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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 7:21 pm
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For PHL to MIA - I am only seeing around a $40 Fare difference RT. Why would anyone book BE so they could save $40 off the RT fare. If $40 RT is too much for some, then they need to question whether they can afford to travel at all.

AA needs a setting for your profile which masks out BE fares.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by cova
Why would anyone book BE so they could save $40 off the RT fare.
Isn't that kind of the point? A lot of these fares will be sold to travelers who just don't know any better.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by cova
For PHL to MIA - I am only seeing around a $40 Fare difference RT. Why would anyone book BE so they could save $40 off the RT fare. If $40 RT is too much for some, then they need to question whether they can afford to travel at all.

AA needs a setting for your profile which masks out BE fares.
Conversely, why would people want to pay $40 more than they need to - hardly needing to question whether someone can afford to travel when choosing fares that meet their needs
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 5:33 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
Conversely, why would people want to pay $40 more than they need to - hardly needing to question whether someone can afford to travel when choosing fares that meet their needs
+1, I struggle with that question as well given the dynamic nature of pricing. On WN, pax have the ability to exchange their tickets w/o penalty; thus, allowing pax to recoup the difference when the price changes. Most never do this, but I've saved tonnes of money and points this way.
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
Conversely, why would people want to pay $40 more than they need to - hardly needing to question whether someone can afford to travel when choosing fares that meet their needs
Problem is most who will buy BE likely won't realize they will not be able to check their bag at the gate for free, like those in the last boarding group can now. And you will have people trying to board with a roller bag and having to be pulled out of line and pay for their bag. And then they get hit with a high fee, which is more than the $40 savings. Not sure what that fee is - I think Spirit charges $100 for gate check.

I am not sure if rear middle seats matter to those people (that is what they get now). But many times those don't have seat assignments and wind up getting premium center seats in the forward part or even exit rows when those are the last seats.

Remains to be seen how this is going to work out.
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 7:20 am
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As I said before, AA is just charging what "O" fare use to be and coded as a "B" (Basic or Bullsh**) fare. Of course, "O" still exist at a higher rate.

I have seen MIA-TPA-MIA as low as $80~100 in "O" for R/T, now is $92 for "B" and the lowest "O" fare is $133"
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 7:26 am
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Originally Posted by fedechat
As I said before, AA is just charging what "O" fare use to be and coded as a "B" (Basic or Bullsh**) fare. Of course, "O" still exist at a higher rate.

I have seen MIA-TPA-MIA as low as $80~100 in "O" for R/T, now is $92 for "B" and the lowest "O" fare is $133"
Q was the lowest fare before B was re-introduced.
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 7:36 am
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For BE - if you bring your roller bag to the gate - the fee to check it is cost of a checked bag plus $25 fee. So say $50 - more than $40.

If on regular main cabin fare, AA lets you gate check your bag for free regardless of status and many have gotten used too that - pay at the counter or free at the gate and they choose free at the gate.

I suppose if you have dual residences - you many not need to carry a bag.

But the gate announcements will be interesting, like:

Gate agent example - if your boarding pass shows Basic Economy (Group 9) and you have brought a roller bag to the gate, you must come to the counter to check it and pay the cost of the checked bag plus a $25 fee. If your boarding pass says Group 1 - 8, and you are in the later boarding groups, you can check your bag complementary at the gate.

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Old Feb 22, 2017, 9:01 am
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What's disconcerting to me at the moment as a business traveler is that these B fares are showing up in my corporate booking portal. It isn't possible within the system my company uses to select alternate fare codes, so I have to pick alternate flights where B isn't available if I want to avoid it. As the rollout expands I'm afraid I could be in real trouble here.
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by uxb
Q was the lowest fare before B was re-introduced.
Are you sure? the best deals I have seen in the past for Domestic/International was "O" fare, and you can even verify that with EF or ITA
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by fedechat
Are you sure? the best deals I have seen in the past for Domestic/International was "O" fare, and you can even verify that with EF or ITA
Yes, I'm sure it's Q. That's how all of my bargain basement fares (incl. mistake fares) have ever booked.
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by asf-07
What's disconcerting to me at the moment as a business traveler is that these B fares are showing up in my corporate booking portal. It isn't possible within the system my company uses to select alternate fare codes, so I have to pick alternate flights where B isn't available if I want to avoid it. As the rollout expands I'm afraid I could be in real trouble here.
I imagine if you started expensing the fees to check your rollaboard, someone would wise up and fix the glitch pretty quickly. (Then again, I am assuming rational behavior from a corporate travel department, which is probably a bad assumption.)
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by jordyn
I imagine if you started expensing the fees to check your rollaboard, someone would wise up and fix the glitch pretty quickly. (Then again, I am assuming rational behavior from a corporate travel department, which is probably a bad assumption.)
The company might query why there are expense claims given that the poster has status and is allowed to take a bag on anyway, or can check a bag for free
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
The company might query why there are expense claims given that the poster has status and is allowed to take a bag on anyway, or can check a bag for free
+1, a major disadvantage to this fare bucket is not the draconian baggage rules. Instead, it's the 0,5 EQM rate that should steer many of us clear. At a time when AA has made retaining status hard, booking in B will make it damn near impossible.
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Old Feb 22, 2017, 12:19 pm
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+1, a major disadvantage to this fare bucket is not the draconian baggage rules. Instead, it's the 0,5 EQM rate that should steer many of us clear. At a time when AA has made retaining status hard, booking in B will make it damn near impossible.
That , however, seems to be something that would not be of concern to the company paying for the flight
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