tonytifao

With so many flights in and out of Vegas, do you think we will ever see AA build an Admirals Club in Vegas?

nrr

Few pax connect through LAS--but LGA probably doesn't have too many connections either, but the population base is MUCH larger.
With Amex Centurion and Priority Pass "Club", I doubt AA will open an AC.

AANYC1981

This site is terrible for mobile web so this is my THIRD try to reply but the answer is not gonna happen.

LovePrunes

This list of clubs and stations with their flight statistics is from last June. Looks like Vegas has only 1 other airport busier than it without an Admirals Club: Columbus/CMH
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28380060-post13.html

Originally Posted by AAerSTL
Sunday, June 4, 2017:

1. AA DFW 761 (CLUB)
2. AA CLT 662 (CLUB)
3. AA ORD 474 (CLUB)
4. AA PHL 384 (CLUB)
5. AA MIA 340 (CLUB)
6. AA PHX 292 (CLUB)
7. AA DCA 235 (CLUB)
8. AA LAX 208 (CLUB)
9. AA LGA 141 (CLUB)
10. AA JFK 97 (CLUB)
11. AA BOS 85 (CLUB)
12. AA SFO 53 (CLUB)
13. AA MCO 52 (CLUB)
14. AA RDU 52 (CLUB)
15. AA CMH 47
16. AA ATL 46 (CLUB)
17. AA BNA 46 (CLUB)
18. AA LAS 45
19. AA PIT 43 (CLUB)
20. AA STL 40 (CLUB)
21. AA IND 39
22. AA DTW 38
23. AA DEN 36 (CLUB)
24. AA TPA 36 (CLUB)
25. AA IAH 35 (CLUB)
26. AA SAN 34 (CLUB - CONTRACT)
27. AA SEA 33 (CLUB)
28. AA AUS 32 (CLUB)
29. AA CVG 32
30. AA CLE 31

sdsearch

Vegas is a strange airport, they prefer that people hang out at the slot machines all over the airport (and lose money) than go to lounges (and do something other than gamble away their money). So it may be that Las Vegas airport discourages lounges?

Keep in mind, an airline can't build a lounge on its own. The airport has to agree to it.

Plus, it's one of the airports with the most leisure (and the least business) fliers. But lounges are more for business travelers. Once you factor that in, it probably drops way down the list.

LovePrunes

That said, MCO, another heavy leisure market, just (re-) opened a club. Lot of biz conventions in MCI( oops MCO)and LAS. Who knows.
I'd be happy if they can just get the club's coke machine replaced in Denver, but more locations would always be nice.

writerguyfl

Orlando's Convention Center is actually larger than the one in Las Vegas. Orlando has 2.1 million square feet of exhibition space and 480,000 square feet of function (meeting rooms) space. Las Vegas has 2 million square feet of exhibition space and 250,000 square feet of meeting space. Sources (if anybody cares):

Orlando: Why Choose the Orange County Convention Center? | Visit Orlando
Las Vegas: Las Vegas Convention Center | LVCVA

Orlando has been actively fighting their image of being "just a theme park" town for a long time. I'd bet that sdsearch's comments relating to how each airport authority feels about airline lounges is probably in play. I'd guess that MCO's leadership would eagerly welcome a lounge but LAS would be less enthusiastic.

aztimm

Back in the HP days, and for a little bit after the HP-US merger, there was a lounge at LAS. However, it was outside of security...which of course meant that you needed to plan time for security, then getting to the gate. The HP then US gates were in an older part of the terminal, near where WN is now, almost directly above the check-in desks. Not sure what has become of the space that was the lounge.

I thought there was a lounge at CMH back in the day too, as it was another HP hub, but I can't find anything concrete about that.

LovePrunes

While the convention center itself may be 5% larger in Orlando, from your stats, I'd venture to say there is far more convention space in Vegas than Orlando considering hotel ballrooms outside of what is offered in the actual convention center at either location. Meaning I would bet there is more convention business travel into Vegas than Orlando, but I have no data, just a hunch. Regardless, it's good that MCO has a club again, and perhaps Admirals Clubs will once again start to grow in numbers. Vegas should be somewhere on the top 5 of most likely to get one if and when they start to add again. To an airport, it's a matter of leasing space at a price per square foot. If they aren't constrained on gates I don't see why the airport would say no if AA or anyone else waned to put in a club and pay their price..

formeraa

I can confirm that there was an HP Club at CMH (it was the old TW club) on the B concourse.

mvoight

Yes, after DL has one

LovePrunes

is the old CMH club in the "bump out" part of the terminal in this screen cap from google maps? If so, looks like it's a gate now, as it has a jet bridge attached. it's in the right place on the map from the former TWA club which became the HP club.
Clearly it's much easier to get a club if there is existing square footage that can me remodeled rather than added to an existing exterior of a building.



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wb8iny

The "bump out" is the special gate/holding area that Columbus built for Skybus, after America West left the market. A great investment, I think they lasted a year. The America West (and TWA) club was in the main terminal, I used it many times as a loyal TWA flyer. About the same location.
I now spend my time on Delta in terminal C, with no club access.........

Vegas Vegan

Friend works at Clark County Aviation Dept (management). There is absolutely no more room available to put anybody's lounge.

As for the slot machines ... urban myth. Plenty of people go to the airport and don't play. Non-casino slot machines are owned by the slot routes companies. LAS is just another stop on the route, same as the grocery stores, gas stations, bars and other non-casino locations.

Just wait. Major 600K sq ft expansion is underway in Las Vegas.

https://www.lvccdistrict.com/
Las Vegas Convention Center District | Las Vegas CVA

Vegas Vegan

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