FA withholding, measuring or commenting on in air alcoholic drinks
Aug 1, 2019, 2:45 pm
#151
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This reasoning comes again again on this thread.
NO
If you become a behavior problem, then you ALREADY got too many drinks, the problem has not been avoided.
They would have to cut you off BEFORE the behavior problem starts, if FAs are supposed to do that.
If they are supposed to cut someone off, it would have to be based on an objective/quantifiable measure, no?
Judging behavior is very subjective (much more so if one is trying to determine when enough is enough before someone enters the problematic drunk zone)
I guess the easiest way is by number of drinks?
NO
If you become a behavior problem, then you ALREADY got too many drinks, the problem has not been avoided.
They would have to cut you off BEFORE the behavior problem starts, if FAs are supposed to do that.
If they are supposed to cut someone off, it would have to be based on an objective/quantifiable measure, no?
Judging behavior is very subjective (much more so if one is trying to determine when enough is enough before someone enters the problematic drunk zone)
I guess the easiest way is by number of drinks?
Aug 1, 2019, 3:48 pm
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I'm visiting an AA flight attendant and her husband, both old and very close friends. Wife (the AA employee) is sitting with me as I'm doing my round through the FT threads in which I'm interested. She saw me reading this one, and told me that if an airline permits someone to board who is drunk, the minimum fine from the FAA is USD $20,000.
Aug 1, 2019, 3:52 pm
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I'm visiting an AA flight attendant and her husband, both old and very close friends. Wife (the AA employee) is sitting with me as I'm doing my round through the FT threads in which I'm interested. She saw me reading this one, and told me that if an airline permits someone to board who is drunk, the minimum fine from the FAA is USD $20,000.
Aug 1, 2019, 4:09 pm
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Aug 1, 2019, 10:04 pm
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Drink away, I have done so myself, way too many as recently as earlier this week. I am only saying the server absolutly has the authority to restrict/limit/stop service. What you/we/me think should be the limit or rule means nothing. If a server cuts you off after 1 drink, your cut off. To argue you can handle 1/3/5/15 drinks means nothing. If a server feels its time to cut you off, thats it.
simply put, some people deserve to be cut off - I've body slammed a wasted guy and helped flex cuff him for being a belligerent idiot . That is not carte blanche for not serving people for whatever reason they seem fit.
Aug 1, 2019, 10:06 pm
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Aug 1, 2019, 10:11 pm
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This reasoning comes again again on this thread.
NO
If you become a behavior problem, then you ALREADY got too many drinks, the problem has not been avoided.
They would have to cut you off BEFORE the behavior problem starts, if FAs are supposed to do that.
If they are supposed to cut someone off, it would have to be based on an objective/quantifiable measure, no?
Judging behavior is very subjective (much more so if one is trying to determine when enough is enough before someone enters the problematic drunk zone)
I guess the easiest way is by number of drinks?
NO
If you become a behavior problem, then you ALREADY got too many drinks, the problem has not been avoided.
They would have to cut you off BEFORE the behavior problem starts, if FAs are supposed to do that.
If they are supposed to cut someone off, it would have to be based on an objective/quantifiable measure, no?
Judging behavior is very subjective (much more so if one is trying to determine when enough is enough before someone enters the problematic drunk zone)
I guess the easiest way is by number of drinks?
Since that isn't on the table, the rest is a bunch of societal norm based easy behavior. People's inability to make reasonable decisions is not my problem. Let the belligerent problem passengers pay and deal with the problems they create - the rest of us do not need policing on our drink consumption.
Aug 1, 2019, 10:54 pm
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If you guys think this is a problem, try flying an airline based out of certain parts of the world where if you order one beer/drink the FA has a "problem" with it.
To which I say, "Go work for Saudia".
To which I say, "Go work for Saudia".
Aug 2, 2019, 6:54 am
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They have full authority in the same way that they are not performing service due to "weather conditions".
simply put, some people deserve to be cut off - I've body slammed a wasted guy and helped flex cuff him for being a belligerent idiot . That is not carte blanche for not serving people for whatever reason they seem fit.
simply put, some people deserve to be cut off - I've body slammed a wasted guy and helped flex cuff him for being a belligerent idiot . That is not carte blanche for not serving people for whatever reason they seem fit.
Aug 2, 2019, 6:58 am
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Easiest way is to ban alcohol. Some people are a problem after a single drink.
Since that isn't on the table, the rest is a bunch of societal norm based easy behavior. People's inability to make reasonable decisions is not my problem. Let the belligerent problem passengers pay and deal with the problems they create - the rest of us do not need policing on our drink consumption.
Since that isn't on the table, the rest is a bunch of societal norm based easy behavior. People's inability to make reasonable decisions is not my problem. Let the belligerent problem passengers pay and deal with the problems they create - the rest of us do not need policing on our drink consumption.
Aug 2, 2019, 8:09 am
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I am well aware that servers can limit how much they serve. An FA can also kick you off a flight. Doesn't mean these rules need to be applied without common sense and consistency.
Aug 2, 2019, 9:29 am
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What exactly is your issue with a FA cutting off someone, what is bothering you. There should not be a consistent standard for level of alcohol, it's all based on behavior, consumption, frequency. I have no comment about kicking off a flight as this thread is not about that.
Aug 2, 2019, 9:50 am
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What exactly is your issue with a FA cutting off someone, what is bothering you. There should not be a consistent standard for level of alcohol, it's all based on behavior, consumption, frequency. I have no comment about kicking off a flight as this thread is not about that.
Aug 2, 2019, 9:51 am
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And when someone’s drinking forces this action, everyone on the flight is punished. And it’s not just time lost, it’s potentially misconnections forcing a 24 hour delay on an international itinerary, lost hotel prepayment at the final destination and the payment of a hotel at the hub city, etc. It’s easy to blame the evil FA that cut you off because you are one of the “responsible” drinkers, but what about the risk of not spotting that one drinker that will cause the flight to be diverted costing everyone onboard time and money? I have no issue with an FA cutting me off.