AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (master thd)
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oneworld and other airline Awards Rules, Information 2015 on NOTE: Check AA award charts for current awards costs. List of airlines you can use in redeeming awards: oneworld airlines (and their oneworld affiliates) are: Non-oneworld airlines one can redeem (MileSAAver) awards on are: Airlines that can be booked for award travel on aa.com: oneworld alliance partners All other airlines have to be requested by telephone; calling to book awards that cannot be booked online no longer incurs telephone service fees. Routing assistance, etc. Check this oneworld interactive map and timetable by Innosked to see potential routes, and you can sign up for British Airways Executive Club or Qantas Frequent Flyer to use their sites to find awards (look for the lowest level awards) you can't see on aa.com. Also see this link to AA.com listing oneworld airlines with information about each.
Originally Posted by JonNYC
(Routings allowed)
 Booking for, or changing an award to, travel sooner than 21 days out requires an early booking fee (waived for Executive Platinum members). One can not book farther out, change to closer in and evade this fee any longer (as of 16 Feb 2012) Booking Business or First awards with JL / Japan Airlines one will only be able to fly in Economy domestically in Japan, but upgrades are quite inexpensive at ¥1,000 or so per flight. See more below in "General Rules" Latest changes: AA Region Definitions* Region definitions changed again May 6, 2016. Link Links and resources:
_________________________________________________ updated 11MAY15 by hillrider. Modified and updated from JonNYC's original post in the archived thread (please feel free to update): Introduction There are two types of awards discussed below, AA Awards and oneworld and Other Airlines Awards, which are targeted to passengers traveling to a single destination. As of 1 October 2010 awards may be redeemed for travel on all British Airways flights, including previously excluded flights between the U.S. and U.K. Note that additional British Airways high YQ surcharges, as well as Iberia's lower YQ surcharges, apply based on class-of-service and market flown: see Earning and redeeming AA miles / upgrading on BA/IB; BA fuel surcharge (Oct 1, 2010) Award Rules General Rules, Routing and Connections Passenger has 4h on domestic / 23h59m international travel to connect. If there are no scheduled flights within this timeframe, regardless of availability, the passenger must take the next scheduled flight but, may not exceed 24 hours. If the connection exceeds 24 hours, it will be considered a stopover may require two awards). If there is a non-stop flight that departs after the 4h / 23h59m windows and arrives at the destination earlier than a connecting flight within the 4h / 23h59m window, the passenger may be booked on the non-stop flight. Effective on 14 Jul 2014 on an all-AA-metal award itinerary, you now have up to 18 hours to connect when traveling to/from Hawaii [[URL="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25730421-post993.html"]Ref] The particular carrier's Maximum Permitted Miles / MPM + 25% on a particular route. (The MPM by itself often exceeds the distance between the origin and destination airports because connections may be required.) Or, the "most significant carrier" (e.g. DFW-SFO-HKG-BKK, CX SFO-HKG is the prevailing or most significant carrier) must publish a non-constructed fare between your origin and destination. To price as a single award, AAdvantage requires the most significant carrier to publish a cash fare (non-constructed) between the origin and destination. Airline MSC would have to have a published fare from XXX to YYY that allows travel on all included airlines, and routing that you want. If the MSC only offers constructed fares between your desired origin and destination, AA will price this as two awards. Stopovers None allowed. Partner award inventories Award booking inventory classes for each carrier in the AAdvantage Award program are listed below and may be useful when on the phone with an AA rep or when checking availability. See also the Award Booking Codes page in the FlyerGuide wiki for updated information. Code:
oneworld Partners First Business Economy -------------------------------------------------------- AA - American Airlines Z U T -------------------------------------------------------- AY – Finnair U X -------------------------------------------------------- BA – British Airways Z U X -------------------------------------------------------- CX – Cathay Pacific Z U T KA - DragonAir -------------------------------------------------------- IB – Iberia U X -------------------------------------------------------- JJ - TAM Airlines O I X -------------------------------------------------------- JL – Japan Airlines (Intl) Z U T JL – Japan Airlines (Dom) Z D S -------------------------------------------------------- LA – LATAM / LAN Chile Z U T XL - LAN Ecuador LP - LAN Peru 4M - LAN Argentina -------------------------------------------------------- MH - Malaysia Airlines P U X -------------------------------------------------------- QF - QANTAS Airways P U X -------------------------------------------------------- QR - Qatar Airways Z U X -------------------------------------------------------- RJ – Royal Jordanian U X -------------------------------------------------------- S7 – S7 Airlines U E -------------------------------------------------------- UL - SriLankan Airlines -------------------------------------------------------- Other Partners First Business Economy -------------------------------------------------------- FJ – Fiji Airways U X -------------------------------------------------------- TN – Air Tahiti Nui F for Business U for Economy -------------------------------------------------------- AS – Alaska Airlines A W -------------------------------------------------------- LY – El Al Israel P X E -------------------------------------------------------- EY - Etihad O I N -------------------------------------------------------- HA – Hawaiian Airlines D T -------------------------------------------------------- General Routing Rules Routing General Rules Passenger has 4h / 23h59m to connect (depending on domestic or international travel). If there are no scheduled flights within this timeframe, regardless of availability, the passenger must take the next scheduled flight but, may not exceed 24 hours. If the connection exceeds 24 hours, it will be considered a stopover. If there is a non-stop flight that departs after the 4h / 23h59m window and arrives at the destination earlier than a connecting flight within the 4h / 23h59m window, the passenger may be booked on the non-stop flight. It is not necessary to check every flight/carrier to ensure passenger is booked on next scheduled flight. Must meet Married Segment Logic - a prospective trip may be available when searching segment by segment, yet not be bookable through from origin to destination. When selling seats for through flights and the desired inventory is not available, you cannot opt to sell the flight point-to-point. If sold point-to-point, the error response MULTIPLE SEGMENTS FOR SAME FLIGHT - SELL AS ONE SEGMENT will be received, indicating this booking is not allowed. Overriding the error check by ending the PNR twice is not acceptable. Within North America North America To/from Other Regions Travel Wholly Within or Between All Other Regions These awards do not allow a connection via North America and therefore, do not include travel on American Airlines. Travel Via a Third Region Travel via a third region is not allowed (note the exception table below). EXCEPTION TABLE: To/From Via Regions: Travel on LAN direct flights between North America and South America Region 2 are allowed. Currently, only one market, Miami to/from Buenos Aries, has direct service. These can only be booked by the liaisons. Contact support for booking assistance. For permitted changes and fees, see this post
Resources
Links to other threads of interest: MileSAAver / SAAver Award Availability - Help, Assistance & Discussion (consolidated) Help with British Airways / BA surcharge / YQ (AA award on BA, consolidated) UK APD / Air Passenger Duty charged for UK departures Award with available segments not bookable? (Married Segment issues) MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction / scarcity >= Aug 2011 onward (consolidated) Ticket or Award status: On Request, Pending, Purchased and Ticketed (consolidated) Link to archived older posts from this thread. Thanks and a tip of the hat to aktchi, eponymous-coward, guv1976, hillrider, iztok, JonNYC and others who have contributed to this wiki. 
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Jan 14, 15, 8:49 am
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AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (master thd)
I've read contradicting information, so I'm kindly requesting a clarification of the changes on partners awards:
- PHL-SFO on US / SJC-HNL on AS, can it be changed for free to PHL-LAX-HNL on US/AA?
Similarly,
- LIH-SEA on AS / SEA-MIA on AA, can it be changed to LIH-LAX-MIA on AA?
Thanks
- PHL-SFO on US / SJC-HNL on AS, can it be changed for free to PHL-LAX-HNL on US/AA?
Similarly,
- LIH-SEA on AS / SEA-MIA on AA, can it be changed to LIH-LAX-MIA on AA?
Thanks
Jan 14, 15, 9:56 am
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No to both.
Switching from an itinerary that involves a non-oneworld partner to an all-oneworld itinerary (or vice versa) incurs the change fee.
Originally Posted by B7e7US
I've read contradicting information, so I'm kindly requesting a clarification of the changes on partners awards:
- PHL-SFO on US / SJC-HNL on AS, can it be changed for free to PHL-LAX-HNL on US/AA?
Similarly,
- LIH-SEA on AS / SEA-MIA on AA, can it be changed to LIH-LAX-MIA on AA?
Thanks
- PHL-SFO on US / SJC-HNL on AS, can it be changed for free to PHL-LAX-HNL on US/AA?
Similarly,
- LIH-SEA on AS / SEA-MIA on AA, can it be changed to LIH-LAX-MIA on AA?
