Jan 6, 2019, 2:14 pm
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ARCHIVE: 2017 HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver Award Availability - Help, Assistance & Discussion
The current thread can be read here.
The current thread can be read here.
Some of you might have found your thread merged into this "consolidated" thread. If your desire is to become thoroughly familiar with the knowledge that has been accumulated about the process for acquiring MileSAAver awards feel free to read this entire thread. If you only want the assistance from those who have the knowledge your request has been merged at the end. Feel free to wait for a forthcoming answer.
If you have reached this thread by using the search process you have the same choices as above. Read the thread and become knowledgeable or post at the end and wait for a forthcoming answer.
thanks
~magic111
If you have reached this thread by using the search process you have the same choices as above. Read the thread and become knowledgeable or post at the end and wait for a forthcoming answer.
thanks
~magic111
NOTE: for more detailed fare rules, see AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (master thd)
Awards can generally be held for five days; five day extensions require continued availability of your flights and generating a new award booking and five day hold.
Though AA can start releasing awards 331 days from the desired flight date (even though some other airlines might make award seats available to their members 355 days out), it’s very likely award seats may be released a few days after that. If seats aren’t sold and Revenue Management algorithms signify slow sales, more seats might be released going forward.
Airlines that can be booked for award travel on aa.com
oneworld alliance airline partners other airline partners
oneworld alliance airline partners
- AA - American Airlines
- BA - British Airways (awards incur significant YQ surcharge)
- AY - Finnair
- IB - Iberia
- QF - Qantas
- QR - Qatar Airways
- RJ - Royal Jordanian Airlines
- S7 - S7 Airlines
- UL - Sri Lankan Airlines
- 9K - Cape Air (but only certain cities)
- TN - Air Tahiti Nui
- AS - Alaska Airlines
- EY - Etihad
- HA - Hawaiian Airlines
All others must be requested by telephone; see Note below.
NOTE: To search for partner awards, go to advanced search from the awards search or home page and select all airlines.
Full list of oneworld airline partners (and their affiliates)
- AA - American Airlines
- BA - British Airways (Cityflyer, Comair, OpenSkies, Sun-Air of Scandinavia)
- CX - Cathay Pacific (Dragonair)
- AY -Finnair (Flybe)
- IB - Iberia (Air Nostrum, Iberia Express)
- JL - Japan Airlines (JAL Express, J-Air, Japan Transocean Air)
- LA- LAN Airlines (LAN Argentina, LAN Ecuador, LAN Express, LAN Colombia, LAN Peru only, merging with JJ to LATAM)
- MH - Malaysia Airlines
- QF - Qantas Airways (QantasLink, Jetconnect)
- QR - Qatar Airways
- RJ - Royal Jordanian Airlines
- S7 - S7 Airlines (Globus) (excludes Siberia / far eastern Russia awards)
- UL - SriLankan Airlines
- JJ - TAM Airlines (merging with LA to LATAM)
When you do call, you might want to search for award space on the flights you want and tell the agent about those flights; sometimes AA agents won't find award seats unless they search by segment.
When using other airline web sites or tools to search for award availability, it’s best to do so by segment rather than by trip. E. g. BA May show availability SAN-LHR and LHR-AMS, but not SAN-AMS. And in some instances (EY, FJ, etc.) AA US may not see availability that AA Australia or New Zealand might see.
Full list of additional airline partners offering award redemptions
- TN - Air Tahiti Nui
- AS - Alaska Airlines/Horizon Air
- 9K - Cape Air
- EY - Etihad Airways
- FJ - Fiji Airways
- GF - Gulf Air
- HA - Hawaiian Airlines
NOTE: Ticketing charge
Effective February 16, 2015, a Reservations Ticketing Service Charge of $30.00 for domestic itineraries and $40.00 for international itineraries will be applied by AA Reservations when ticketing award reservations that can be booked on aa.com. The charge is waived for award reservations that cannot be booked on aa.com including reduced mileage awards, and for Executive Platinums. N.B. Executive Platinums booking award for non-EP will pay the service charges.
Code:
oneworld Partners Award Fare Codes First-Business-Economy -------------------------------------------------------- AA - American Airlines Z U T -------------------------------------------------------- AY – Finnair U X -------------------------------------------------------- BA – British Airways Z U X -------------------------------------------------------- CX – Cathay Pacific Z U T KA - DragonAir -------------------------------------------------------- IB – Iberia U X -------------------------------------------------------- JL – Japan Airlines (Intl) Z U T JL – Japan Airlines (Dom) Z D S -------------------------------------------------------- LATAM Group JJ - TAM Airlines O I X LA – LAN Chile Z U T XL - LAN Ecuador LP - LAN Peru 4M - LAN Argentina -------------------------------------------------------- MH - Malaysia Airlines P U X -------------------------------------------------------- QF - QANTAS Airways P U X -------------------------------------------------------- QR - Qatar Airways Z U X -------------------------------------------------------- RJ – Royal Jordanian U X -------------------------------------------------------- S7 – S7 Airlines U E -------------------------------------------------------- UL - SriLankan Airlines -------------------------------------------------------- Other Partners First Business Economy -------------------------------------------------------- FJ – Fiji Airways U X -------------------------------------------------------- TN – Air Tahiti Nui F for Business U for Economy -------------------------------------------------------- AS – Alaska Airlines A W -------------------------------------------------------- LY – El Al Israel P X E -------------------------------------------------------- EY - Etihad O I N -------------------------------------------------------- HA – Hawaiian Airlines D T --------------------------------------------------------
Other rules that may affect your awards:
Award Rules
American Airlines Awards are valid for travel on flights that are marketed and operated by AA (no codeshares). These awards can be booked online at AA.com.
oneworld and Other Airline awards are valid for travel on AA and any of its partner airlines, and can include travel on multiple partners. Many of these awards must be booked over the phone, and will not incur a Ticketing Service Charge (waived for EXPs in any case) if they cannot be booked online.
Up to four one-way awards can be booked on a single PNR. Codeshares are not bookable as Awards.
MPM or Maximum Permitted Miles: A Fare or award may not exceed the most direct routing by more than 25% (unless the fare routing includes a ticketed point deduction (essentially a miles allowance that extends MPM). See MPM / Maximum Permitted Mileage & Ticketed Point Deductions (merged threads).
Stopovers and Connections
Stopovers are no longer allowed on AA awards. Stopovers will require multiple awards.
