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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jan 26, 2017, 11:53 pm
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Originally Posted by BarryAZ
Perhaps this is only an interim step. Eventually, they will reconfigure the planes with a pitch of 18 inches and covert the rows on 737's to 4 / 3 or even 4 / 4..
Or maybe aisle on one side of the plane only.
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Old Jan 27, 2017, 7:05 am
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Originally Posted by BarryAZ
I wonder if they could have named this instead of basic economy, in a manner consistent with their other economy naming.

That is, Economy Plus, Economy, and Economy Minus

Just wondering.
You're confusing AA with United.
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Old Jan 27, 2017, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by jay_dubya
You're confusing AA with United.
Yeah, on AA it'd be Main Cabin Extra, Main Cabin, and Main Cabin Shortchanged.
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Old Jan 27, 2017, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by MCOGUY
I fly out of MCO weekly and I see this as a nightmare waiting to happen. Families routinely ask others to switch seats as their family got split up (i.e. didn't want to pay for 'premium seats'), and this will just make it worse. Not to mention all the travelers with their Disney/Universal souvenirs they bring aboard - gate police here we come, and slow down the boarding for everyone else!
I think the real nightmare is for the GAs who are going to have to try to charge lots of Econ-- pax $25 (or whatever) for carry-on suitcases. That's got to really slow things down and make a mess!
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Old Jan 27, 2017, 12:15 pm
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Is B going to be the fare basis code for this bucket? How do we know that tickets bought before the roll-out are not lumped into this fare bucket?
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Old Jan 27, 2017, 12:33 pm
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It is B. B only. And B hasn't been sold for what, almost a year now?

Originally Posted by uxb
Is B going to be the fare basis code for this bucket? How do we know that tickets bought before the roll-out are not lumped into this fare bucket?
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Old Jan 27, 2017, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by controller1
I assume if one is already boarding with a personal item, the complimentary cinder block must remain at the gate area?
These will be deposited in recycled Bistro Bag carts positioned at the end of the jetway prior to aircraft entry.

Originally Posted by rjw242
Yeah, on AA it'd be Main Cabin Extra, Main Cabin, and Main Cabin Shortchanged.
^^ This! MCS. ROFL.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 3:02 pm
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Elite customers and eligible AAdvantage® credit cardmembers will be allowed to bring one personal item, one rollaboard, and they maintain their current free checked bag allowance.

How about others on the same itinerary? Right now free checked bags include others on my itinerary, but will that include a roller-bag and priority boarding?
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 3:09 pm
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I'm seeing a conflict of information on the AA website:

Basic Economy
Elite Qualifying Miles (EQMs) and Elite Qualifying Segments (EQSs) earned at a reduced rate of 0.5 per mile/flight segment flown
Earn and Redeem miles with American
For travel on or after January 1, 2017
Cabin | Fares booked in | EQM | EQD
Economy Y, B, W* 1.50 Yes
The bolded "B" in the quote is done by myself. Is this a matter of the AAdvantage page not being updated yet?

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Old Jan 29, 2017, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Gig103
I'm seeing a conflict of information on the AA website:





The bolded "B" in the quote is done by myself. Is this a matter of the AAdvantage page not being updated yet?
I suppose you could argue that it's not completely wrong until they're actually offering Basic "B" fares; someone might have an old "B" fare flight and want to look it up.

But they really ought to be putting up "before Feb" and "after Feb" info by now since we're so close. They might end up coming down to the wire, like they did for the new partner-earning tables on Aug 1.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 4:19 pm
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Originally Posted by pinniped
lol...that truly is a unicorn.

I'd rather have one extra pop in the lounge than board thirty minutes early to gaze longingly at an FA while she ignores my desire for a half-cup of warm Bud Lite.
LMAO. That was golden. And so true.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by BarryAZ
I wonder if they could have named this instead of basic economy, in a manner consistent with their other economy naming.

That is, Economy Plus, Economy, and Economy Minus

Just wondering.
I'm assuming for now it'll be Main Cabin Extra, Main Cabin, and Steerage.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by jay_dubya
Obvious to me that milesaaver tickets will be Regular economy tickets. No reason to think otherwise.
Just wait until Milesaaver domestic awards go from 12.5K to 15K, and they introduce a Milesaaaaver ticket that's 12.5K in the BE class.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
this fee I could live with to get out of the middle seat
I hate middle seats, too. However, I would gladly sit in a middle seat next to two customers who stay in their own space as opposed to a window seat next to a middle seat customer that impedes into my space with their upper body.
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Old Jan 30, 2017, 8:22 am
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Nightmare scenario that - I suppose it's something cultural. Every so often on a regional or a mainline economy main cabin segment I've sat next to some guy (I can't ever remember a woman doing it) who treats the seat next to him as an extension of his own. Elbowing, legs akimbo, I just don't understand it.

Originally Posted by EQDsSUCK
I hate middle seats, too. However, I would gladly sit in a middle seat next to two customers who stay in their own space as opposed to a window seat next to a middle seat customer that impedes into my space with their upper body.
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