Aa crew sharing their saliva with you

Old Nov 11, 17, 9:45 am
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Angry Aa crew sharing their saliva with you

RE:
Disgusting behavior of class crew member JACK on flight AA477 YVR-PHX on October 28:
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My husband and I are both Emerald members and fly extensively.
Never before did we observe such a behavior of a crew before.

We were seated in the first row (Business class)
we photographed a crew member named Jack picking with his un-gloved fingers through the entire batch of nuts destined for the
business cabin passengers.
He selected nuts he liked, popped them into his mouth, continued to probe with his fingers, selected more of the same, ate them, and continued for appr. 5 minutes through the entire batch until there were none of his favorite nuts left.
Then he covered the tray and placed it into the oven to warm up. Then he took nuts from that tray and placed them in the ceramic bowls
and served to unsuspecting passengers.
Later we innocently asked him what were his favorite nuts to which he replied PECANS..

On exit we attempted to point it to him that this is extremely unhygienic
He reddened in the face but he batted us away saying that he was going through the "batch of nuts meant for the crew" and that he would never do it to nuts meant for the passengers.

First of all, we SAW him place the contaminated aluminum tray with nuts into the oven and then divide the portions for the passengers
secondly, guess what, there were no pecans left in the nuts we received,
thirdly, I doubt that a 3 person crew would receive 2 pounds nuts to share for the flight.

It was the most disgusting behavior we have ever witnessed.
dangerous to boot - what if Jack has a hep C?
do your crew members spit into passenger food when nobody is looking?

I think someone needs to explain to JACK that this is a highly risky behavior
beside being uncivilized and inappropriate.

we have photo of Jack with an open tray of nuts poking through it but it does not show him sticking them into his mouth (his back was toward us).
My husband who is also emerald member witnessed it as well
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Old Nov 11, 17, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by arrow2fast View Post
RE:
Disgusting behavior of class crew member JACK on flight AA477 YVR-PHX on October 28:
BUSINESS CLASS

My husband and I are both Emerald members and fly extensively.
Never before did we observe such a behavior of a crew before.

We were seated in the first row (Business class)
we photographed a crew member named Jack picking with his un-gloved fingers through the entire batch of nuts destined for the
business cabin passengers.
He selected nuts he liked, popped them into his mouth, continued to probe with his fingers, selected more of the same, ate them, and continued for appr. 5 minutes through the entire batch until there were none of his favorite nuts left.
Then he covered the tray and placed it into the oven to warm up. Then he took nuts from that tray and placed them in the ceramic bowls
and served to unsuspecting passengers.
Later we innocently asked him what were his favorite nuts to which he replied PECANS..

On exit we attempted to point it to him that this is extremely unhygienic
He reddened in the face but he batted us away saying that he was going through the "batch of nuts meant for the crew" and that he would never do it to nuts meant for the passengers.

First of all, we SAW him place the contaminated aluminum tray with nuts into the oven and then divide the portions for the passengers
secondly, guess what, there were no pecans left in the nuts we received,
thirdly, I doubt that a 3 person crew would receive 2 pounds nuts to share for the flight.

It was the most disgusting behavior we have ever witnessed.
dangerous to boot - what if Jack has a hep C?
do your crew members spit into passenger food when nobody is looking?

I think someone needs to explain to JACK that this is a highly risky behavior
beside being uncivilized and inappropriate.

we have photo of Jack with an open tray of nuts poking through it but it does not show him sticking them into his mouth (his back was toward us).
My husband who is also emerald member witnessed it as well
You both are emerald but what is your status with AA? That matters.

Report the sicko to AA and write him up. He deserves to get a box.
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Old Nov 11, 17, 10:21 am
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No wonder there aren't any pecans left in the nut mix.

It happens when people work without any active front-line supervision.
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Old Nov 11, 17, 10:53 am
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Wow, that is beyond disgusting. I hope you write to AA and I hope Jack has to look for a new job (preferably not not in the food service industry)
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Old Nov 11, 17, 11:01 am
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I call BS. There is no way someone could see into the galley from bulkhead row 1, especially on a narrow-body. Unless maybe the OP is superman and has X-ray vision.

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Old Nov 11, 17, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by lobo411 View Post
I call BS. There is no way someone could see into the galley from bulkhead row 1, especially on a narrow-body. Unless maybe the OP is superman and has X-ray vision.
Iíve sat in row 1/row 3 (both bulkheads depending on aircraft) many times and if you are in the C seat (aisle) you can look up to the right and directly into part of the galley. If you were in the D/F seats of the bulkhead then yes, you would need to be Superman to see behind the wall in front of you and into the galley.
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Old Nov 11, 17, 11:19 am
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Totally inappropriate behavior. However, there's a reason salty snacks are served all over the world, including at millions of bars, where ungloved fingers touch 'em all the time: Because they're SALTY. Salt is a lovely germ killer.
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Old Nov 11, 17, 11:28 am
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Yea if you're on a LUS Airbus in 1A/1C it feels as if you're basically sitting in the galley as you can see most of everything
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Old Nov 11, 17, 11:28 am
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I don't get the saliva part. It's not like he was licking them and then replacing them back in the stock. If he picked them with his fingers and "popped them into his mouth" then his saliva would not have come in contact with the passengers' nuts.

I do think there is plenty to object to here. The FAs should not be eating the passengers' food before it's served. But this particular action doesn't make what was served any less hygenic. The FAs' hands are all over everything they serve. Plus the heating and the salt on the nuts would likely have taken care of anything he did pass onto the nuts.
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Old Nov 11, 17, 12:34 pm
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I don't get the saliva part. It's not like he was licking them and then replacing them back in the stock. If he picked them with his fingers and "popped them into his mouth" then his saliva would not have come in contact with the passengers' nuts.

I do think there is plenty to object to here. The FAs should not be eating the passengers' food before it's served. But this particular action doesn't make what was served any less hygenic. The FAs' hands are all over everything they serve. Plus the heating and the salt on the nuts would likely have taken care of anything he did pass onto the nuts.
What if she said that he "placed" them in his mouth - can you see the transfer of saliva then? I can. Disgusting.
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Old Nov 11, 17, 12:34 pm
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He was a fool for not pulling the galley curtain on the basis of what the eye does not see the heart does not grieve over. I wonder how many times he's done this and not got caught.

I strongly suspect that as with the non-serving of Pre-Departure Beverages, they will do nothing about it.
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Old Nov 11, 17, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian View Post
Salt is a lovely germ killer.
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Plus the heating and the salt on the nuts would likely have taken care of anything he did pass onto the nuts.
This is what I love about Flyertalk - well informed microbiologists weighing in on issues like this one with profound expertise. Lolz.
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Old Nov 11, 17, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides View Post
This is what I love about Flyertalk - well informed microbiologists weighing in on issues like this one with profound expertise. Lolz.
I'm amused by all the people who can't imagine eating nuts without sticking their fingers in their mouths
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Old Nov 11, 17, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by lobo411 View Post
I call BS. There is no way someone could see into the galley from bulkhead row 1, especially on a narrow-body. Unless maybe the OP is superman and has X-ray vision.
Not true. As someone else mentioned you can definitely get a full view of the galley especially in the aisle seat on some aircraft. On a flight a saw a quite crafty FA load up on mini's and sodas into his duffel bag.
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Old Nov 11, 17, 12:53 pm
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When I saw the thread title, I was expecting it to go in a far more positive and interesting direction. It did not.

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