Connections are limited to two connections / three flight segments for domestic awards, and three connections / four flight segments for international awards as of Aug 2017. Link
Domestic Connections must be under 4 hours for domestic flights, with some exceptions: "LIFO" (Last In - First Out connections are generally allowed.
Hawaii itinerary: Effective on 14 Jul 2014 on an all-AA-metal award itinerary, you now have up to 18 hours to connect when traveling to/from Hawaii. NOTE: Hawaii interisland connections must be separate awards and can not be included as part of a mainland-island award.
International Connections must generally not exceed 23:59 hours. Some leeway has occasionally been granted when connecting flights are not daily. If the itinerary includes an international flight, the rules for international connections apply. Link to these courtesy of JonNYC.
If there is a non-stop flight that departs after the 4h / 23h59m windows and arrives at the destination earlier than a connecting flight within the 4h / 23h59m window, the passenger may be booked on the non-stop flight. It may be difficult getting some agents to book this.
"Most Significant Carrier" rule: To price as a single award, AAdvantage requires the most significant carrier to publish a cash fare (non-constructed) between the origin and destination. Airline MSC (e.g. DFW-SFO-HKG-BKK, CX SFO-HKG is the prevailing or most significant carrier) would have to have a published fare from XXX to YYY that allows travel on all included airlines, and routing that you want. If the MSC only offers constructed fares between your desired origin and destination, AA will price this as two awards.
Constructed fares: Another rule disallows awards where the fare must be constructed (also referred to as "YY"): Using a partner, the trip will require two awards if the governing carrier (e,g. airline operating on the major route, such as transpacific carrier) doesn't publish a through fare that includes the award's proposed origin and destination that allows the carriers proposed.
See this thread about examples using TN.
Married Segment Logic - a prospective trip may be available when searching segment by segment, yet not be bookable through from origin to destination. When selling seats for through flights and the desired inventory is not available, you cannot opt to sell the flight point-to-point. If sold point-to-point, the error response MULTIPLE SEGMENTS FOR SAME FLIGHT - SELL AS ONE SEGMENT will be received, indicating this booking is not allowed. Overriding the error check by ending the PNR twice is not acceptable.
See Award with available segments not bookable? (Married Segment issues)
Award Rules
American Airlines Awards are valid for travel on flights that are marketed and operated by AA (no codeshares). These awards can be booked online at AA.com.
oneworld and Other Airline awards are valid for travel on AA and any of its partner airlines, and can include travel on multiple partners. Many of these awards must be booked over the phone, and will not incur a Ticketing Service Charge (waived for EXPs in any case) if they cannot be booked online.
Up to four one-way awards can be booked on a single PNR. Codeshares are not bookable as Awards.
MPM or Maximum Permitted Miles: A Fare or award may not exceed the most direct routing by more than 25% (unless the fare routing includes a ticketed point deduction (essentially a miles allowance that extends MPM). See MPM / Maximum Permitted Mileage & Ticketed Point Deductions (merged threads).
Stopovers and Connections
Stopovers are no longer allowed on AA awards. Stopovers will require multiple awards.
Connections are limited to two connections / three flight segments for domestic awards, and three connections / four flight segments for international awards as of Aug 2017. Link
Domestic Connections must be under 4 hours for domestic flights, with some exceptions: "LIFO" (Last In - First Out connections are generally allowed.
Hawaii itinerary: Effective on 14 Jul 2014 on an all-AA-metal award itinerary, you now have up to 18 hours to connect when traveling to/from Hawaii. NOTE: Hawaii interisland connections must be separate awards and can not be included as part of a mainland-island award.
International Connections must generally not exceed 23:59 hours. Some leeway has occasionally been granted when connecting flights are not daily. If the itinerary includes an international flight, the rules for international connections apply. Link to these courtesy of JonNYC.
If there is a non-stop flight that departs after the 4h / 23h59m windows and arrives at the destination earlier than a connecting flight within the 4h / 23h59m window, the passenger may be booked on the non-stop flight. It may be difficult getting some agents to book this.
"Most Significant Carrier" rule: To price as a single award, AAdvantage requires the most significant carrier to publish a cash fare (non-constructed) between the origin and destination. Airline MSC (e.g. DFW-SFO-HKG-BKK, CX SFO-HKG is the prevailing or most significant carrier) would have to have a published fare from XXX to YYY that allows travel on all included airlines, and routing that you want. If the MSC only offers constructed fares between your desired origin and destination, AA will price this as two awards.
Constructed fares: Another rule disallows awards where the fare must be constructed (also referred to as "YY"): Using a partner, the trip will require two awards if the governing carrier (e,g. airline operating on the major route, such as transpacific carrier) doesn't publish a through fare that includes the award's proposed origin and destination that allows the carriers proposed.
See this thread about examples using TN.
Married Segment Logic - a prospective trip may be available when searching segment by segment, yet not be bookable through from origin to destination. When selling seats for through flights and the desired inventory is not available, you cannot opt to sell the flight point-to-point. If sold point-to-point, the error response MULTIPLE SEGMENTS FOR SAME FLIGHT - SELL AS ONE SEGMENT will be received, indicating this booking is not allowed. Overriding the error check by ending the PNR twice is not acceptable.
See Award with available segments not bookable? (Married Segment issues)
Resources
Some airlines or areas have different, extra or special characteristics for securing awards. See
aa.com Basic (front page) vs Advanced Award Search Results (abbreviated results for front page search vs. Advanced award search)
AAdvantage awards to / from Australia, New Zealand link
AAdvantage awards to the Galápagos Islands, Ecuador link
AAdvantage awards on Air Tahiti Nui link
AAdvantage awards using British Airways incurring (avoiding) high fees link
AAdvantage award on Cathay Pacific (and Cathay Dragon) link
AAdvantage awards using Etihad Airways link
AAdvantage awards using Fiji Airways link
AAdvantage awards using Japan Airlines link
AAdvantage awards using Qantas Airways link
AAdvantage awards on S7 (Siberian) Airlines link
aa.com Basic (front page) vs Advanced Award Search Results (abbreviated results for front page search vs. Advanced award search)
AAdvantage awards to / from Australia, New Zealand link
AAdvantage awards to the Galápagos Islands, Ecuador link
AAdvantage awards on Air Tahiti Nui link
AAdvantage awards using British Airways incurring (avoiding) high fees link
AAdvantage award on Cathay Pacific (and Cathay Dragon) link
AAdvantage awards using Etihad Airways link
AAdvantage awards using Fiji Airways link
AAdvantage awards using Japan Airlines link
AAdvantage awards using Qantas Airways link
AAdvantage awards on S7 (Siberian) Airlines link
Awards assistance tools: Use at your own risk; may not be up to date. These are not recommendations.