Thanks
Switching from an itinerary that involves a non-oneworld partner to an all-oneworld itinerary (or vice versa) incurs the change fee.
Jan 14, 15, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by filelover
I have booked award tickets with QR, EY, BA, JL and a few others and have never had issues with the 5 day hold.
How about when you want to book two seats but with two separate AAccounts?
Thanks
Jan 14, 15, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
What are the requirements to make a hold? Just an account and a call?
How about when you want to book two seats but with two separate AAccounts?
Thanks
How about when you want to book two seats but with two separate AAccounts?
Thanks
Jan 15, 15, 12:32 am
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Originally Posted by worldiswide
Depends on what airline partner. Some you can do at aa.com and you don't need to call at all. Just login to each account and there will be a hold and or a purchasevbutton Just did that this Am for some qf flights. What air line and routing are you looking for.
Jan 17, 15, 12:12 am
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Then you will need to call and have an agent look for availability for you.
Jan 17, 15, 4:40 pm
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Europe - South Pacific - permitted connections
Originally Posted by guv1976
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From the "AA and Partner Airline Award" thread in the pre-merger AA forum:
"Europe to/from South Pacific:
will allow for connections in Singapore or Bangkok only. Stopovers in these cities for this award are not allowed.
**this rule may actually be this now:
Award travel between Europe and the South Pacific will allow for connections in Bangkok, Hong Kong, Narita, Osaka or Singapore only. Stopovers in these cities for this award are not allowed."
From the "AA and Partner Airline Award" thread in the pre-merger AA forum:
"Europe to/from South Pacific:
will allow for connections in Singapore or Bangkok only. Stopovers in these cities for this award are not allowed.
**this rule may actually be this now:
Award travel between Europe and the South Pacific will allow for connections in Bangkok, Hong Kong, Narita, Osaka or Singapore only. Stopovers in these cities for this award are not allowed."
I was wondering in my current naive state, what direct / connections constitute in Europe to South Pacific awards?
For example, J class awards for 3 people (as I am looking to book) are not easily found on direct routings such as SYD-SIN-LHR (BA). So I have been searching for separate awards like, SYD-NRT and NRT-LHR. A small complication is we are actually looking for WLG-SYD-NRT-LHR.
If I find availability on this route (for example), but with QF then JL or BA with a connection of less than 24hours (or is that 6hours??), would the route be valid?
I would refine my searching through the gateways noted above (BKK, HKG, NRT, SIN etc).
Just not completely sure that this is construed as a "direct connection" when using two carriers and is less orthodox than traditional connections with a single flight number or carrier?
Want to phone up armed with the correct information and known availability so confirmation of what people believe as the rules and routings permitted would be greatly appreciated...I can of course report back!
cheers
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Jan 17, 15, 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by djsteve
Folks,
I was wondering in my current naive state, what direct / connections constitute in Europe to South Pacific awards?
For example, J class awards for 3 people (as I am looking to book) are not easily found on direct routings such as SYD-SIN-LHR (BA). So I have been searching for separate awards like, SYD-NRT and NRT-LHR. A small complication is we are actually looking for WLG-SYD-NRT-LHR.
If I find availability on this route (for example), but with QF then JL or BA with a connection of less than 24hours (or is that 6hours??), would the route be valid?
I would refine my searching through the gateways noted above (BKK, HKG, NRT, SIN etc).
Just not completely sure that this is construed as a "direct connection" when using two carriers and is less orthodox than traditional connections with a single flight number or carrier?
Want to phone up armed with the correct information and known availability so confirmation of what people believe as the rules and routings permitted would be greatly appreciated...I can of course report back!
cheers
dj
I was wondering in my current naive state, what direct / connections constitute in Europe to South Pacific awards?
For example, J class awards for 3 people (as I am looking to book) are not easily found on direct routings such as SYD-SIN-LHR (BA). So I have been searching for separate awards like, SYD-NRT and NRT-LHR. A small complication is we are actually looking for WLG-SYD-NRT-LHR.
If I find availability on this route (for example), but with QF then JL or BA with a connection of less than 24hours (or is that 6hours??), would the route be valid?
I would refine my searching through the gateways noted above (BKK, HKG, NRT, SIN etc).
Just not completely sure that this is construed as a "direct connection" when using two carriers and is less orthodox than traditional connections with a single flight number or carrier?
