Admiral's Club plan for DTW: what happened?

Old Jan 15, 19, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981 View Post
Same could be said for MCO/IAH/DEN/SNA etc.....doesn’t need to be a connection city to qualify for an AC.
No, but a carrier does need a decent volume of traffic ti justify a club and AA gave up on DTW long ago. After Delta, the biggest operating carriers at DTW are Skywest, Spirit, Endeavor, and Southwest. AA and its RJ carriers get dumped into the less-than-20% 'other'.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme View Post
No, but a carrier does need a decent volume of traffic ti justify a club and AA gave up on DTW long ago. After Delta, the biggest operating carriers at DTW are Skywest, Spirit, Endeavor, and Southwest. AA and its RJ carriers get dumped into the less-than-20% 'other'.
and AA at DEN is above 20% with UA/Southwest/Frontier etc?
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Old Jan 15, 19, 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981 View Post
and AA at DEN is above 20% with UA/Southwest/Frontier etc?
DEN is a joint club with BA, which changes the economics some.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge View Post
Give me Vegas. Has to be the highest volume airport without an AC.
This is probably relevant:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29263728-post4.html

This list of clubs and stations with their flight statistics is from June 2017. Looks like Vegas has only 1 other airport busier than it without an Admirals Club: Columbus/CMH
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28380060-post13.html


Originally Posted by AAerSTL
Sunday, June 4, 2017:
  1. AA DFW 761 (CLUB)
  2. AA CLT 662 (CLUB)
  3. AA ORD 474 (CLUB)
  4. AA PHL 384 (CLUB)
  5. AA MIA 340 (CLUB)
  6. AA PHX 292 (CLUB)
  7. AA DCA 235 (CLUB)
  8. AA LAX 208 (CLUB)
  9. AA LGA 141 (CLUB)
  10. AA JFK 97 (CLUB)
  11. AA BOS 85 (CLUB)
  12. AA SFO 53 (CLUB)
  13. AA MCO 52 (CLUB)
  14. AA RDU 52 (CLUB)
  15. AA CMH 47
  16. AA ATL 46 (CLUB)
  17. AA BNA 46 (CLUB)
  18. AA LAS 45
  19. AA PIT 43 (CLUB)
  20. AA STL 40 (CLUB)
  21. AA IND 39
  22. AA DTW 38
  23. AA DEN 36 (CLUB)
  24. AA TPA 36 (CLUB)
  25. AA IAH 35 (CLUB)
  26. AA SAN 34 (CLUB - CONTRACT)
  27. AA SEA 33 (CLUB)
  28. AA AUS 32 (CLUB)
  29. AA CVG 32
  30. AA CLE 31
list from last summer of cities with clubs and their ranking of passenger numbers, showing the cities that lacked clubs but had high numbers of passengers too.
Overall the thread was about a possible club in Vegas
Speculation: Any plans for LAS / Vegas Admirals Club?
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Old Jan 15, 19, 7:08 pm
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One thing on DTW, although it is 38 daily, only CLT and DFW get more than 1 mainline
5x DFW (5x 738)
7x ORD (1x 319, 6x CR7)
6x LGA (5x E135, 1xE75)
5x CLT (2x 319, 1x E75, 1x CR9)
4x PHL (1x 319, 1x E75, 1x CR7, 1x E145)
3x DCA (1x E75, 1x CR9, 1x CR7)
2x MIA (1x 319, 1z 738)
2x PHX (1x 319, 1x 320)

Compare to say AUS which is lower count, but with a club
11x DFW mix of 32S and 738
8x CLT mix of 319, 320, 321
4x ORD all 738
4x MIA (3x 738, 1x 319)
3x LAX 738 or 321
3x PHX 319 or 320
2x JFK 738
2x PHL E190

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Old Jan 15, 19, 7:23 pm
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[QUOTE=autdi;30659593]One thing on DTW, although it is 38 daily, only CLT and DFW get more than 1 mainline
5x DFW (5x 738)
7x ORD (1x 319, 6x CR7)
6x LGA (5x E135, 1xE75)
5x CLT (2x 319, 1x E75, 1x CR9)
4x PHL (1x 319, 1x E75, 1x CR7, 1x E145)
3x DCA (1x E75, 1x CR9, 1x CR7)
2x MIA (1x 319, 1z 738)
2x PHX (1x 319, 1x 320)

you forgot MIA and PHX
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Old Jan 15, 19, 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by LovePrunes View Post
This is probably relevant:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29263728-post4.html

This list of clubs and stations with their flight statistics is from June 2017. Looks like Vegas has only 1 other airport busier than it without an Admirals Club: Columbus/CMH
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28380060-post13.html



list from last summer of cities with clubs and their ranking of passenger numbers, showing the cities that lacked clubs but had high numbers of passengers too.
Overall the thread was about a possible club in Vegas
Speculation: Any plans for LAS / Vegas Admirals Club?
LOL....where is SNA? Another BA lounge? :/
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981 View Post
LOL....where is SNA? Another BA lounge? :/
A legacy from HP.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981 View Post


LOL....where is SNA? Another BA lounge? :/
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A legacy from HP.
Um no, SNA has had an AC for as long as I have flown out of it which began in 1997. HP never had a lounge at SNA, the only lounges at SNA have been UA and AA and both are still there.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 9:47 pm
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HP never had a lounge at SNA
Yes it did. The SNA America West Club opened in 1990 concurrent with the (then) new terminal. It is now the AC.

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Old Jan 15, 19, 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Tanic View Post
Yes it did. The SNA America West Club opened in 1990 concurrent with the (then) new terminal. It is now the AC.
Huh did not know that..curious when did that change I recall the AC being there back in 97 and HP was still flying out of SNA then.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 11:34 pm
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when did that change I recall the AC being there back in 97 and HP was still flying out of SNA then.
HP had out station clubs in HNL, SNA, and LAX. SNA lasted til about 96. That was about the same time that Parker showed up and started chopping things.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 5:06 am
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Currently sitting inn the "food court" near Gate 30 @DTW. While it'd be great to be sitting in an A/C I just don't see the value in putting one in from AA's standpoint. Been here a lot over the last 18 months and there just isn't the base to support it.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 6:09 am
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I do travel to DTW quite a bit, so from a personal standpoint I'd love to have an AC there. But I can't imagine the economics would justify it unless BA returned to the market. The LH lounge is laughable foodwise for the hours its open to PP members.

Travelers to DTW tip -- go to National Coney Island. Order a hani sandwich and cheese fries. Thank me later. And then call your cardiologist.
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