- Check this oneworld interactive map and timetable by Innosked to see potential routes.
- British Airways Executive Club: You can sign up for British Airways Executive Club, Japan Airlines JAL Mileage Bank or Qantas Frequent Flyer to use their sites to find awards (look for the lowest level awards) you can't see on aa.com. BA in particular is prone to show "phantom" availability.
- Award booking services - list and reviews (FT thread)
- Award Nexus: It's easy to do your experiments for some free browsing (click "more signup options" under the green Purchase button to sign up with your FlyerTalk login info). You might want to run each segment rather than origin to destination.
...Award Nexus is free (up to a point) for FlyerTalk users. Click "more signup options" under the green Purchase button to sign up for free as a FlyerTalk member.
What I like about Award Nexus is it has a much nicer user interface than BA and lets you choose whether to search through BA and/or QF, and as you can see each of those may give somewhat different results.
The "cost" to do all these searches once was a total of 12 points, and you get 200 points free when you signup, and then every 90 days you can reload 100 more points for free (once you're below 10 points). So that gives an idea of how many searches could do free...
- AwardAce: Compare Award Redemptions Across Airlines In Seconds
- AwardHacker: "a tool we build to tell you how to travel with the least miles"
- Award Nexus: which can search availability but can't determine cost, with FT member free limited use
- Economical Excursionist's Tools: compare Frequent Flyer Mile Redemptions
- ExpertFlyer is a common tool used on FT. There is a $99.99 annual fee, monthly fee and five day trial
- Great Circle Mapper is useful for calculating distance and MPM (Maximum Permitted Mileage)
- You can try PEX+ (currently in beta), which will even tell you how many miles you'll need, though it draws data from aa.com and S7 so it can't reveal awards that can not be seen on those sites.
- Travel Codex Award Maximiser commercial blog
Also see:
aa.com Basic (front page) vs Advanced Award Search Results
Phantom / false AA award availability with AA partners (consolidated)
oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
Help with British Airways / BA surcharge / YQ (AA award on BA, consolidated) (Awards using BA incur significant "YQ" surcharges.)
UK APD / Air Passenger Duty charged for UK departures[/quote] (Flights originating in the UK other than INV or BFS - or connections 24:00 or over - incur UK Air Passenger Duty excise taxes.)
MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction / scarcity >= Aug 2011 onward (consolidated)
Older posts from 2017 have been archived to: this archive thread
Older posts from 2016 have been archived to: this archive thread
Older posts through 2015 have been archived to: this archive thread
ARCHIVE: 2017 HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
Sep 5, 2017, 11:18 pm
#902
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: UA, AA, Delta, Virgin, AC
Posts: 13
I'm trying to book 4 one-way flights from Germany (say, Berlin, but exactly where doesn't matter) to SFO/SJC around July 30-31-August-1-2 using AA miles, and I'd like to avoid going through LHR/LCY/LGW for taxes reasons. I thought Finnair through HEL would make sense, but I'm seeing a lot of availability for biz/first, but nothing for economy. (And I've got enough kids that the miles won't stretch to going biz/first.) Any ideas what's up with that? Am I just out of luck?
Alternatively, other suggestions for non-London-transit flights that might be worth investigating? I've tried various search solutions (AwardNexus, QA/BA/AA etc) and I'm not finding things.
Your sage advice welcomed!
EDIT: I'm seeing this on all sorts of flights Europe-SFO or SJC. Econ availability on BA through London, biz on Finnair through Helsinki. Frankfurt, AMS, DUS, VIE, CDG, all over the place. Weird?
Alternatively, other suggestions for non-London-transit flights that might be worth investigating? I've tried various search solutions (AwardNexus, QA/BA/AA etc) and I'm not finding things.
Your sage advice welcomed!
EDIT: I'm seeing this on all sorts of flights Europe-SFO or SJC. Econ availability on BA through London, biz on Finnair through Helsinki. Frankfurt, AMS, DUS, VIE, CDG, all over the place. Weird?
Last edited by josakana; Sep 5, 2017 at 11:43 pm Reason: More widespread than I had thought.
Sep 5, 2017, 11:18 pm
#903
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: UA, AA, Delta, Virgin, AC
Posts: 13
I'm trying to book 4 one-way flights from Germany (say, Berlin, but exactly where doesn't matter) to SFO/SJC around July 30-31-August-1-2 using AA miles, and I'd like to avoid going through LHR/LCY/LGW for taxes reasons. I thought Finnair through HEL would make sense, but I'm seeing a lot of availability for biz/first, but nothing for economy. (And I've got enough kids that the miles won't stretch to going biz/first.) Any ideas what's up with that? Am I just out of luck?
Alternatively, other suggestions for non-London-transit flights that might be worth investigating? I've tried various search solutions (AwardNexus, QA/BA/AA etc) and I'm not finding things.
Your sage advice welcomed!
EDIT: I'm seeing this on all sorts of flights Europe-SFO or SJC. Econ availability on BA through London, biz on Finnair through Helsinki. Frankfurt, AMS, DUS, VIE, CDG, all over the place. Weird?
Alternatively, other suggestions for non-London-transit flights that might be worth investigating? I've tried various search solutions (AwardNexus, QA/BA/AA etc) and I'm not finding things.
Your sage advice welcomed!
EDIT: I'm seeing this on all sorts of flights Europe-SFO or SJC. Econ availability on BA through London, biz on Finnair through Helsinki. Frankfurt, AMS, DUS, VIE, CDG, all over the place. Weird?
Sep 6, 2017, 4:01 am
#904
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,483
I'm trying to book 4 one-way flights from Germany (say, Berlin, but exactly where doesn't matter) to SFO/SJC around July 30-31-August-1-2 using AA miles, and I'd like to avoid going through LHR/LCY/LGW for taxes reasons. I thought Finnair through HEL would make sense, but I'm seeing a lot of availability for biz/first, but nothing for economy. (And I've got enough kids that the miles won't stretch to going biz/first.) Any ideas what's up with that? Am I just out of luck?
