Where exactly does AA fly to Europe? Which routes have good business seats?
Aug 8, 19, 10:58 am - Wikipost
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Link to American Way Magazine online, which offers various maps. “It's low-resolution when viewed online, but if you download it, it downloads a higher-resolution version.“
Aircraft offering fully horizontal lie flat seats in Business / First.
See links to threads on specific aircraft and seating in aircraft help desk.
NOTE: All* widebody aircraft are being fitted with Premium Economy seating using the Rockwell Collins MiQ seat. In some instances, the required seat reduction is from Main Cabin Extra. All AA widebody aircraft and international 757-200s offer lie flat Business seats, other than US-Hawaii 757s offering standard recliners. All lie flat seats other than the 75L and 321T Diamond Parallel Seats are all aisle seat access.
Aircraft type - timetable designation - seat type (notes)
Airbus A330-300 / 333: Zodiac - Sicma "Envoy Suite" (*No Premium Economy - leaving fleet by 2019)
Airbus A330-200 / 332: Zodiac - Sicma "Envoy Suite"
Airbus A321-200 Transcontinental / 321T (aa.com lists it and other A321s with Sharklets wingtip devices as “32B”): Zodiac Sicma solo suite (F - as 77W J seat); B/E Aerospace Diamond Parallel seat pairs (J) (NOTE: aa.com lists A321T and reclining seat AA A321s with “Sharklets” wingtip devices variants as “32B” on aa.com; US non-Sharklets A321s are listed as “321”)
Boeing 787-9/ 789: B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Solo (reverse herringbone, face forward)
Boeing 787-8 / 788: Zodiac Concept D Business Suite (face fore and aft)
Boeing 777-300ER / 77W: Zodiac Flagship Suite (F); Zodiac "Cirrus" Business Suite (J)
Boeing 777-200ER/ 772: B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Solo (reverse herringbone, face forward)
Boeing 777-200ER/ 772: Zodiac Concept D Business Suite (face fore and aft)
Boeing 767-200ER / 763: Thompson Vantage 1 - 2 - 1 layout all aisle access
Boeing 757-200 International / 75L: B/E Aerospace Diamond Parallel 2 x 2 paired seats
Link - The AA Cargo Site offers Widebody schedules
Link - The (unofficial) AA Fleet Site offers configuration by individual aircraft registration (“tail”) number
Initial booking results on aa.com reveal aircraft types operated on routes
I was surprised to see the seasonal GLA-PHL route missing from the wiki. A quick search online shows that for the S19 season, the route has been replaced by a seasonal EDI-PHL route
I was surprised to see the seasonal GLA-PHL route missing from the wiki. A quick search online shows that for the S19 season, the route has been replaced by a seasonal EDI-PHL route
Sigh that's a shame. While it is somewhat easier to get from the middle of EDI to the airport by public transit, the fact that the city is totally overrun by tourists makes me want to avoid it and besides my business interests are closer to GLA.
The google flight site can give a pretty good depiction by searching all AA US hubs as an origin, and "EUROPE" as destination with a date. In this link I used July 13 to get the full map of nonstop Europe destinations from MIA/PHL/JFK/ORD/DFW/LAX
On the second of the two original questions, where is there a good business class saver availability, I found that the Philadelphia to Dubrovnik route was loaded with business saver tickets in late July and early August. It’s a 767 so not the best biz seats, but very impressive availability if you’re looking to get to central Europe. I saw U 7 on a number of days, we ultimately got 6 family members on the same flights.
On the second of the two original questions, where is there a good business class saver availability, I found that the Philadelphia to Dubrovnik route was loaded with business saver tickets in late July and early August. It’s a 767 so not the best biz seats, but very impressive availability if you’re looking to get to central Europe. I saw U 7 on a number of days, we ultimately got 6 family members on the same flights.
I casually checked and saw things with enormous travel times (33 hours). What specific routings did you find this on?>
I casually checked and saw things with enormous travel times (33 hours). What specific routings did you find this on?>
Well, for starters, you cannot begin in PHL. If there is any rule we have learned from married segments is that you can almost never find availability from a trans-Atlantic or trans-pacific gateway. But from there I found lots of great options, for me starting from the Pacific NW was the goal. We got SEA-PHL during the day but an overnight in PHL, then PHL-DBV the next day. We kept doing EF searches and low and behold a better connection popped up and now we leave Seattle at 8:15am and only have a brief layover in PHL before the DBV flight leaves at 6:20pm that evening.
Lastly, book something with a couple of connections, "enormous travel times" and sit back and wait for the schedule changes and call in the claim your prize (of a more direct routing). There is an entire thread on this trick, it works well if you book in September for the following summer.
Nothing is remotely free any more with AA, but there still are tricks and tips. I wouldnt be discouraged by bad connections or long travel time, you can fix those over the next 8 months.