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Chances of Upgrade Request Clearing
NOTE: Be aware of recent (20 May 2017) upgrade priority changes."New Upgrade Priority as of 20 May 2017
(Upgrades were prioritized by elite status and then time of request until 20 May 2017)
Elite status
- Concierge Key
- Executive Platinum
- Platinum Pro
- Platinum
- Gold
Upgrade type
- Miles and copay award upgrades and systemwide upgrades (SWU)
- 500 mile upgrades on purchased tickets
- 500 mile upgrades on upgrade eligible awards)
Then, by
- Elite qualifying dollars in the past 12 months (rolling)
- Booking class
- Time of request
See Upgrade Priority Changes to Status, Rolling 365 Day EQD Spend May 20 2017
Link to Gary Leff, View From the Wing 16 May 2017
ARCHIVE: Chances of Upgrade Clearing and Availability (2019 master thread)
#691
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: The FT AA forum, until it no longer wants me.
Programs: CK or bust
Posts: 1,913
Get on the phone ASAP and ask them to confirm you right away if you C3 for that segment
#692
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,483
But C is not the relevant inventory if you're just looking for your EXP complimentary sticker/500mi/UDU upgrade (that is R, not viewable on EF with regards to upgrade space). Those can clear anytime from 100 hrs before right up to the gate. Even with a lot of seats open up front, it's very common for AA to wait till the day of departure before releasing any comp/sticker upgrade space.
#693
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Portland, OR.
Programs: AA PPro
Posts: 606
I'm EXP flying LAX-JFK on July 4 and it was constantly showing J7, woke up Sunday morning, T-4 and got upgraded very early in the window. Must be an algorithm that said, Nah no one else is going to buy this flight. Still it is a 321B and happy for the upgrade and Flagship lounge on both ends.
#694
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CLT
Programs: AA EXP; Avis PC; Hertz PC; Marriott LT Gold; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,133
C is the relevant inventory if you are looking to upgrade with a SWU or miles/copay. So if you're waitlisted for one of those, give AA a call and ask them to process the upgrade.
But C is not the relevant inventory if you're just looking for your EXP complimentary sticker/500mi/UDU upgrade (that is R, not viewable on EF with regards to upgrade space). Those can clear anytime from 100 hrs before right up to the gate. Even with a lot of seats open up front, it's very common for AA to wait till the day of departure before releasing any comp/sticker upgrade space.
But C is not the relevant inventory if you're just looking for your EXP complimentary sticker/500mi/UDU upgrade (that is R, not viewable on EF with regards to upgrade space). Those can clear anytime from 100 hrs before right up to the gate. Even with a lot of seats open up front, it's very common for AA to wait till the day of departure before releasing any comp/sticker upgrade space.
#695
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Mass
Programs: Independent
Posts: 4,829
Ah, I always thought it pulled from C inventory!
#696
Join Date: Sep 2015
Programs: AA Exp
Posts: 2
I have tried to find a similar situation on here, so my apologies if this has been covered. I was already waitlisted on AA108 from LAX-LHR on January 15, hoping to use my final SWU for 2019. Due to all of this inventory opening up, I cleared a few days ago. I got no email, I was just in the record for something else and I noticed that I had been moved to business with no seat assignment, so I grabbed a seat. Usually it says something like "we can't show the flight details right now etc", but not this time, The record looks totally normal, just in business on that leg. I have never cleared really far out like this on LAX-LHR. My record still shows the upgrade as "requested" and they have not deducted an SWU from my account. It has been about a week. Has anyone else ever experienced this?
#697
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 24
The record looks totally normal, just in business on that leg. I have never cleared really far out like this on LAX-LHR. My record still shows the upgrade as "requested" and they have not deducted an SWU from my account. It has been about a week. Has anyone else ever experienced this?
#698
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Santa Barbara, CA, Park City, UT
Programs: AA EXP, Delta Plat, Marriott Plat,Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat
Posts: 902
I wanted to provide some feedback on C space opening up ahead of time from US to LHR. I had created many alerts in Expert Flyer to get from LAX/DFW/PHX across the pond to various spots in Europe. These were in the MId September to early November range and ideally I wanted to go LAX to LHR(only because it's the only NS) using my SWUs.
Surprisingly space opened LHR-LAX in early Nov. so I booked pretty cheap($575) RT econ tickets and applied 2 SWUs to the return that was showing space. In retrospect I wish I hadn't gotten so impatient, hopefully we don't have issues in late Oct getting the upgrades as well LAX-LHR.....what are the odds I won't?
What I've noticed is DFW to LHR RT space has become very plentiful for 2 or more seats various dates Oct 1-mid-early November. I'd say half of the days in the range have at one point or another showed space. Daily the last week or so I've had notices from Expertflyer on this. Also had a few LAX to LHR or LHR to LAX pop up, in fact a LAX to LHR two days prior to my current reservation. I inquired with the rep about changing, if they'd waive the change fees, of course they wouldn't budge. Thought about paying it anyway and changing the ticket but they talked me out of it, that I wouldn't have a problem closer to the date of the flight.