Alternatively, other suggestions for non-London-transit flights that might be worth investigating? I've tried various search solutions (AwardNexus, QA/BA/AA etc) and I'm not finding things.
Your sage advice welcomed!
EDIT: I'm seeing this on all sorts of flights Europe-SFO or SJC. Econ availability on BA through London, biz on Finnair through Helsinki. Frankfurt, AMS, DUS, VIE, CDG, all over the place. Weird?
Alternatively, other suggestions for non-London-transit flights that might be worth investigating? I've tried various search solutions (AwardNexus, QA/BA/AA etc) and I'm not finding things.
Your sage advice welcomed!
EDIT: I'm seeing this on all sorts of flights Europe-SFO or SJC. Econ availability on BA through London, biz on Finnair through Helsinki. Frankfurt, AMS, DUS, VIE, CDG, all over the place. Weird?
For example, a FRA-DFW-SFO award on AA has $123 in taxes/fees, while a FRA-LHR-DFW-SFO award will be $155 using BA just for FRA-LHR.
That said, what you're looking for should be easily doable, especially in economy, but this far out you're going to need to be flexible and get creative for 4 seats. Book 1 or 2 seats on a good routing, the other 2 on something else, then continue to monitor things and switch flights together as better options open up.
Sep 6, 2017, 4:01 am
#905
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,483
I'm trying to book 4 one-way flights from Germany (say, Berlin, but exactly where doesn't matter) to SFO/SJC around July 30-31-August-1-2 using AA miles, and I'd like to avoid going through LHR/LCY/LGW for taxes reasons. I thought Finnair through HEL would make sense, but I'm seeing a lot of availability for biz/first, but nothing for economy. (And I've got enough kids that the miles won't stretch to going biz/first.) Any ideas what's up with that? Am I just out of luck?
Alternatively, other suggestions for non-London-transit flights that might be worth investigating? I've tried various search solutions (AwardNexus, QA/BA/AA etc) and I'm not finding things.
Your sage advice welcomed!
EDIT: I'm seeing this on all sorts of flights Europe-SFO or SJC. Econ availability on BA through London, biz on Finnair through Helsinki. Frankfurt, AMS, DUS, VIE, CDG, all over the place. Weird?
Alternatively, other suggestions for non-London-transit flights that might be worth investigating? I've tried various search solutions (AwardNexus, QA/BA/AA etc) and I'm not finding things.
Your sage advice welcomed!
EDIT: I'm seeing this on all sorts of flights Europe-SFO or SJC. Econ availability on BA through London, biz on Finnair through Helsinki. Frankfurt, AMS, DUS, VIE, CDG, all over the place. Weird?
For example, a FRA-DFW-SFO award on AA has $123 in taxes/fees, while a FRA-LHR-DFW-SFO award will be $155 using BA just for FRA-LHR.
That said, what you're looking for should be easily doable, especially in economy, but this far out you're going to need to be flexible and get creative for 4 seats. Book 1 or 2 seats on a good routing, the other 2 on something else, then continue to monitor things and switch flights together as better options open up.
Sep 14, 2017, 12:10 pm
#906
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: AA EXP, National Exec
Posts: 86
Looking to book 4 pax ORD-LHR next year July 24 +/-1 Business Class MileSaaver. I have 230,000 (57,500x4) stashed away for this. Advise & answers to any of the following will be much appreciated!
Right now it looks like BA is the only choice. I have a hold for 4 pax on BA294 non-stop with fees of $506/pax. I have walked the hold forward a few times. Ques. 1: Should I walk a hold every day or take a chance and wait the five days each time?
I have worked on this for a couple of weeks now, including reading a lot here at FT, looking on AA.com, checking Award Nexus and I bought a prem sub to EF.
There is an IB ORD-MAD-LHR (although not for 4 currently) with fees of 114/pax. Ques. 2: Is it worth saving~$400/pax for the headache of a stopover in MAD? Ques. 3: Is IB's TATL business product much better than BA's and worth the stopover?
Ques. 4: Do I have a stones chance in heck of finding 4 U awards on AA (non-stop or stopover) before next summer?
BA294 is a 5:30pm-7:20am flt. Ques. 5: Is that timing a mistake since I've read its better to arrive Europe from USA later in the day in terms of jetlag? There is BA296 8:40pm-10:25am, but I read that flt has BA sleeper service with no meal. I'm thinking my family would be starving by breakfast. Thoughts?
I have seen availability earlier in next summer for AA90 9:05am-10:45pm. Ques. 6: Is that a better arrival time? Ques. 7: Hubby sez it's better to fly overnight to Europe - is he right?
I am asking all this so I am better prepared to ticket my hold if I find I can't keep walking 4 forward.
My only experience flying to Europe was 10 years ago ORD-BCN, although back then there was no non-stop on any airline ORD-BCN, so we booked 6 of us in F on LOT via Warsaw for $875 each (bargain, yes?). Flight was 5 hours late leaving ORD, so we missed connection in WAW. They flew us WAW-FRA-BCN on Lufthansa. Made it to BCN, but our luggage didn't. WAW decided to hold it until next days connecting LOT flt to BCN. Boarded our cruise, then debarked to go to BCN and get luggage ourselves before the ship's departure. Aunt's duffel & contents arrived soaking wet. Rest of vaca was wonderful!
I tell you this so you can see I am a bit gunshy traveling to Europe again and am being semi-OCD over our flt next year because of that kerfuffle back in 2007!!!
Right now it looks like BA is the only choice. I have a hold for 4 pax on BA294 non-stop with fees of $506/pax. I have walked the hold forward a few times. Ques. 1: Should I walk a hold every day or take a chance and wait the five days each time?
I have worked on this for a couple of weeks now, including reading a lot here at FT, looking on AA.com, checking Award Nexus and I bought a prem sub to EF.
There is an IB ORD-MAD-LHR (although not for 4 currently) with fees of 114/pax. Ques. 2: Is it worth saving~$400/pax for the headache of a stopover in MAD? Ques. 3: Is IB's TATL business product much better than BA's and worth the stopover?
Ques. 4: Do I have a stones chance in heck of finding 4 U awards on AA (non-stop or stopover) before next summer?
BA294 is a 5:30pm-7:20am flt. Ques. 5: Is that timing a mistake since I've read its better to arrive Europe from USA later in the day in terms of jetlag? There is BA296 8:40pm-10:25am, but I read that flt has BA sleeper service with no meal. I'm thinking my family would be starving by breakfast. Thoughts?
