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ARCHIVE: NEWBIE LOUNGE 2019: Ask "Newbie" AA Questions Here (flame free)
Sep 1, 2019, 12:45 pm
#1456
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,483
Thank you JJeffrey for the help.
Selecting "partner airlines' from the search helped, eliminating BA results.
I could not find anything saying "Advanced Search"; but I did notice this: "Try our new award booking search". Choosing that, I ended up getting pretty much the same award options, but BA was now included.
Through the regular (non-advanced) search, I found only a few that would be good options:
EWR - CLT - MUC
LGA - PHL - ZRH
LGA - PHL - LHR
These options which came up would be too lengthy:
EWR - CLT - PHL - ZRH
EWR - CLT - PHL - AMS
EWR - ORD - PHL - AMS
EWR - ORD - DFW- FRA
EWR - CLT - DFW- FRA
LGA - STL - DFW- FRA
JFK - AUS - DFW- FRA
I appreciate your help.
In the end, I did not find as many good options as you did.
If you can, please send me any other tips you may have.
Selecting "partner airlines' from the search helped, eliminating BA results.
I could not find anything saying "Advanced Search"; but I did notice this: "Try our new award booking search". Choosing that, I ended up getting pretty much the same award options, but BA was now included.
Through the regular (non-advanced) search, I found only a few that would be good options:
EWR - CLT - MUC
LGA - PHL - ZRH
LGA - PHL - LHR
These options which came up would be too lengthy:
EWR - CLT - PHL - ZRH
EWR - CLT - PHL - AMS
EWR - ORD - PHL - AMS
EWR - ORD - DFW- FRA
EWR - CLT - DFW- FRA
LGA - STL - DFW- FRA
JFK - AUS - DFW- FRA
I appreciate your help.
In the end, I did not find as many good options as you did.
If you can, please send me any other tips you may have.
You found pretty much what I was able to find, a lot depends on exactly what date(s) you were looking at. One thing to keep in mind is that AA only serves FRA & MUC from DFW & CLT. So if say CLT-FRA is not available on any of your dates but DFW is, that is why you're seeing the backtracking to DFW and 2+ connections.
That said, the options you did find look pretty good. Looking for sAAver business space on AA metal to central Europe, they won't really get to look any better than that, so I would grab something while it's available. Or at least put it on hold (free for 5 days) while you finalize plans or check other options.
Sep 2, 2019, 2:00 pm
#1457
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New York
Programs: AA, BA, UA, DL, etc
Posts: 12
Thanks guv1976!
Sep 2, 2019, 10:29 pm
#1458
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 10
Please forgive the newbie question here. It's similar to Muji's above, but a little different. - I'm trying to get 2 business class tickets for June 2020 from SFO to [any European airport convenient to FRA - Paris, Brussels, Munich, etc]. We have a lot of flexibility on dates, and our ability to make a short domestic hop in coach in order to get business class across the Atlantic. We have about 200k AA miles (and 200k on AS, and an additional 84k on UA), but no status. Can anyone give me some tips on how to best search a wide variety of options? The straightforward SFO-FRA flights are not available. Thank you.
Sep 2, 2019, 10:34 pm
#1459
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,030
Please forgive the newbie question here. It's similar to Muji's above, but a little different. - I'm trying to get 2 business class tickets for June 2020 from SFO to [any European airport convenient to FRA - Paris, Brussels, Munich, etc]. We have a lot of flexibility on dates, and our ability to make a short domestic hop in coach in order to get business class across the Atlantic. We have about 200k AA miles (and 200k on AS, and an additional 84k on UA), but no status. Can anyone give me some tips on how to best search a wide variety of options? The straightforward SFO-FRA flights are not available. Thank you.
Wanting 2 award seats on the same flight makes it harder.
- HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
- AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (master thd)
- BA IB----> Help avoid YQ Surcharge: AA award on BA / British (& Iberia) (master thread)
- IB--->Flying IB / Iberia: seat, ticket, PNR, earning, award issues (consolidated)
- AA to Europe---> Where exactly does AA fly to Europe? Which routes have good business seats?
- .
- More award availability restricted by married segments / connections
- AAdvantage MileSAAver: “Through Award Fares”, a New (March 2019)
AS & AA have many common ff partners.
Good luck with the hunt ^
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Sep 2, 2019 at 10:41 pm
Sep 3, 2019, 9:16 am
#1460
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Please forgive the newbie question here. It's similar to Muji's above, but a little different. - I'm trying to get 2 business class tickets for June 2020 from SFO to [any European airport convenient to FRA - Paris, Brussels, Munich, etc]. We have a lot of flexibility on dates, and our ability to make a short domestic hop in coach in order to get business class across the Atlantic. We have about 200k AA miles (and 200k on AS, and an additional 84k on UA), but no status. Can anyone give me some tips on how to best search a wide variety of options? The straightforward SFO-FRA flights are not available. Thank you.
