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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 3:57 pm
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I predict a lot of confusion with the new BE fare, but I hope that they make it extremely clear on AA.com which fare one is purchasing (and make it easy to buy 1 fare class higher than BE). I don't ever want to accidentally select this option given my travel requirements..
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 4:08 pm
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So is it possible to select the next fare bucket up on AA.com, so I can get a fare that includes some of these amenities, without going all the way to a refundable fare? Or do I just need to purchase the amenities ala carte now?
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 4:29 pm
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Cute!

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....economy-fares/

If flights cancel — whether due to weather, mechanical, crew availability, or otherwise — customers will only be re-accommodated onto American Airlines flights (no interlining onto another airline) and will only be re-accommodated into Basic Economy inventory.

...When American runs its automated system to re-accommodate passengers, Basic Economy customers will be re-assigned last.

Update: American has now confirmed to me that basic economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will be at the bottom of the list for automatic re-accommodation as well. However basic economy “B” inventory will not need to be available in order to be moved onto another flight.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by joeyE
So is it possible to select the next fare bucket up on AA.com, so I can get a fare that includes some of these amenities, without going all the way to a refundable fare?
We'll see how the purchase options are displayed when AA actually rolls it out to the ten (unidentified for now) test markets.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
I've already decided i won't be booking these, but if an EXP doesn't get high priority in IRROPS because of the fare he/she happens to be on at the time, I'd say that's an unfair situation.

Are all of these revelations about Basic Economy only talking about non-status passengers, or would an EXP whose flight goes belly up really be stuck at the bottom of the list?
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by josmul123
I've already decided i won't be booking these, but if an EXP doesn't get high priority in IRROPS because of the fare he/she happens to be on at the time, I'd say that's an unfair situation.

Are all of these revelations about Basic Economy only talking about non-status passengers, or would an EXP whose flight goes belly up really be stuck at the bottom of the list?
nope, that whole section is for non-elites on these fares.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by ty97
No upgrades.
No bag in overhead.
No changes, no same day confirmed, no standby.
I thought elites still get overhead usage.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by bacampbe
Several people offered the opinion that this will not affect frequent fliers. In my case it might; my company's travel policy says we have to take the lowest available fare. I doubt our TA is going to offer normal Y fares if a BE fare is available. Unless the company changes the policy, I'm going to either be stuck in BE or have to regularly up-fare out of my own pocket.
Yep, I'm in the same boat. We use Concur but I doubt my employer is going to filter out these BE fares.

Anyone know what the fare codes are for BE?
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 5:13 pm
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OT: I cannot believe "rollerboard" has become acceptable. Ugh.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by born sleepy
Yep, I'm in the same boat. We use Concur but I doubt my employer is going to filter out these BE fares.

Anyone know what the fare codes are for BE?
I believe B for basic.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by born sleepy
Yep, I'm in the same boat. We use Concur but I doubt my employer is going to filter out these BE fares.

Anyone know what the fare codes are for BE?
My company filters them out currently for Delta (I've checked in Concur and Delta's website to verify).

I was also in a training recently regarding the travel policy, and they said "we won't make you fly crazy routes, or those new fares that don't let you select a seat or use the overhead bins)>
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 5:56 pm
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Medical assistive devices will continue to be exempt from carry on policies
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by joeyE
So is it possible to select the next fare bucket up on AA.com, so I can get a fare that includes some of these amenities, without going all the way to a refundable fare? Or do I just need to purchase the amenities ala carte now?
It will almost certainly be it's own column on AA.com next to Main Cabin and F. This is how Delta does it. I'm sure we'll be able to select a non-Basic fare, AA would love us to do so!

Originally Posted by mvoight
I thought elites still get overhead usage.
Yep, was corrected up thread.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 6:22 pm
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This whole thing is just stupid

As a less frequent AA lifetime gold member, this just complicates things. Having recently flown SouthWest, the experience was nice. The only real "gotcha" was to get you boarding order exactly 24 hours in advance, which we knew to do. Free baggage, no overhead premiums, and I easily changed our tickets 3 times. Thry also make it very clear what the fare is on each glight

This AA change just makes it harder to figure out the best deal. Unfortunately it's the trend of worse service, status benefits, award use, etc.

i suppose we should be thankful AA survived, but as expected it's become more and more like USAir.

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Old Jan 18, 2017, 6:30 pm
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Good to see that the personal item dimensions (18 x 14 x 8 in.) are the same as Frontier's (and Spirit's starting April 4, 2017). I have a wheeled bag that is slightly smaller than all three of those dimensions--I will be using it more.
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