I have seen availability earlier in next summer for AA90 9:05am-10:45pm. Ques. 6: Is that a better arrival time? Ques. 7: Hubby sez it's better to fly overnight to Europe - is he right?
I am asking all this so I am better prepared to ticket my hold if I find I can't keep walking 4 forward.
My only experience flying to Europe was 10 years ago ORD-BCN, although back then there was no non-stop on any airline ORD-BCN, so we booked 6 of us in F on LOT via Warsaw for $875 each (bargain, yes?). Flight was 5 hours late leaving ORD, so we missed connection in WAW. They flew us WAW-FRA-BCN on Lufthansa. Made it to BCN, but our luggage didn't. WAW decided to hold it until next days connecting LOT flt to BCN. Boarded our cruise, then debarked to go to BCN and get luggage ourselves before the ship's departure. Aunt's duffel & contents arrived soaking wet. Rest of vaca was wonderful!
I tell you this so you can see I am a bit gunshy traveling to Europe again and am being semi-OCD over our flt next year because of that kerfuffle back in 2007!!!
Sep 14, 2017, 12:10 pm
#907
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: AA EXP, National Exec
Posts: 86
Looking to book 4 pax ORD-LHR next year July 24 +/-1 Business Class MileSaaver. I have 230,000 (57,500x4) stashed away for this. Advise & answers to any of the following will be much appreciated!
Right now it looks like BA is the only choice. I have a hold for 4 pax on BA294 non-stop with fees of $506/pax. I have walked the hold forward a few times. Ques. 1: Should I walk a hold every day or take a chance and wait the five days each time?
I have worked on this for a couple of weeks now, including reading a lot here at FT, looking on AA.com, checking Award Nexus and I bought a prem sub to EF.
There is an IB ORD-MAD-LHR (although not for 4 currently) with fees of 114/pax. Ques. 2: Is it worth saving~$400/pax for the headache of a stopover in MAD? Ques. 3: Is IB's TATL business product much better than BA's and worth the stopover?
Ques. 4: Do I have a stones chance in heck of finding 4 U awards on AA (non-stop or stopover) before next summer?
BA294 is a 5:30pm-7:20am flt. Ques. 5: Is that timing a mistake since I've read its better to arrive Europe from USA later in the day in terms of jetlag? There is BA296 8:40pm-10:25am, but I read that flt has BA sleeper service with no meal. I'm thinking my family would be starving by breakfast. Thoughts?
I have seen availability earlier in next summer for AA90 9:05am-10:45pm. Ques. 6: Is that a better arrival time? Ques. 7: Hubby sez it's better to fly overnight to Europe - is he right?
I am asking all this so I am better prepared to ticket my hold if I find I can't keep walking 4 forward.
My only experience flying to Europe was 10 years ago ORD-BCN, although back then there was no non-stop on any airline ORD-BCN, so we booked 6 of us in F on LOT via Warsaw for $875 each (bargain, yes?). Flight was 5 hours late leaving ORD, so we missed connection in WAW. They flew us WAW-FRA-BCN on Lufthansa. Made it to BCN, but our luggage didn't. WAW decided to hold it until next days connecting LOT flt to BCN. Boarded our cruise, then debarked to go to BCN and get luggage ourselves before the ship's departure. Aunt's duffel & contents arrived soaking wet. Rest of vaca was wonderful!
I tell you this so you can see I am a bit gunshy traveling to Europe again and am being semi-OCD over our flt next year because of that kerfuffle back in 2007!!!
Right now it looks like BA is the only choice. I have a hold for 4 pax on BA294 non-stop with fees of $506/pax. I have walked the hold forward a few times. Ques. 1: Should I walk a hold every day or take a chance and wait the five days each time?
I have worked on this for a couple of weeks now, including reading a lot here at FT, looking on AA.com, checking Award Nexus and I bought a prem sub to EF.
There is an IB ORD-MAD-LHR (although not for 4 currently) with fees of 114/pax. Ques. 2: Is it worth saving~$400/pax for the headache of a stopover in MAD? Ques. 3: Is IB's TATL business product much better than BA's and worth the stopover?
Ques. 4: Do I have a stones chance in heck of finding 4 U awards on AA (non-stop or stopover) before next summer?
BA294 is a 5:30pm-7:20am flt. Ques. 5: Is that timing a mistake since I've read its better to arrive Europe from USA later in the day in terms of jetlag? There is BA296 8:40pm-10:25am, but I read that flt has BA sleeper service with no meal. I'm thinking my family would be starving by breakfast. Thoughts?
I have seen availability earlier in next summer for AA90 9:05am-10:45pm. Ques. 6: Is that a better arrival time? Ques. 7: Hubby sez it's better to fly overnight to Europe - is he right?
I am asking all this so I am better prepared to ticket my hold if I find I can't keep walking 4 forward.
My only experience flying to Europe was 10 years ago ORD-BCN, although back then there was no non-stop on any airline ORD-BCN, so we booked 6 of us in F on LOT via Warsaw for $875 each (bargain, yes?). Flight was 5 hours late leaving ORD, so we missed connection in WAW. They flew us WAW-FRA-BCN on Lufthansa. Made it to BCN, but our luggage didn't. WAW decided to hold it until next days connecting LOT flt to BCN. Boarded our cruise, then debarked to go to BCN and get luggage ourselves before the ship's departure. Aunt's duffel & contents arrived soaking wet. Rest of vaca was wonderful!
I tell you this so you can see I am a bit gunshy traveling to Europe again and am being semi-OCD over our flt next year because of that kerfuffle back in 2007!!!
Sep 14, 2017, 12:29 pm
#908
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Looking to book 4 pax ORD-LHR next year July 24 +/-1 Business Class MileSaaver. I have 230,000 (57,500x4) stashed away for this. Advise & answers to any of the following will be much appreciated!
Right now it looks like BA is the only choice. I have a hold for 4 pax on BA294 non-stop with fees of $506/pax. I have walked the hold forward a few times. Ques. 1: Should I walk a hold every day or take a chance and wait the five days each time?
I have worked on this for a couple of weeks now, including reading a lot here at FT, looking on AA.com, checking Award Nexus and I bought a prem sub to EF.