Sep 3, 2019, 9:41 am
#1461
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 805
I had an award flight the other week, MCO-JFK-HND in F (80k miles x2 people). The first leg ended up getting cancelled and I rebooked in J since that was the only thing available. Anyways miles posted which pushed me to Platinum Pro.
If I call to get refunded the 40k miles due to the F to J change, do you think they'll also see the MQD and MQM posting and remove it? I'm debating whether Plat Pro would be worth 40k miles or not. But if someone can say they will just refund the miles and not even look at any potential earnings I'll just go ahead and call.
If I call to get refunded the 40k miles due to the F to J change, do you think they'll also see the MQD and MQM posting and remove it? I'm debating whether Plat Pro would be worth 40k miles or not. But if someone can say they will just refund the miles and not even look at any potential earnings I'll just go ahead and call.
Sep 3, 2019, 12:15 pm
#1462
Join Date: Sep 2015
Programs: A3*G,BA Silver
Posts: 2,012
Flying with AA London-Miami-Medellin in November and also in February Casablanca-Dallas-Honolulu. in both caes the transit time is 2 hours. is it enough to go via immigration and check in my luggage again or too ris k y? Shall i go HBO?
Sep 3, 2019, 12:39 pm
#1463
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,483
I had an award flight the other week, MCO-JFK-HND in F (80k miles x2 people). The first leg ended up getting cancelled and I rebooked in J since that was the only thing available. Anyways miles posted which pushed me to Platinum Pro.
If I call to get refunded the 40k miles due to the F to J change, do you think they'll also see the MQD and MQM posting and remove it? I'm debating whether Plat Pro would be worth 40k miles or not. But if someone can say they will just refund the miles and not even look at any potential earnings I'll just go ahead and call.
If I call to get refunded the 40k miles due to the F to J change, do you think they'll also see the MQD and MQM posting and remove it? I'm debating whether Plat Pro would be worth 40k miles or not. But if someone can say they will just refund the miles and not even look at any potential earnings I'll just go ahead and call.
That said, when you pull up your account, is this listed as 2 separate items, i.e. one for the award (-80k miles) and a completely separate entry for the flights (+ whatever miles earned)?
If it's separate, I'd be inclined to think that the mileage posting would stay regardless. An agent is not likely to start poking around and changing things that are somewhat separate from the issue/item you're calling about. Without a lot of research they would have no idea why that flight (erroneously) posted the way it did. For all they know the award flight could have been for someone else with you buying a paid ticket on the same flight, etc.
Sep 3, 2019, 2:51 pm
#1464
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 805
No one here will be able to say definitively, completely YMMV depending on the agent and whatever processes AA has in place for this type thing.
That said, when you pull up your account, is this listed as 2 separate items, i.e. one for the award (-80k miles) and a completely separate entry for the flights (+ whatever miles earned)?
If it's separate, I'd be inclined to think that the mileage posting would stay regardless. An agent is not likely to start poking around and changing things that are somewhat separate from the issue/item you're calling about. Without a lot of research they would have no idea why that flight (erroneously) posted the way it did. For all they know the award flight could have been for someone else with you buying a paid ticket on the same flight, etc.
That said, when you pull up your account, is this listed as 2 separate items, i.e. one for the award (-80k miles) and a completely separate entry for the flights (+ whatever miles earned)?
If it's separate, I'd be inclined to think that the mileage posting would stay regardless. An agent is not likely to start poking around and changing things that are somewhat separate from the issue/item you're calling about. Without a lot of research they would have no idea why that flight (erroneously) posted the way it did. For all they know the award flight could have been for someone else with you buying a paid ticket on the same flight, etc.
Sep 3, 2019, 4:26 pm
#1465
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: TPA
Programs: BA Silver; Hilton Gold; IHG Diamond Ambassador; Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,811
Best to check the relevant fora:
AA Guide: MIA / Miami International Airport, MCT / Connection, etc.
AA Guide: DFW / Dallas - Fort Worth International Airport - MCT, Connection, etc
Sep 4, 2019, 8:54 am
#1466
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 805
I had an award flight the other week, MCO-JFK-HND in F (80k miles x2 people). The first leg ended up getting cancelled and I rebooked in J since that was the only thing available. Anyways miles posted which pushed me to Platinum Pro.
If I call to get refunded the 40k miles due to the F to J change, do you think they'll also see the MQD and MQM posting and remove it? I'm debating whether Plat Pro would be worth 40k miles or not. But if someone can say they will just refund the miles and not even look at any potential earnings I'll just go ahead and call.
If I call to get refunded the 40k miles due to the F to J change, do you think they'll also see the MQD and MQM posting and remove it? I'm debating whether Plat Pro would be worth 40k miles or not. But if someone can say they will just refund the miles and not even look at any potential earnings I'll just go ahead and call.
