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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Feb 14, 2017, 12:49 pm
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Has anyone seen these Basic Economy fares yet? I'm looking to book a trip between BOS-PHL-LGA for mid March. How do you know if you're booking a BE fare and which 10 markets are they starting with?

I want to avoid a BE fare if possible and don't want to be surprised after booking. Will it have a special fare code? My company's booking tool did not differentiate fares. It just showed a booking code.
Thanks
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Old Feb 14, 2017, 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by BMWMOT
Has anyone seen these Basic Economy fares yet? I'm looking to book a trip between BOS-PHL-LGA for mid March. How do you know if you're booking a BE fare and which 10 markets are they starting with?

I want to avoid a BE fare if possible and don't want to be surprised after booking. Will it have a special fare code? My company's booking tool did not differentiate fares. It just showed a booking code.
Thanks
People have said upthread that the fare bucket is B. I haven't noticed any changes as I book in Q/O/S usually, but I am sure it will be a separate row when you search for fares.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 9:16 am
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Went on sale today in 10 markets. In theory. Those 10 markets are not selling Y seats at all in my searches but I'm sure that'll get cleared up eventually.

I don't see the new fares filed in EF yet, either.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 9:20 am
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Doing a quick search, I see MIA-PHL loaded. The basic economy fares don't seem to be on all flights but only on the ones where the cheapest fare bucket(s) are still available.

For example, one way I'm seeing on 3/7:

- Basic Economy: $77 or $102 depending on flight
- Main Cabin: $97 or $122 depending on flight

But on a flight where Main Cabin is $193, no Basic Economy.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 9:29 am
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I found one of the MIA-PHL fares. Looks like it is filed as NUAIZNB3. I also see G, S, O & Q fares filed with the Basic Economy rule set.

I think it is the suffix on the fare filing that makes it a Basic Economy fare, not the booking class. All the fares filed in EF that I see with B1 or B3 at the end are Basic. There are also M* and N* suffixes filed.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 9:35 am
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Per Philly.com:
http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...adelphia-.html

"Basic economy" airfares on American Airlines went on sale at 10 a.m. Tuesday from Philadelphia International Airport to five cities: Dallas Fort Worth, Fort Lauderdale and Miami, Fla., New Orleans, and Charlotte, N.C.

Basic economy fares also will be available between Charlotte and Orlando, between Dallas Fort Worth and Baltimore Washington International, between Dallas and Tampa, between Miami and Tampa, and between Miami and New Orleans.

The fares initially will be available only on nonstop, and not connecting, flights.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by dw
Doing a quick search, I see MIA-PHL loaded. The basic economy fares don't seem to be on all flights but only on the ones where the cheapest fare bucket(s) are still available.

For example, one way I'm seeing on 3/7:

- Basic Economy: $77 or $102 depending on flight
- Main Cabin: $97 or $122 depending on flight

But on a flight where Main Cabin is $193, no Basic Economy.
In May there are fares of $59 Basic Economy, with Main Cabin at $90. That fare difference is a large proportion of the price. Might well be worth it for leisure travelers if they were checking a bag anyway, and don't mind taking the seat allocation lottery.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 9:53 am
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Must be glitchy on the roll-out. Doing a dummy booking DFW-PHL March 7-9 and it is only listing Main Cabin and First.

All the Main Cabin fares list as "Not Available". Only First fares for sale. No Basic Economy anywhere.

EDIT: Same thing for DFW-BWI, DFW-TPA. ...DFW-MSP, e.g. showing fares as usual. (non-Basic Econ. route)
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by econometrics
Must be glitchy on the roll-out. Doing a dummy booking DFW-PHL March 7-9 and it is only listing Main Cabin and First.

All the Main Cabin fares list as "Not Available". Only First fares for sale. No Basic Economy anywhere.

EDIT: Same thing for DFW-BWI, DFW-TPA. ...DFW-MSP, e.g. showing fares as usual. (non-Basic Econ. route)
Yup...this is happening in many markets.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 12:44 pm
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As I tweeted just now; in the basic economy training, it explicitly instructs AAgents not to apologize for the product when customers inevitably complain about it.

At least they're realistic
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by deeruck
In May there are fares of $59 Basic Economy, with Main Cabin at $90. That fare difference is a large proportion of the price. Might well be worth it for leisure travelers if they were checking a bag anyway, and don't mind taking the seat allocation lottery.
Data point:

Last night, I put two tickets on hold PHL-MIA around Thanksgiving. $92 for the one way which was a good deal. Today Basic is $92 and Main Cabin is $115. I booked my tickets today from that hold and they booked into N, not basic (which was correct), at $92, and could choose seats. Though the receipt shows $70 on the receipt for some reason, and not $92.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
As I tweeted just now; in the basic economy training, it explicitly instructs AAgents not to apologize for the product when customers inevitably complain about it.

At least they're realistic
Lol, that is greatness. Wow.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by econometrics
Must be glitchy on the roll-out. Doing a dummy booking DFW-PHL March 7-9 and it is only listing Main Cabin and First.

All the Main Cabin fares list as "Not Available". Only First fares for sale. No Basic Economy anywhere.

EDIT: Same thing for DFW-BWI, DFW-TPA. ...DFW-MSP, e.g. showing fares as usual. (non-Basic Econ. route)
I'm seeing them now on DFW-PHL. They may have just recently released bucket inventory. There are different B classes requiring 7, 14, and 21 day advance purchase. Note there are also time-of-day restrictions on the flights.

TO PHL -
PERMITTED 1201AM TO 800AM OR 730PM TO 900PM DAILY.
FROM PHL -
PERMITTED 100PM TO 230PM OR 730PM TO 900PM DAILY.

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Old Feb 21, 2017, 6:01 pm
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After a few dummy searches, I'm at least satisfied with the upfront transparency AA has implemented when selecting a BE fare. If searching from aa.com, there is an immediate and unavoidable "Are you sure?" window before proceeding. Likewise when searching on Google flights, and linking to aa.com for purchase a similar dialog makes it clear as day that a BE fare is selected, with an option to choose regular economy instead.

As someone who never intends to purchase BE, I'm just glad that they've made it seemingly impossible to book into it accidentally.

Now I just need Google to implement a filter to exclude BE fares from appearing in the search results. They do at least highlight it after selecting flights, and before clicking through to aa.com, but there's no way to tell just from looking at the initial search results.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by sjpmurph01
After a few dummy searches, I'm at least satisfied with the upfront transparency AA has implemented when selecting a BE fare. If searching from aa.com, there is an immediate and unavoidable "Are you sure?" window before proceeding. Likewise when searching on Google flights, and linking to aa.com for purchase a similar dialog makes it clear as day that a BE fare is selected, with an option to choose regular economy instead.

As someone who never intends to purchase BE, I'm just glad that they've made it seemingly impossible to book into it accidentally.

Now I just need Google to implement a filter to exclude BE fares from appearing in the search results. They do at least highlight it after selecting flights, and before clicking through to aa.com, but there's no way to tell just from looking at the initial search results.
That's interesting, b/c Google doesn't do that for BA's HBO fares.
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