There is an IB ORD-MAD-LHR (although not for 4 currently) with fees of 114/pax. Ques. 2: Is it worth saving~$400/pax for the headache of a stopover in MAD? Ques. 3: Is IB's TATL business product much better than BA's and worth the stopover?
Ques. 4: Do I have a stones chance in heck of finding 4 U awards on AA (non-stop or stopover) before next summer?
BA294 is a 5:30pm-7:20am flt. Ques. 5: Is that timing a mistake since I've read its better to arrive Europe from USA later in the day in terms of jetlag? There is BA296 8:40pm-10:25am, but I read that flt has BA sleeper service with no meal. I'm thinking my family would be starving by breakfast. Thoughts?
I have seen availability earlier in next summer for AA90 9:05am-10:45pm. Ques. 6: Is that a better arrival time? Ques. 7: Hubby sez it's better to fly overnight to Europe - is he right?
I am asking all this so I am better prepared to ticket my hold if I find I can't keep walking 4 forward.
My only experience flying to Europe was 10 years ago ORD-BCN, although back then there was no non-stop on any airline ORD-BCN, so we booked 6 of us in F on LOT via Warsaw for $875 each (bargain, yes?). Flight was 5 hours late leaving ORD, so we missed connection in WAW. They flew us WAW-FRA-BCN on Lufthansa. Made it to BCN, but our luggage didn't. WAW decided to hold it until next days connecting LOT flt to BCN. Boarded our cruise, then debarked to go to BCN and get luggage ourselves before the ship's departure. Aunt's duffel & contents arrived soaking wet. Rest of vaca was wonderful!
I tell you this so you can see I am a bit gunshy traveling to Europe again and am being semi-OCD over our flt next year because of that kerfuffle back in 2007!!!
Right now it looks like BA is the only choice. I have a hold for 4 pax on BA294 non-stop with fees of $506/pax. I have walked the hold forward a few times. Ques. 1: Should I walk a hold every day or take a chance and wait the five days each time?
I have worked on this for a couple of weeks now, including reading a lot here at FT, looking on AA.com, checking Award Nexus and I bought a prem sub to EF.
There is an IB ORD-MAD-LHR (although not for 4 currently) with fees of 114/pax. Ques. 2: Is it worth saving~$400/pax for the headache of a stopover in MAD? Ques. 3: Is IB's TATL business product much better than BA's and worth the stopover?
Ques. 4: Do I have a stones chance in heck of finding 4 U awards on AA (non-stop or stopover) before next summer?
BA294 is a 5:30pm-7:20am flt. Ques. 5: Is that timing a mistake since I've read its better to arrive Europe from USA later in the day in terms of jetlag? There is BA296 8:40pm-10:25am, but I read that flt has BA sleeper service with no meal. I'm thinking my family would be starving by breakfast. Thoughts?
I have seen availability earlier in next summer for AA90 9:05am-10:45pm. Ques. 6: Is that a better arrival time? Ques. 7: Hubby sez it's better to fly overnight to Europe - is he right?
I am asking all this so I am better prepared to ticket my hold if I find I can't keep walking 4 forward.
My only experience flying to Europe was 10 years ago ORD-BCN, although back then there was no non-stop on any airline ORD-BCN, so we booked 6 of us in F on LOT via Warsaw for $875 each (bargain, yes?). Flight was 5 hours late leaving ORD, so we missed connection in WAW. They flew us WAW-FRA-BCN on Lufthansa. Made it to BCN, but our luggage didn't. WAW decided to hold it until next days connecting LOT flt to BCN. Boarded our cruise, then debarked to go to BCN and get luggage ourselves before the ship's departure. Aunt's duffel & contents arrived soaking wet. Rest of vaca was wonderful!
I tell you this so you can see I am a bit gunshy traveling to Europe again and am being semi-OCD over our flt next year because of that kerfuffle back in 2007!!!
Honestly, your chance of securing four MileSAAver Business awards on the same flights is not very good. You might seriously consider 2 on one flight set, 2 on another. This will save you headaches and stress of finding four on one, but if two more do become available, changing is no problem and generally without fees.
Now:
IB has a significantly better product than BA, with all solo suites and no clambering over others. IMO I'd rather fly IB; though the connection does add some pain, saving $400 p/p and the better, newer product is definitely worth it.
Timing is really a personal preference. Not to mention SAAver seekers can't be choosers, so forget about what others say. Dine on the ground in the ORD Flagship Lounge, sleep on board, stay active spend some afternoon time in the sun the day of arrival, drop a sublingual Melatonin prior to bedtime and I'm up automagically at 6:00 am, as I am at home.
Flying to Europe isn't statistically worse than flying elsewhere, AFAIK. Things can happen, but generally won't. Build some buffer time so baggage, etc. catches up to you on a cruise situation - I use a minimum of a full day buffer, sometimes longer.
BTW, if you fly back from other than the U.K. / LHR, you'll save the U.K. Air Passenger Duty on those award Business tickets. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html.
Sep 14, 2017, 12:29 pm
#909
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Looking to book 4 pax ORD-LHR next year July 24 +/-1 Business Class MileSaaver. I have 230,000 (57,500x4) stashed away for this. Advise & answers to any of the following will be much appreciated!
Right now it looks like BA is the only choice. I have a hold for 4 pax on BA294 non-stop with fees of $506/pax. I have walked the hold forward a few times. Ques. 1: Should I walk a hold every day or take a chance and wait the five days each time?
I have worked on this for a couple of weeks now, including reading a lot here at FT, looking on AA.com, checking Award Nexus and I bought a prem sub to EF.
There is an IB ORD-MAD-LHR (although not for 4 currently) with fees of 114/pax. Ques. 2: Is it worth saving~$400/pax for the headache of a stopover in MAD? Ques. 3: Is IB's TATL business product much better than BA's and worth the stopover?
Ques. 4: Do I have a stones chance in heck of finding 4 U awards on AA (non-stop or stopover) before next summer?
BA294 is a 5:30pm-7:20am flt. Ques. 5: Is that timing a mistake since I've read its better to arrive Europe from USA later in the day in terms of jetlag? There is BA296 8:40pm-10:25am, but I read that flt has BA sleeper service with no meal. I'm thinking my family would be starving by breakfast. Thoughts?
I have seen availability earlier in next summer for AA90 9:05am-10:45pm. Ques. 6: Is that a better arrival time? Ques. 7: Hubby sez it's better to fly overnight to Europe - is he right?
