCA, now posting 9:21 departure. :(

All flights were booked due to holiday weekend, AAngle looked up connecting ar LGA, PHL, ORD, CLT, etc. but none available. AAngle double booked me on 9:00 departure flight 2150, and upgrade just cleared! :) Going home finally.

kr777 Jul 8, 2019 2:24 pm

Yesterday
7/7 AA175 DFW-NRT 7 hours late
7/7 AA24 DFW-MUC 8 hours late before cancelled
7/7 AA20 DFW-LHR 2 hours late
7/7 AA945 DFW-SCL 13.5 hours late overnighted left 7/8
7/7 AA1307 MIA-LIM 5 hours late
7/7 AA112 MIA-BCN 8 hours late before cancelled
7/7 AA38 MIA-LHR 3.5 hours late
7/7 AA585 MIA-UIO 4 hours late
7/7 AA995 MIA-GRU 12 hours late overnighted left 7/8
7/7 AA989 MIA-MVD 13 hours late overnighted left 7/8
7/7 AA953 JFK-EZE 2 hours late
7/7 AA130 PHL-BLQ 4 hours late
7/7 AA722 PHL-DUB 2 hours late
7/7 AA728 PHL-LHR 1.5 hours late
7/7 AA1417 ORD-CUN (787) 5.5 hours late
7/7 AA86 ORD-LHR 1.5 hours late
7/7 AA40 ORD-BCN 3 hours late
7/7 AA194 PHX-LHR 2.5 hours late
Already Today 7/8, PHL-BCN and PHL-CDG cancelled

fastflyer Jul 8, 2019 2:36 pm

Friend is sitting on tarmac at PBI after a diversion on AA207, Milan MXP to Miami MIA -- they landed 3 hours ago and will not take them to a gate. Current scheduled diversion make-up flight from PBI to MIA (20 minutes at most) is not for 3 more hours.

I thought the Northwest Detroit tarmac rule meant that passengers had to be deplaned after three hours. Does that not apply to international flights? PBI does have daily Bahamas service, so there should be some on-duty Customs and Immigration folks.

wrp96 Jul 8, 2019 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by fastflyer (Post 31282757)
Friend is sitting on tarmac at PBI after a diversion on AA207, Milan MXP to Miami MIA -- they landed 3 hours ago and will not take them to a gate. Current scheduled diversion make-up flight from PBI to MIA (20 minutes at most) is not for 3 more hours.

I thought the Northwest Detroit tarmac rule meant that passengers had to be deplaned after three hours. Does that not apply to international flights? PBI does have daily Bahamas service, so there should be some on-duty Customs and Immigration folks.

Are the Bahamas flights from Nassau? If so that's a preclearance airport.

The tarmac rule has different requirements for domestic vs. international. For international it's 4 hours, subject to certain exceptions.

Biggie Fries Jul 8, 2019 5:31 pm


Originally Posted by kr777 (Post 31282715)
Already Today 7/8, PHL-BCN and PHL-CDG cancelled

For PHL-CDG (AA754), that's twice in last three nights.

Does anyone have access to Flight Aware for longer lookbacks? I hate to exaggerate, but I swear that it is averaging >1 cancellation per week since I started watching late May, and I am curious as to how much greater than one per week (one-and-a-half?).... not to mention the return flight AA755 taking a long trip to nowhere (return to CDG) not that long ago.

kr777 Jul 8, 2019 6:49 pm


Originally Posted by Biggie Fries (Post 31283249)
For PHL-CDG (AA754), that's twice in last three nights.

Does anyone have access to Flight Aware for longer lookbacks? I hate to exaggerate, but I swear that it is averaging >1 cancellation per week since I started watching late May, and I am curious as to how much greater than one per week (one-and-a-half?).... not to mention the return flight AA755 taking a long trip to nowhere (return to CDG) not that long ago.

Since mid-May
AA754 PHL-CDG cancelled 5/21, 5/26, 6/10, 6/15, 7/6, 7/8
and delayed over 2 hours- 5/12, 5/17, 5/25, 6/11, 6/16, 7/2

Another interesting example
AA40 ORD-BCN cancelled- 6/12, 6/20
but chronically delayed as its one of last 787 departures >2 hours late- 5/18, 5/19, 5/22, 5/25, 5/28, 5/30, 5/31, 6/2, 6/9, 6/11, 6/15, 6/17, 6/18, 6/23, 6/25, 6/26, 6/27, 6/28, 6/30, 7/1, 7/7

GlobalMatt Jul 8, 2019 8:21 pm

AA 6154 / BA 193 codeshare from LHR-DFW on 25 JUL 2019 at 3:40pm has been cancelled. This has been verified by calls to BA, AA and additionally verified on ExpertFlyer.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8d2fb68f9d.png


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