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Where exactly does AA fly to Europe? Which routes have good business seats?

Where exactly does AA fly to Europe? Which routes have good business seats?

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Aug 8 2019 ---> August 2019 international expansion announced
Apr 27 2019--->New AA USA - Europe services for 2019

AA-metal flights from Europe & Africa:
AMS - PHL, DFW(s)
ATH - ORD (s), PHL(s)
BCN - CLT(s), JFK, MIA, ORD(s), PHL(s)
BLQ - PHL(s)
BUD - ORD(s) PHL(s)
CDG - CLT (s), DFW, JFK, MIA, ORD (s), PHL
CMN - PHL(s)
DBV - PHL(s)
DUB - CLT(s), DFW(s), ORD(s), PHL
EDI - PHL(s)
FCO - CLT(s), JFK (s), ORD(s), PHL, DFW(s)
FRA - CLT, DFW
KEF - DFW (s)
KRK - ORD(s)
LIS - PHL(s)
LHR - CLT, DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA, ORD, PHL, PHX (s), RDU
MAD - CLT(s), DFW, JFK, MIA, PHL
MAN - PHL
MUC - CLT, DFW(s), [PHL ended March 30, 2019]
MXP - JFK, MIA
PRG - ORD(s), PHL(s)
SNN - PHL(s)
TLV - DFW
TXL - PHL(s)
VCE - PHL(s), ORD(s)
ZRH - PHL
(s) = Seasonal route


(table - revised image added 09 Aug 2019)

Last update: August 9th, 2018

Resources:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...es-2019-a.html

Link to AA Cargo site (lists widebody routes and aircraft)

Link to AA interactive route map

Link to AA interactive award map

Link to American Way Magazine online, which offers various maps. “It's low-resolution when viewed online, but if you download it, it downloads a higher-resolution version.“

Aircraft offering fully horizontal lie flat seats in Business / First.

See links to threads on specific aircraft and seating in aircraft help desk.


NOTE: All* widebody aircraft are being fitted with Premium Economy seating using the Rockwell Collins MiQ seat. In some instances, the required seat reduction is from Main Cabin Extra. All AA widebody aircraft and international 757-200s offer lie flat Business seats, other than US-Hawaii 757s offering standard recliners. All lie flat seats other than the 75L and 321T Diamond Parallel Seats are all aisle seat access.

Aircraft type - timetable designation - seat type (notes)

  • Airbus A330-300 / 333: Zodiac - Sicma "Envoy Suite" (*No Premium Economy - leaving fleet by 2019)
    • Airbus A330-200 / 332: Zodiac - Sicma "Envoy Suite"
      • Airbus A321-200 Transcontinental / 321T (aa.com lists it and other A321s with Sharklets wingtip devices as “32B”): Zodiac Sicma solo suite (F - as 77W J seat); B/E Aerospace Diamond Parallel seat pairs (J) (NOTE: aa.com lists A321T and reclining seat AA A321s with “Sharklets” wingtip devices variants as “32B” on aa.com; US non-Sharklets A321s are listed as “321”)
        • Boeing 787-9/ 789: B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Solo (reverse herringbone, face forward)
          • Boeing 787-8 / 788: Zodiac Concept D Business Suite (face fore and aft)
            • Boeing 777-300ER / 77W: Zodiac Flagship Suite (F); Zodiac "Cirrus" Business Suite (J)
              • Boeing 777-200ER/ 772: B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Solo (reverse herringbone, face forward)
                • Boeing 777-200ER/ 772: Zodiac Concept D Business Suite (face fore and aft)
                  • Boeing 767-200ER / 763: Thompson Vantage 1 - 2 - 1 layout all aisle access
                    • Boeing 757-200 International / 75L: B/E Aerospace Diamond Parallel 2 x 2 paired seats

Link - The AA Cargo Site offers Widebody schedules

Link - The (unofficial) AA Fleet Site offers configuration by individual aircraft registration (“tail”) number

Initial booking results on aa.com reveal aircraft types operated on routes



Link to archived older posts

Thanks to econometrics.
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Old Apr 30, 18, 12:07 pm
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PHL - ATH begins 5/4.
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Old Aug 3, 18, 1:08 pm
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Any chance a list like this exists somewhere that just shows nonstops to Europe?
Thanks
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Old Aug 3, 18, 1:28 pm
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Originally Posted by pkerr View Post
Any chance a list like this exists somewhere that just shows nonstops to Europe?
Thanks
These are all nonstop routes.
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Old Dec 20, 18, 9:40 am
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The wiki lists CDG-BOS(s) and was updated last August. I don't see it in the schedule though.