I am asking all this so I am better prepared to ticket my hold if I find I can't keep walking 4 forward.
My only experience flying to Europe was 10 years ago ORD-BCN, although back then there was no non-stop on any airline ORD-BCN, so we booked 6 of us in F on LOT via Warsaw for $875 each (bargain, yes?). Flight was 5 hours late leaving ORD, so we missed connection in WAW. They flew us WAW-FRA-BCN on Lufthansa. Made it to BCN, but our luggage didn't. WAW decided to hold it until next days connecting LOT flt to BCN. Boarded our cruise, then debarked to go to BCN and get luggage ourselves before the ship's departure. Aunt's duffel & contents arrived soaking wet. Rest of vaca was wonderful!
I tell you this so you can see I am a bit gunshy traveling to Europe again and am being semi-OCD over our flt next year because of that kerfuffle back in 2007!!!
Right now it looks like BA is the only choice. I have a hold for 4 pax on BA294 non-stop with fees of $506/pax. I have walked the hold forward a few times. Ques. 1: Should I walk a hold every day or take a chance and wait the five days each time?
I have worked on this for a couple of weeks now, including reading a lot here at FT, looking on AA.com, checking Award Nexus and I bought a prem sub to EF.
There is an IB ORD-MAD-LHR (although not for 4 currently) with fees of 114/pax. Ques. 2: Is it worth saving~$400/pax for the headache of a stopover in MAD? Ques. 3: Is IB's TATL business product much better than BA's and worth the stopover?
Ques. 4: Do I have a stones chance in heck of finding 4 U awards on AA (non-stop or stopover) before next summer?
BA294 is a 5:30pm-7:20am flt. Ques. 5: Is that timing a mistake since I've read its better to arrive Europe from USA later in the day in terms of jetlag? There is BA296 8:40pm-10:25am, but I read that flt has BA sleeper service with no meal. I'm thinking my family would be starving by breakfast. Thoughts?
I have seen availability earlier in next summer for AA90 9:05am-10:45pm. Ques. 6: Is that a better arrival time? Ques. 7: Hubby sez it's better to fly overnight to Europe - is he right?
I am asking all this so I am better prepared to ticket my hold if I find I can't keep walking 4 forward.
My only experience flying to Europe was 10 years ago ORD-BCN, although back then there was no non-stop on any airline ORD-BCN, so we booked 6 of us in F on LOT via Warsaw for $875 each (bargain, yes?). Flight was 5 hours late leaving ORD, so we missed connection in WAW. They flew us WAW-FRA-BCN on Lufthansa. Made it to BCN, but our luggage didn't. WAW decided to hold it until next days connecting LOT flt to BCN. Boarded our cruise, then debarked to go to BCN and get luggage ourselves before the ship's departure. Aunt's duffel & contents arrived soaking wet. Rest of vaca was wonderful!
I tell you this so you can see I am a bit gunshy traveling to Europe again and am being semi-OCD over our flt next year because of that kerfuffle back in 2007!!!
Honestly, your chance of securing four MileSAAver Business awards on the same flights is not very good. You might seriously consider 2 on one flight set, 2 on another. This will save you headaches and stress of finding four on one, but if two more do become available, changing is no problem and generally without fees.
Now:
IB has a significantly better product than BA, with all solo suites and no clambering over others. IMO I'd rather fly IB; though the connection does add some pain, saving $400 p/p and the better, newer product is definitely worth it.
Timing is really a personal preference. Not to mention SAAver seekers can't be choosers, so forget about what others say. Dine on the ground in the ORD Flagship Lounge, sleep on board, stay active spend some afternoon time in the sun the day of arrival, drop a sublingual Melatonin prior to bedtime and I'm up automagically at 6:00 am, as I am at home.
Flying to Europe isn't statistically worse than flying elsewhere, AFAIK. Things can happen, but generally won't. Build some buffer time so baggage, etc. catches up to you on a cruise situation - I use a minimum of a full day buffer, sometimes longer.
BTW, if you fly back from other than the U.K. / LHR, you'll save the U.K. Air Passenger Duty on those award Business tickets. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html.
Sep 15, 2017, 12:17 pm
#910
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: AA EXP, National Exec
Posts: 86
You've read the Wikipost at the top of the page for the hints on finding awards on other one world airline partners, right?
Honestly, your chance of securing four MileSAAver Business awards on the same flights is not very good. You might seriously consider 2 on one flight set, 2 on another. This will save you headaches and stress of finding four on one, but if two more do become available, changing is no problem and generally without fees.
Now:
IB has a significantly better product than BA, with all solo suites and no clambering over others. IMO I'd rather fly IB; though the connection does add some pain, saving $400 p/p and the better, newer product is definitely worth it.
Timing is really a personal preference. Not to mention SAAver seekers can't be choosers, so forget about what others say. Dine on the ground in the ORD Flagship Lounge, sleep on board, stay active spend some afternoon time in the sun the day of arrival, drop a sublingual Melatonin prior to bedtime and I'm up automagically at 6:00 am, as I am at home.
Flying to Europe isn't statistically worse than flying elsewhere, AFAIK. Things can happen, but generally won't. Build some buffer time so baggage, etc. catches up to you on a cruise situation - I use a minimum of a full day buffer, sometimes longer.
BTW, if you fly back from other than the U.K. / LHR, you'll save the U.K. Air Passenger Duty on those award Business tickets. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html.
Honestly, your chance of securing four MileSAAver Business awards on the same flights is not very good. You might seriously consider 2 on one flight set, 2 on another. This will save you headaches and stress of finding four on one, but if two more do become available, changing is no problem and generally without fees.
Now:
IB has a significantly better product than BA, with all solo suites and no clambering over others. IMO I'd rather fly IB; though the connection does add some pain, saving $400 p/p and the better, newer product is definitely worth it.
Timing is really a personal preference. Not to mention SAAver seekers can't be choosers, so forget about what others say. Dine on the ground in the ORD Flagship Lounge, sleep on board, stay active spend some afternoon time in the sun the day of arrival, drop a sublingual Melatonin prior to bedtime and I'm up automagically at 6:00 am, as I am at home.
Flying to Europe isn't statistically worse than flying elsewhere, AFAIK. Things can happen, but generally won't. Build some buffer time so baggage, etc. catches up to you on a cruise situation - I use a minimum of a full day buffer, sometimes longer.