Want to phone up armed with the correct information and known availability so confirmation of what people believe as the rules and routings permitted would be greatly appreciated...I can of course report back!
cheers
dj
For now, anyway, completely leave out the WLG-SYD portion, will only complicate things and very possibly will need to be on a separate award, so discard that for a moment (obviously you'll try and add it back in once you get the rest lined up.)
You can disregard the specified Asian airports from my old info. I forgot why at the time they names the connection points (the was a reason-- and it was before published fare rule, so maybe that was it) as the current, verbatim rule is:
"Europe to South Pacific may connect in Asia1 or Asia2" Now that is then overplayed with the published fare requirement-- and that can be tricky, but you're routing is pretty non-demanding. Connection time is 24 hours.
Also, note that you can fly SYD-DXB-LHR using Qantas using the single flight # QF flights -and- you can review the availability of those on AA.com.
Jan 17, 15, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
For now, anyway, completely leave out the WLG-SYD portion, will only complicate things and very possibly will need to be on a separate award, so discard that for a moment (obviously you'll try and add it back in once you get the rest lined up.)
You can disregard the specified Asian airports from my old info. I forgot why at the time they names the connection points (the was a reason-- and it was before published fare rule, so maybe that was it) as the current, verbatim rule is:
"Europe to South Pacific may connect in Asia1 or Asia2" Now that is then overplayed with the published fare requirement-- and that can be tricky, but you're routing is pretty non-demanding. Connection time is 24 hours.
Also, note that you can fly SYD-DXB-LHR using Qantas using the single flight # QF flights -and- you can review the availability of those on AA.com.
You can disregard the specified Asian airports from my old info. I forgot why at the time they names the connection points (the was a reason-- and it was before published fare rule, so maybe that was it) as the current, verbatim rule is:
"Europe to South Pacific may connect in Asia1 or Asia2" Now that is then overplayed with the published fare requirement-- and that can be tricky, but you're routing is pretty non-demanding. Connection time is 24 hours.
Also, note that you can fly SYD-DXB-LHR using Qantas using the single flight # QF flights -and- you can review the availability of those on AA.com.
I presume then, North America connections are not possible?
Eg SYD-DFW-LHR or SYD-LAX-LHR etc?
cheers
dj
Jan 17, 15, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by djsteve
Many thanks. That sounds good, plenty of options presented with Asia.
I presume then, North America connections are not possible?
Eg SYD-DFW-LHR or SYD-LAX-LHR etc?
I presume then, North America connections are not possible?
Eg SYD-DFW-LHR or SYD-LAX-LHR etc?
Jan 18, 15, 2:16 pm
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You can also look for MH flights via KL.
Jan 23, 15, 11:49 pm
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What happens when there's a conflict between the exception chart and the most direct routing?
The most direct routing from LHR-PPT would be LHR-LAX-PPT. Would they really force you to do LHR-SIN-SYD-AKL-PPT?
The most direct routing from LHR-PPT would be LHR-LAX-PPT. Would they really force you to do LHR-SIN-SYD-AKL-PPT?
Jan 24, 15, 12:12 am
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Yes.
But if TN publishes a LON-PPT through-fare via CDG, you might be able to book LON-CDG-PPT, since TN's CDG-PPT flight does not require a connection in LAX: it merely makes an intermediate stop there.
Originally Posted by John_OHST
What happens when there's a conflict between the exception chart and the most direct routing?
The most direct routing from LHR-PPT would be LHR-LAX-PPT. Would they really force you to do LHR-SIN-SYD-AKL-PPT?
The most direct routing from LHR-PPT would be LHR-LAX-PPT. Would they really force you to do LHR-SIN-SYD-AKL-PPT?
But if TN publishes a LON-PPT through-fare via CDG, you might be able to book LON-CDG-PPT, since TN's CDG-PPT flight does not require a connection in LAX: it merely makes an intermediate stop there.
Jan 25, 15, 8:37 am
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SYD-DOH-LHR is no good? Is there a rate rule that I can quote them that would allow connections in Doha?
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Jan 25, 15, 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by John_OHST
What happens when there's a conflict between the exception chart and the most direct routing?
The most direct routing from LHR-PPT would be LHR-LAX-PPT. Would they really force you to do LHR-SIN-SYD-AKL-PPT?
The most direct routing from LHR-PPT would be LHR-LAX-PPT. Would they really force you to do LHR-SIN-SYD-AKL-PPT?
