Aa crew sharing their saliva with you
#46
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I don't get the saliva part. It's not like he was licking them and then replacing them back in the stock. If he picked them with his fingers and "popped them into his mouth" then his saliva would not have come in contact with the passengers' nuts.
I do think there is plenty to object to here. The FAs should not be eating the passengers' food before it's served. But this particular action doesn't make what was served any less hygenic. The FAs' hands are all over everything they serve. Plus the heating and the salt on the nuts would likely have taken care of anything he did pass onto the nuts.
I do think there is plenty to object to here. The FAs should not be eating the passengers' food before it's served. But this particular action doesn't make what was served any less hygenic. The FAs' hands are all over everything they serve. Plus the heating and the salt on the nuts would likely have taken care of anything he did pass onto the nuts.
So no - normally their fingers do not fondle our food
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The only time I ever see plastic gloves on the FAs' hands are when they are collecting garbage into a bag in Y.
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FAs are usually serving food, not preparing it. Even when they plate items, they usually use utensils.
That would be true if nuts were being cooked to a high enough internal temperature, but they are not. They are just being warmed up.
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Yawn.
While his behavior may have been inappropriate, taking pictures of a crew member without permission is against airline policy.
Eating nuts out of the tin and spitting into the tin would be two completely different behaviors.
While his behavior may have been inappropriate, taking pictures of a crew member without permission is against airline policy.
Eating nuts out of the tin and spitting into the tin would be two completely different behaviors.
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As a career microbiologist (with plenty of fancy, over-priced degrees), I approve this thread.
A few caveats, however.
If virus transmission is a concern, the salt has a minimal effect. There are also plenty of organisms (spores) and salinophiles (salt-lovers) that can survive the salt. There's not enough salt to act as a preservation method, it's more for the flavor.
There's also not enough heat exposure to have a major effect on the bioburden. There's also not a single layer or sufficient dispersion of heat to ensure every nut gets the same heat exposure.
Most important (then I'm done with my soapbox), I really, really like Pecans and I demand retribution for the OP just on that basis, alone!
Ironically, I wonder if people assume the pillows, blankets and seat backs are steam-cleaned between passenger contact periods. The air jets aren't sterile either!
A few caveats, however.
If virus transmission is a concern, the salt has a minimal effect. There are also plenty of organisms (spores) and salinophiles (salt-lovers) that can survive the salt. There's not enough salt to act as a preservation method, it's more for the flavor.
There's also not enough heat exposure to have a major effect on the bioburden. There's also not a single layer or sufficient dispersion of heat to ensure every nut gets the same heat exposure.
Most important (then I'm done with my soapbox), I really, really like Pecans and I demand retribution for the OP just on that basis, alone!
Ironically, I wonder if people assume the pillows, blankets and seat backs are steam-cleaned between passenger contact periods. The air jets aren't sterile either!
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If an employee is doing something wrong, it's quite easy to identify them without a photo. Flight #, service cabin they're working, name tag, etc. provides more than enough info to the airline to find them. Personally, I don't think anyone should be subjected to have their picture taken without permission. You don't often see it in any industry other than aviation, and I don't know why that is.
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As a career microbiologist (with plenty of fancy, over-priced degrees), I approve this thread.
A few caveats, however.
If virus transmission is a concern, the salt has a minimal effect. There are also plenty of organisms (spores) and salinophiles (salt-lovers) that can survive the salt. There's not enough salt to act as a preservation method, it's more for the flavor.
There's also not enough heat exposure to have a major effect on the bioburden. There's also not a single layer or sufficient dispersion of heat to ensure every nut gets the same heat exposure.
Most important (then I'm done with my soapbox), I really, really like Pecans and I demand retribution for the OP just on that basis, alone!
A few caveats, however.
If virus transmission is a concern, the salt has a minimal effect. There are also plenty of organisms (spores) and salinophiles (salt-lovers) that can survive the salt. There's not enough salt to act as a preservation method, it's more for the flavor.
There's also not enough heat exposure to have a major effect on the bioburden. There's also not a single layer or sufficient dispersion of heat to ensure every nut gets the same heat exposure.
Most important (then I'm done with my soapbox), I really, really like Pecans and I demand retribution for the OP just on that basis, alone!
I understand there are no guarantees. A FA may wash his or her hands before serving, but pick up the dirty dishes and utensils of a sick passenger before bringing me my meal. The wipes help improve the odds.
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I'd probably have forgotten about the fact my mixed nuts were missing pecans about 10 minutes after I finished them, nevermind 60 days from then.
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If an employee is doing something wrong, it's quite easy to identify them without a photo. Flight #, service cabin they're working, name tag, etc. provides more than enough info to the airline to find them. Personally, I don't think anyone should be subjected to have their picture taken without permission. You don't often see it in any industry other than aviation, and I don't know why that is.
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I’m not going to comment on this alleged incident, but will point out that Hepatitis C is NOT transmitted in the manner you describe, whatsoever.
Hepatitis A would be more likely transmitted as a result of insanitary food preparation. People should be immunized against A (and possibly also B). C is now curable.
This kind of ignorance is dangerous.
Hepatitis A would be more likely transmitted as a result of insanitary food preparation. People should be immunized against A (and possibly also B). C is now curable.
This kind of ignorance is dangerous.
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