Sep 4, 2019, 10:46 am
#1467
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,220
I'm so confused about seat choices
We almost never fly AA anymore (usually AS), but we had some old miles we've used for an upcoming F flight.
We just had a schedule change and now the new flight has me so confused...it is the one where there are basically 2 first class sections...(it is AA 1297 LAX/MIA, aircraft is 772). We are traveling as a couple, so got 2 seats in the center section. However, I just saw some pictures and am I correct that these seats are "separated " from each other? sort of a wall in between?
We like to play cards, talk, rest on each other's shoulders...will we be isolated from each other?
Also, since there are 2 of these sections, is there a dedicated FA for each one?
I'm now wondering if I should have selected a different flight that has the seats right next to each other (which aircraft type would that be?). Or would it be too late to switch since I already accepted this schedule change? Any advice?
We just had a schedule change and now the new flight has me so confused...it is the one where there are basically 2 first class sections...(it is AA 1297 LAX/MIA, aircraft is 772). We are traveling as a couple, so got 2 seats in the center section. However, I just saw some pictures and am I correct that these seats are "separated " from each other? sort of a wall in between?
We like to play cards, talk, rest on each other's shoulders...will we be isolated from each other?
Also, since there are 2 of these sections, is there a dedicated FA for each one?
I'm now wondering if I should have selected a different flight that has the seats right next to each other (which aircraft type would that be?). Or would it be too late to switch since I already accepted this schedule change? Any advice?
Sep 4, 2019, 10:49 am
#1468
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,285
We almost never fly AA anymore (usually AS), but we had some old miles we've used for an upcoming F flight.
We just had a schedule change and now the new flight has me so confused...it is the one where there are basically 2 first class sections...(it is AA 1297 LAX/MIA, aircraft is 772). We are traveling as a couple, so got 2 seats in the center section. However, I just saw some pictures and am I correct that these seats are "separated " from each other? sort of a wall in between?
We like to play cards, talk, rest on each other's shoulders...will we be isolated from each other?
Also, since there are 2 of these sections, is there a dedicated FA for each one?
I'm now wondering if I should have selected a different flight that has the seats right next to each other (which aircraft type would that be?). Or would it be too late to switch since I already accepted this schedule change? Any advice?
We just had a schedule change and now the new flight has me so confused...it is the one where there are basically 2 first class sections...(it is AA 1297 LAX/MIA, aircraft is 772). We are traveling as a couple, so got 2 seats in the center section. However, I just saw some pictures and am I correct that these seats are "separated " from each other? sort of a wall in between?
We like to play cards, talk, rest on each other's shoulders...will we be isolated from each other?
Also, since there are 2 of these sections, is there a dedicated FA for each one?
I'm now wondering if I should have selected a different flight that has the seats right next to each other (which aircraft type would that be?). Or would it be too late to switch since I already accepted this schedule change? Any advice?
Sep 4, 2019, 10:54 am
#1469
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 805
We almost never fly AA anymore (usually AS), but we had some old miles we've used for an upcoming F flight.
We just had a schedule change and now the new flight has me so confused...it is the one where there are basically 2 first class sections...(it is AA 1297 LAX/MIA, aircraft is 772). We are traveling as a couple, so got 2 seats in the center section. However, I just saw some pictures and am I correct that these seats are "separated " from each other? sort of a wall in between?
We like to play cards, talk, rest on each other's shoulders...will we be isolated from each other?
Also, since there are 2 of these sections, is there a dedicated FA for each one?
I'm now wondering if I should have selected a different flight that has the seats right next to each other (which aircraft type would that be?). Or would it be too late to switch since I already accepted this schedule change? Any advice?
We just had a schedule change and now the new flight has me so confused...it is the one where there are basically 2 first class sections...(it is AA 1297 LAX/MIA, aircraft is 772). We are traveling as a couple, so got 2 seats in the center section. However, I just saw some pictures and am I correct that these seats are "separated " from each other? sort of a wall in between?
We like to play cards, talk, rest on each other's shoulders...will we be isolated from each other?
Also, since there are 2 of these sections, is there a dedicated FA for each one?
I'm now wondering if I should have selected a different flight that has the seats right next to each other (which aircraft type would that be?). Or would it be too late to switch since I already accepted this schedule change? Any advice?
If it's the 2-4-2 section then it's the international premium economy section which is made up of what are first class seats on the narrow body airplanes and what you're used to on AS in F.
I'd just try to move to the premium economy section which is likely sold as business class on domestic routes.
Sep 4, 2019, 12:28 pm
#1470
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,220
Actually it looks kind of cool. And since we 99% fly Alaska we might never get the opportunity to try it out. I think we'll just keep what we have.
But what about my question about how many FA's are in F on those flights?
But what about my question about how many FA's are in F on those flights?