It's just too bad I wasn't more patient, could have gone from home airport SBA-Santa Barbara to Dallas then onto LHR for the same cost. Other routes that showed some well ahead of time availability were DFW to FRA(quite a bit, as much as to LHR) and some DFW to MAD and back although that was just a few days. I'd have never thought flying out of DFW would be the easiest way to use the SWUs
Surprisingly space opened LHR-LAX in early Nov. so I booked pretty cheap($575) RT econ tickets and applied 2 SWUs to the return that was showing space. In retrospect I wish I hadn't gotten so impatient, hopefully we don't have issues in late Oct getting the upgrades as well LAX-LHR.....what are the odds I won't?
What I've noticed is DFW to LHR RT space has become very plentiful for 2 or more seats various dates Oct 1-mid-early November. I'd say half of the days in the range have at one point or another showed space. Daily the last week or so I've had notices from Expertflyer on this. Also had a few LAX to LHR or LHR to LAX pop up, in fact a LAX to LHR two days prior to my current reservation. I inquired with the rep about changing, if they'd waive the change fees, of course they wouldn't budge. Thought about paying it anyway and changing the ticket but they talked me out of it, that I wouldn't have a problem closer to the date of the flight.
It's just too bad I wasn't more patient, could have gone from home airport SBA-Santa Barbara to Dallas then onto LHR for the same cost. Other routes that showed some well ahead of time availability were DFW to FRA(quite a bit, as much as to LHR) and some DFW to MAD and back although that was just a few days. I'd have never thought flying out of DFW would be the easiest way to use the SWUs
#700
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gatwick, UK
Programs: UA *G, BA Silver
Posts: 1,673
On 6/21 one of the BA flights was cancelled (the 789, probably because of RR engine issue) and flights were already quite well-booked, so it isn't surprising that everything filled up and upgrade and standby lists were long.
#701
Join Date: May 2017
Location: San Francisco
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 369
Do any FT members here have any anecdotal experience with Y to J upgrades on the 77W LAX-HND flight? I've done the trip a few times on the 789 and have either been able to upgrade at booking or the waitlist cleared 1+ mo in advance. Doing it for the first time on a 77W in October and am wondering if anybody has had to wait until boarding or didn't clear entirely. 15 or so seats taken this far out, J7 R7 D7 I7.
#702
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: PHL
Programs: HH Lifetime Diamond, AA EXP, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 586
Looking to gain some insights if any are out there - I want to travel (2 of us) from PHL --> NRT in April 2020 using SWU's.
I am flexible on outbound travel days, can be Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday - any one better than the other
Any return day of the week particularly any better?
Is there a gateway that I am more likely to clear out of (assuming I can't find C availability), I am leaving from PHL - so have to connect (DFW/LAX/ORD - any better?)
Has this historically been a tough get, or an easy clear?
Thanks all
I am flexible on outbound travel days, can be Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday - any one better than the other
Any return day of the week particularly any better?
Is there a gateway that I am more likely to clear out of (assuming I can't find C availability), I am leaving from PHL - so have to connect (DFW/LAX/ORD - any better?)
Has this historically been a tough get, or an easy clear?
Thanks all
#703
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,586
OMA-LAX: E75, Saturday morning, complimentary cleared at 100 hours
LAX-HND, 77W, Saturday morning, Y-->J, miles+copay, cleared around 30 hours (waitlisted 5 days before departure).
Saturday morning during a holiday weekend, so not exactly a typical business travel day. But had to be in Tokyo for Monday morning meetings - so flying Saturday it is.
LAX-HND, 77W, Saturday morning, Y-->J, miles+copay, cleared around 30 hours (waitlisted 5 days before departure).
Saturday morning during a holiday weekend, so not exactly a typical business travel day. But had to be in Tokyo for Monday morning meetings - so flying Saturday it is.
#704
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: San Diego
Programs: Plat Pro AAdvantage, but defected to BAEC
Posts: 1,222
I can’t recall if it was this particular thread, or some other, but someone pointed out that numerous LAX-LHR and return were showing J7 for a large number of days early next year. I took a look last week and found that Feb and March were pretty wide open on most days of the week, April was still decent and things began to dry up pretty rapidly in May.
I took a look for flights around Easter and saw J4 for the Saturday before Easter for the outbound and J7 for the following weekend and the rest of that week on the return. I booked the 11th of April through April 19 in Y and called in to request a miles and copay upgrade to J. The call agent expressed surprise that there was availability that far out and processed the upgrades for me.
I’ve never had anything clear that far in advance and have never been able to book a flight with guaranteed availability before.
I took a look for flights around Easter and saw J4 for the Saturday before Easter for the outbound and J7 for the following weekend and the rest of that week on the return. I booked the 11th of April through April 19 in Y and called in to request a miles and copay upgrade to J. The call agent expressed surprise that there was availability that far out and processed the upgrades for me.
I’ve never had anything clear that far in advance and have never been able to book a flight with guaranteed availability before.
#705
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: KHOU/KIAH
Programs: AA EXP | Marriott Bonvoy Titanium| Hyatt Globalist
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Interesting data point- am #6 on MIA-DFW. Which was surprising as an EXP with >25k rolling spend on a holiday weekend. Flight was J0 when booked, ended up in full fare Y somehow on this segment.
Nbd since it is a 772 and I have a PE window but was surprised to be this far down on a typically high volume leisure travel day (although there are probably EXP and CKs taking leisure trips too)
Nbd since it is a 772 and I have a PE window but was surprised to be this far down on a typically high volume leisure travel day (although there are probably EXP and CKs taking leisure trips too)