FA withholding, measuring or commenting on in air alcoholic drinks
Jul 30, 2019, 5:58 pm
#91
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I don’t think anyone’s questioning this logic, but why the seeming reprimand? At the end of the flight no less.
Jul 30, 2019, 6:09 pm
#92
Join Date: Dec 2012
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No, but plenty of side-eye when i order booze (PDB) on those 5:30am - 7am departures...on DL I used to order coffee Baileys side of Woodford....a nice Irish breakfast...proper Irish if Jameson's had been available 🙃
Jul 30, 2019, 6:33 pm
#93
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Once I've been told that I would get only one more; don't know how many cocktails I had consumed but I can hold my booze and wasn't acting drunk. Can't blame the FA and respect their decision.
Back in the day I had consumed an ambien CR with a few cocktails on a redeye - pretty stupid on my part but how was the FA supposed to know. Slept really good for about 3 hours though.
Back in the day I had consumed an ambien CR with a few cocktails on a redeye - pretty stupid on my part but how was the FA supposed to know. Slept really good for about 3 hours though.
Jul 30, 2019, 6:34 pm
#94
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Jul 30, 2019, 6:38 pm
#95
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As per 14 CFR 121.575(b)(1) (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/121.575):
"No certificate holder may serve any alcoholic beverage to any person aboard any of its aircraft who ... Appears to be intoxicated"
It is potentially a big deal if a flight attendant allows any passenger to become drunk, so I'm not at all surprised that they comment from time-to-time. In fact, I suspect they keep a rough mental tally of what they've served to every passenger.
"No certificate holder may serve any alcoholic beverage to any person aboard any of its aircraft who ... Appears to be intoxicated"
It is potentially a big deal if a flight attendant allows any passenger to become drunk, so I'm not at all surprised that they comment from time-to-time. In fact, I suspect they keep a rough mental tally of what they've served to every passenger.
At the other end of the scale, I have seen an F FA serve one man three triples (ordered a double and extra bottle to top it off when he drank enough to hold it) during a 2 hour flight between SEA and LAX. 9X50 ml bottles equates to 15.25 ounces. I reported that incedent for coaching.
On AA I have never been questioned and find I am more often declining an offer for more. I like Tequila on the rocks with a twist of lime. Not an easy drink to find on a lot of airlines.
James
Jul 30, 2019, 6:50 pm
#97
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As per 14 CFR 121.575(b)(1) (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/121.575):
"No certificate holder may serve any alcoholic beverage to any person aboard any of its aircraft who ... Appears to be intoxicated"
It is potentially a big deal if a flight attendant allows any passenger to become drunk, so I'm not at all surprised that they comment from time-to-time. In fact, I suspect they keep a rough mental tally of what they've served to every passenger.
"No certificate holder may serve any alcoholic beverage to any person aboard any of its aircraft who ... Appears to be intoxicated"
It is potentially a big deal if a flight attendant allows any passenger to become drunk, so I'm not at all surprised that they comment from time-to-time. In fact, I suspect they keep a rough mental tally of what they've served to every passenger.
I would take the FA's comment as a "slow down before I shut you off" in a somewhat nicer package.
None of this is about whether booze is free in MCE, the same CFR provision applies to paid booze as well.
Jul 30, 2019, 6:58 pm
#98
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Not AA, and not 1st or biz, however while on a Frontier flight from MSP-TPA a few months ago I ordered the "Happy Hour" special from the menu. 4 drinks for the price of 3. I sent one back a few rows to my companion, kept 3 for myself. No issue. Through a series of hilarious events, the two of us probably had 6 each during the flight. I hate to say I was drunk, but standing in the galley of a LCC flight having fun with the flight attendants may have been the best time I've had on an aircraft to date.
FWIW: No one asked if I was driving (I wasn't).
FWIW: No one asked if I was driving (I wasn't).
Jul 30, 2019, 6:59 pm
#99
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The problem with this sort of generalization is the tally for one person is not in any way correlated with the tally for another. A better way of approaching this is for the FA to keep this information to themself and do something like engage in friendly conversation or banter with the customer to gauge their level of inhibition and ability to speak/react. If there is a concern then bring it up, however if there is not then there is no reason to insinuate anything aloud to the customer.
With that said, I have also had the opposite experience at times where the FA wants to just keep pouring and pouring and I had to decline for one reason or another. I have very good self awareness and know when I have had enough vs. what I can handle, certainly better than any FA would be able to tell me, however I understand that many people who never drink/drink very rarely may not be familiar with how alcohol effects them.
With that said, I have also had the opposite experience at times where the FA wants to just keep pouring and pouring and I had to decline for one reason or another. I have very good self awareness and know when I have had enough vs. what I can handle, certainly better than any FA would be able to tell me, however I understand that many people who never drink/drink very rarely may not be familiar with how alcohol effects them.
Jul 30, 2019, 7:29 pm
#101
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Police peoples behavior. Not the number of drinks
Jul 30, 2019, 7:48 pm
#102
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With that said, I have also had the opposite experience at times where the FA wants to just keep pouring and pouring and I had to decline for one reason or another. I have very good self awareness and know when I have had enough vs. what I can handle, certainly better than any FA would be able to tell me, however I understand that many people who never drink/drink very rarely may not be familiar with how alcohol effects them.
Jul 30, 2019, 7:49 pm
#103
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Jul 30, 2019, 7:56 pm
#104
Join Date: Mar 2016
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I can’t be the only one who gets a HUGE glass of wine on my premium cabin TATL flights. By normal pour standards (4 to 5 ounces) it must be a double. And it always gets too warm before I can consume all of it. And they usually come by offering to top off my glass. I can’t seem to get them to stop pouring me wine. Going Eastbound I always have to rent a car so I basically return the glass half full to the galley after a few but Westbound - it’s bombs away!
Jul 30, 2019, 7:59 pm
#105
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Yes, for the first time last month. As FA handed my third drink she said: "This is your last one."
I asked her why she said that. She said that she didn't know if I would be driving later and that the airline would be responsible if I was.
I asked her why she said that. She said that she didn't know if I would be driving later and that the airline would be responsible if I was.