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TWA884 May 12, 2024 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by Venezuela-Miami (Post 36228496)
'My hunch is that the statement is specific to AA elites' - I don't get this reasoning, AA Elites don't get any Lounge access privilege per status alone (save for CK)...

That is inaccurate.

AAdvantage members with Platinum status or higher get access to the Flagship Lounges when travelling in any cabin on international long-haul flights and to the Admirals Clubs when traveling in any cabin on international short-haul flights.

Venezuela-Miami May 12, 2024 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 36228788)
That is inaccurate.

AAdvantage members with Platinum status or higher get access to the Flagship Lounges when travelling in any cabin on international long-haul flights and to the Admirals Clubs when traveling in any cabin on international short-haul flights.

The access isn't due to status alone, it's status + the intl route component.

Non-US airline OWE/OWS status (my case) grants access in any flight.

kangarooflyer88 May 12, 2024 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by Torquer (Post 36228459)
Thanks scubadu and Madison Guy for confirming from your personal experience. BTW, in our case the domestic flight and international flights are indeed the same day.

As others have pointed out, if that is the case, then yes you will have access to the American Airlines or OneWorld lounge as the case may be since this is a flight from New York to Santiago connecting in Miami. That LGA to MIA is a domestic segment will not have any bearing since your itinerary is itinerary and that is considered an international flight both in the eyes of AA and the law (in terms of Montreal Convention).


Originally Posted by Venezuela-Miami (Post 36228496)
'My hunch is that the statement is specific to AA elites' - I don't get this reasoning, AA Elites don't get any Lounge access privilege per status alone (save for CK), for me this is all that counts and I have the webpage tab always in my phone (not that I ever had to show it yet): 'Get access if you’re departing, arriving or connecting to any same-day flight marketed and operated by American or a oneworld® airline (regardless of cabin).'

AA Elites do get lounge access based on status alone. However, there are additional rules for them. Namely, they need to be travelling on an international itinerary going somewhere other than North America (except for Mexico City) to be eligible for access. Per the OneWorld site:

American Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for access to oneworld member airline lounge when travelling solely on North American flights between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
Specifically for domestic flights they also state:

American Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on domestic U.S. flights (some exceptions apply).
Reading this term that means if you are travelling from Boise to Seattle, no you won't have access. But if you are flying from Boise to Brussels, Belgium or Portland to Perth, Australia, then yes you'll have access on those domestic flights since you are not travelling solely on domestic U.S. flights.



Originally Posted by Venezuela-Miami (Post 36228496)
'I’d give it a go and see what happens. Last week was the second time in ~20 visits to the FL between non-AA OWS/E where I was told this (the other being the LAX OW business lounge)' - This is exactly my case, always access it as non-AA OWS/E at all of the locations (mainly at ORD), on arrival, without any issue, but haven't been since March this year. It scares me a bit now that you say that the very same agent at ORD that let you in a week ago now denies entry. In my case I'd stand my ground showing the above mentioned paragraph from the AA website

My experience as a Qantas OneWorld Sapphire is that I haven't had any issues accessing American lounges on departure, arrival or connection (did that about a dozen times when I was in the US back in October). Most of those flights were solely domestic US. Similar thing for Alaska (except for the arrival bit as that's not allowed). Heck, once I had a late night flight from Seattle to LAX on Alaska and was able to access the Flagship lounge on arrival, no problems whatsoever.


Originally Posted by Venezuela-Miami (Post 36229102)
Non-US airline OWE/OWS status (my case) grants access in any flight.

That is mostly true. Lounges can and do limit access for made up reasons as well. For instance, I was refused entry to the British Airways lounge at Seattle as I wasn't on an international flight despite me being a Qantas Gold (OneWorld Sapphire).

kamadzu4 May 13, 2024 3:18 am

Trying to understand the rules. A few days ago, I was arriving to ORD on a domestic AA coach award and accessed the flagship lounge on arrival using BA gold / OWE. I had thought that access on arrival was a OneWorld policy, but I was mistaken.

So was it AA that allowed the entry? BA, since they were paying for it? Or the combination of both?

LCSinTexas May 13, 2024 3:42 am

When you fly AA domestic, as OWE or OWS you are allowed into FL. Regardless of class.