Is this a mistake or is AA really bringing back the seasonal Paris route next spring or summer? Thanks.
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Old Dec 23, 18, 10:05 am
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Great thread -- exactly the info I was looking for.
I wonder if there are any new updates for the wiki?

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Old Dec 23, 18, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by rrgg View Post
The wiki lists CDG-BOS(s) and was updated last August. I don't see it in the schedule though.

Is this a mistake or is AA really bringing back the seasonal Paris route next spring or summer? Thanks.
I suspect it's out of date. Will update to remove.
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Old Dec 24, 18, 6:58 am
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I was surprised to see the seasonal GLA-PHL route missing from the wiki. A quick search online shows that for the S19 season, the route has been replaced by a seasonal EDI-PHL route
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Old Dec 24, 18, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Reetmafreen View Post
I was surprised to see the seasonal GLA-PHL route missing from the wiki. A quick search online shows that for the S19 season, the route has been replaced by a seasonal EDI-PHL route
Sigh that's a shame. While it is somewhat easier to get from the middle of EDI to the airport by public transit, the fact that the city is totally overrun by tourists makes me want to avoid it and besides my business interests are closer to GLA.
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Old Dec 26, 18, 9:13 am
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The google flight site can give a pretty good depiction by searching all AA US hubs as an origin, and "EUROPE" as destination with a date. In this link I used July 13 to get the full map of nonstop Europe destinations from MIA/PHL/JFK/ORD/DFW/LAX

https://www.google.com/flights?hl=en...03052;t:e;tt:o
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Old Oct 22, 19, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by pkerr View Post
Any chance a list like this exists somewhere that just shows nonstops to Europe?
Thanks
Yes you go American airlines website and get all nonstop routes to Europe.
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Old Nov 4, 19, 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by airlinesbooking1 View Post
Hi everyone how can find complete route map of AA.
It's located at American Airlines Map

Another source is the AA magazine you can get in flight or at an Admirals' Club.
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Old Nov 4, 19, 1:49 pm
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On the second of the two original questions, where is there a good business class saver availability, I found that the Philadelphia to Dubrovnik route was loaded with business saver tickets in late July and early August. It’s a 767 so not the best biz seats, but very impressive availability if you’re looking to get to central Europe. I saw U 7 on a number of days, we ultimately got 6 family members on the same flights.
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Old Nov 4, 19, 2:40 pm
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On the second of the two original questions, where is there a good business class saver availability, I found that the Philadelphia to Dubrovnik route was loaded with business saver tickets in late July and early August. It’s a 767 so not the best biz seats, but very impressive availability if you’re looking to get to central Europe. I saw U 7 on a number of days, we ultimately got 6 family members on the same flights.
I casually checked and saw things with enormous travel times (33 hours). What specific routings did you find this on?>
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Old Nov 4, 19, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by gumercindo View Post
I casually checked and saw things with enormous travel times (33 hours). What specific routings did you find this on?>
Well, for starters, you cannot begin in PHL. If there is any rule we have learned from married segments is that you can almost never find availability from a trans-Atlantic or trans-pacific gateway. But from there I found lots of great options, for me starting from the Pacific NW was the goal. We got SEA-PHL during the day but an overnight in PHL, then PHL-DBV the next day. We kept doing EF searches and low and behold a better connection popped up and now we leave Seattle at 8:15am and only have a brief layover in PHL before the DBV flight leaves at 6:20pm that evening.

Lastly, book something with a couple of connections, "enormous travel times" and sit back and wait for the schedule changes and call in the claim your prize (of a more direct routing). There is an entire thread on this trick, it works well if you book in September for the following summer.

Nothing is remotely free any more with AA, but there still are tricks and tips. I wouldnt be discouraged by bad connections or long travel time, you can fix those over the next 8 months.
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Old Nov 14, 19, 10:20 am
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Lie flat?

Are all AA aircraft flying TATL now offering horizontal lie flat seats in Business Class?
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