BTW, if you fly back from other than the U.K. / LHR, you'll save the U.K. Air Passenger Duty on those award Business tickets. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html.
I hate to book 2+2, as it is my family traveling together: Mom, Dad & 2 'kids' (15&21). We'd prefer to live the adventure together. Thank you for the suggestion!
I have now looked into IB U and it does get great reviews, especially as compared to BA! But wouldn't you know it, the seats available yesterday are now gone. So I will hope they come back.
There are 3 options for the IB MAD-LHR segment, so if I pick the middle one and there are connection issues, hopefully we could get on that next flt a few hours later.
Yes, this is a pre-cruise flt, but we don't embark until the weekend, so plenty of time to iron out any mishaps that may occur prior.
We are flying back from other than UK and I have begun to research those CPH-ORD flts, also in U, using a second stash of 230,000 miles on my hubby's account.
Sep 15, 2017, 12:17 pm
#911
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: AA EXP, National Exec
Posts: 86
You've read the Wikipost at the top of the page for the hints on finding awards on other one world airline partners, right?
Honestly, your chance of securing four MileSAAver Business awards on the same flights is not very good. You might seriously consider 2 on one flight set, 2 on another. This will save you headaches and stress of finding four on one, but if two more do become available, changing is no problem and generally without fees.
Now:
IB has a significantly better product than BA, with all solo suites and no clambering over others. IMO I'd rather fly IB; though the connection does add some pain, saving $400 p/p and the better, newer product is definitely worth it.
Timing is really a personal preference. Not to mention SAAver seekers can't be choosers, so forget about what others say. Dine on the ground in the ORD Flagship Lounge, sleep on board, stay active spend some afternoon time in the sun the day of arrival, drop a sublingual Melatonin prior to bedtime and I'm up automagically at 6:00 am, as I am at home.
Flying to Europe isn't statistically worse than flying elsewhere, AFAIK. Things can happen, but generally won't. Build some buffer time so baggage, etc. catches up to you on a cruise situation - I use a minimum of a full day buffer, sometimes longer.
BTW, if you fly back from other than the U.K. / LHR, you'll save the U.K. Air Passenger Duty on those award Business tickets. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html.
Honestly, your chance of securing four MileSAAver Business awards on the same flights is not very good. You might seriously consider 2 on one flight set, 2 on another. This will save you headaches and stress of finding four on one, but if two more do become available, changing is no problem and generally without fees.
Now:
IB has a significantly better product than BA, with all solo suites and no clambering over others. IMO I'd rather fly IB; though the connection does add some pain, saving $400 p/p and the better, newer product is definitely worth it.
Timing is really a personal preference. Not to mention SAAver seekers can't be choosers, so forget about what others say. Dine on the ground in the ORD Flagship Lounge, sleep on board, stay active spend some afternoon time in the sun the day of arrival, drop a sublingual Melatonin prior to bedtime and I'm up automagically at 6:00 am, as I am at home.
Flying to Europe isn't statistically worse than flying elsewhere, AFAIK. Things can happen, but generally won't. Build some buffer time so baggage, etc. catches up to you on a cruise situation - I use a minimum of a full day buffer, sometimes longer.
BTW, if you fly back from other than the U.K. / LHR, you'll save the U.K. Air Passenger Duty on those award Business tickets. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html.
I hate to book 2+2, as it is my family traveling together: Mom, Dad & 2 'kids' (15&21). We'd prefer to live the adventure together. Thank you for the suggestion!
I have now looked into IB U and it does get great reviews, especially as compared to BA! But wouldn't you know it, the seats available yesterday are now gone. So I will hope they come back.
There are 3 options for the IB MAD-LHR segment, so if I pick the middle one and there are connection issues, hopefully we could get on that next flt a few hours later.
Yes, this is a pre-cruise flt, but we don't embark until the weekend, so plenty of time to iron out any mishaps that may occur prior.
We are flying back from other than UK and I have begun to research those CPH-ORD flts, also in U, using a second stash of 230,000 miles on my hubby's account.
Sep 22, 2017, 4:44 pm
#912
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: CA & Europe
Programs: AA Life-Plat 5MM, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, UA, BA
Posts: 738
Award change from Economy to Biz still free
I am looking to book AA International Biz award on BA. Right now only Economy award is available.
Used to be that a change (same route and airline) from Economy to Biz had no charge for cancelling the Economy award and replacing it with Biz award (over phone with a agent).
Is this still true? If yes, is it just a common practice or written somewhere?
Used to be that a change (same route and airline) from Economy to Biz had no charge for cancelling the Economy award and replacing it with Biz award (over phone with a agent).
Is this still true? If yes, is it just a common practice or written somewhere?
Sep 22, 2017, 4:44 pm
#913
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: CA & Europe
Programs: AA Life-Plat 5MM, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, UA, BA
Posts: 738
Award change from Economy to Biz still free
I am looking to book AA International Biz award on BA. Right now only Economy award is available.
Used to be that a change (same route and airline) from Economy to Biz had no charge for cancelling the Economy award and replacing it with Biz award (over phone with a agent).
Is this still true? If yes, is it just a common practice or written somewhere?
Used to be that a change (same route and airline) from Economy to Biz had no charge for cancelling the Economy award and replacing it with Biz award (over phone with a agent).
Is this still true? If yes, is it just a common practice or written somewhere?
Sep 22, 2017, 9:25 pm
#914
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 5,465
I am looking to book AA International Biz award on BA. Right now only Economy award is available.
Used to be that a change (same route and airline) from Economy to Biz had no charge for cancelling the Economy award and replacing it with Biz award (over phone with a agent).
Is this still true? If yes, is it just a common practice or written somewhere?
Used to be that a change (same route and airline) from Economy to Biz had no charge for cancelling the Economy award and replacing it with Biz award (over phone with a agent).
Is this still true? If yes, is it just a common practice or written somewhere?
Sep 22, 2017, 9:25 pm
#915
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 5,465
I am looking to book AA International Biz award on BA. Right now only Economy award is available.
Used to be that a change (same route and airline) from Economy to Biz had no charge for cancelling the Economy award and replacing it with Biz award (over phone with a agent).
Is this still true? If yes, is it just a common practice or written somewhere?
Used to be that a change (same route and airline) from Economy to Biz had no charge for cancelling the Economy award and replacing it with Biz award (over phone with a agent).
Is this still true? If yes, is it just a common practice or written somewhere?