LcS

JJeffrey May 13, 2024 3:59 am


Originally Posted by kamadzu4 (Post 36229812)
Trying to understand the rules. A few days ago, I was arriving to ORD on a domestic AA coach award and accessed the flagship lounge on arrival using BA gold / OWE. I had thought that access on arrival was a OneWorld policy, but I was mistaken.

So was it AA that allowed the entry? BA, since they were paying for it? Or the combination of both?

You are correct that oneworld lounge access rules do not allow access on arrival. You must have a departing oneworld flight. However AA lounges typically allow access on arrival also; This is AA allowing the entry.

kamadzu4 May 13, 2024 4:25 am


Originally Posted by JJeffrey (Post 36229869)
You are correct that oneworld lounge access rules do not allow access on arrival. You must have a departing oneworld flight. However AA lounges typically allow access on arrival also; This is AA allowing the entry.

Gotcha. Out of curiosity, under what circumstances do AA lounges not allow access on arrival (assuming you stay airside or can get back to airside)?

wtcmor May 20, 2024 4:18 pm

I think I have FL access on arrival for my situation but just want to check with the brains trust here. Flying San Antonio to Dallas early evening and then have a 14 hour layover and an early morning flight to Atlanta the next day all on one ticket. I am OW Saphhire through Qantas. I have booked overnight accomodation outside the airport but assuming that as I will have my luggage checked through I will be able to access the lounge in Dallas on arrival. TIA

Global321 May 20, 2024 4:41 pm


Originally Posted by wtcmor (Post 36247685)
I think I have FL access on arrival for my situation but just want to check with the brains trust here. Flying San Antonio to Dallas early evening and then have a 14 hour layover and an early morning flight to Atlanta the next day all on one ticket. I am OW Saphhire through Qantas. I have booked overnight accomodation outside the airport but assuming that as I will have my luggage checked through I will be able to access the lounge in Dallas on arrival. TIA

As OW Sapphire with Qantas, yes.

Get access if you’re departing, arriving or connecting to any same-day flight marketed and operated by American or a oneworld® airline (regardless of cabin)

Tyler2675 May 26, 2024 6:45 pm

Flagship lounge access exec plat
 
I'm AA exec plat, I've fly Cathay pacific PE to HKG from ORD every other month or so. I know I get lounge access if I layover in lax , but I'm flying out on a Cathay plane. The domestic part of the flight is on a AA route. My question is since I buy the tickets from Cathay, and it's an international route, but the ORD to LAX segment is on AA, am I entitled to flagship access at ORD since the ORD is part of an international itinerary? Thanks

lrdpenn May 26, 2024 6:51 pm

Yes. You can access the ORD FL on arrival and departure in any class of service, even Y, due to your EXP (oneworld emerald) status, when flying Cathay or any oneworld airline on the longhaul segment

CMTinPHL May 26, 2024 6:52 pm


Originally Posted by Tyler2675 (Post 36261540)
I'm AA exec plat, I've fly Cathay pacific PE to HKG from ORD every other month or so. I know I get lounge access if I layover in lax , but I'm flying out on a Cathay plane. The domestic part of the flight is on a AA route. My question is since I buy the tickets from Cathay, and it's an international route, but the ORD to LAX segment is on AA, am I entitled to flagship access at ORD since the ORD is part of an international itinerary? Thanks

Yes. From AA.com: “Get access if you’re departing, arriving or connecting to any same-day flight marketed and operated by American or a oneworld® airline (regardless of cabin).*^”

JY1024 May 26, 2024 11:48 pm

Merged with Flagship Lounge access thread. Thanks. :) / Moderator

TechMarauder May 27, 2024 7:34 am


Originally Posted by wtcmor (Post 36247685)
I think I have FL access on arrival for my situation but just want to check with the brains trust here. Flying San Antonio to Dallas early evening and then have a 14 hour layover and an early morning flight to Atlanta the next day all on one ticket. I am OW Saphhire through Qantas. I have booked overnight accomodation outside the airport but assuming that as I will have my luggage checked through I will be able to access the lounge in Dallas on arrival. TIA

AA doesn’t usually check through luggage for overnight domestic connections >12 hours. Regardless, you will have access on arrival but may have to travel back from Terminal D (FL) to the terminal you arrived at to retrieve your bags for the night.

wtcmor May 27, 2024 2:56 pm

Thanks changed flight to be 11 hour connection so hopefully that will be ok. For such a short layover really don't want the hassle of re-checking in the next morning


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