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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 6:48 pm
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It's now.. US Air

Originally Posted by Kneel
...........

i suppose we should be thankful AA survived, but as expected it's become more and more like USAir.
You are absolutely spot on. The AA we all new (in my case for the last 35 years) is gone. It is NOW.... US air. And that IS too bad... as I do not think that HAD to be.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by badkneeski
Already told my admin I would rather fly Southwest than on one of these fares. Use it or lose it, no standby, no same-day changes is a non-starter for me.
If I wanted to fly Frontier or Spirit - i would. Or even Southwest for that manner. There is a reason I pay more for AA. Watch, the fares for Main Coach now will be the basic economy and those Main Coach fares are going to resemble Full Fare Coach.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 7:21 pm
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AA has decided it no longer has a goal of being the best airline. I predict a large segment of AA customers will move to other carriers.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by FLYDCA
If my corporate booking system elects not to filter out these fares I'm going to be far less likely to select AA
That would be my nightmare
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by AA Flyer
You are absolutely spot on. The AA we all new (in my case for the last 35 years) is gone. It is NOW.... US air. And that IS too bad... as I do not think that HAD to be.
I come from the pmAA side of the house and I didn't want this merger. Having said that: the airlines have been playing monkey-see monkey-do for a while now. This is more AA being DL and UA than US, and probably would have happened even without the merger (though no possible way to know that for sure of course).
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 7:23 pm
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delete. jumped ahead to last few pages and didn't see the half segment mentioned. my bad.

Last edited by flyerguy1975; Jan 18, 2017 at 7:29 pm Reason: jumped ahead to last few pages and didn't see reference
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerguy1975
Has this been mentioned already about the half segment earned?

http://news.aa.com/press-releases/pr...e/default.aspx

......AAdvantage – Full AAdvantage miles and Elite Qualifying Dollars may be earned when purchasing these fares; however, only one-half Elite Qualifying Mile will be earned per mile flown, and one-half Elite Qualifying Segment per segment flown.

Upgrades – Not permitted, regardless of elite status level.

Tickets – Non-refundable, non-changeable. Use it or lose it. No same-day flight change or same-day standby.
Uh, perhaps Post #1?
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Often1
So now, all three legacies have some version of a rock bottom fare which everybody swears that nobody will buy and will cause the commercial air business to go into a tailspin (economically, not physically). There is then a rant about the fact that these fares are not really new lower fares, simply the lowest fares and that is somehow wrong.

The fact is that DL made a go of it, the fares apparently work, UA is introducing them, and now AA.

The DL website does a great job of disclosure and it's hard to book one without knowing that you're buying something bottom of the barrel. But, people apparently do.

The OH issue is a red herring. More often than not, if you are in the last BG on a typical full narrow body, there won't be much if any OH space so it really doesn't matter whether the rules permit a carry-on or not. If the aircraft is empty and the GA lets the BE's in BG 100 board with an extra bag, nobody is going to care.
Maybe AA knows this and is trying to get more fee revenue in general? Since gate checks are usually offered for free, now the non-status BE passengers will be forced to check a bag.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
I cover it here:
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/821538827084988416

(not all members of all groups included therein):


Then 5,6,7,8,9
No idea how they'll be called.
Isnt this really just the same as it is now (5 zones after all elites/pre-board/FC/military?
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by GoPhils
Maybe AA knows this and is trying to get more fee revenue in general? Since gate checks are usually offered for free, now the non-status BE passengers will be forced to check a bag.
Of course. But, in theory at least most gate checks now are for bags which can't be carried because there is no space. Maybe now that AA is charging for BE gate checks, it will start charging for other passengers trying to lug non-compliant bags onboard. That would be a good thing as nothing slows down the boarding process more than the fools lugging steamer trunks on "because they fit the OH."
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 8:15 pm
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Add me to the list of folks extremely unconcered by these fares.

My company's policy is lowest "reasonable" Y.

These are anything but reasonable.

Originally Posted by arkyrab
AA has decided it no longer has a goal of being the best airline. I predict a large segment of AA customers will move to other carriers.
What other carriers?

UA - has these fares.
DL - has these fares.
WN - nice little airline but no elite benefits to speak of, no meaningful international service
F9, NK - lol
B6, AS - good options if their limited route networks work for you.

There are reasons to jump carriers, I don't see this as one. Given that everyone is doing it.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by hiima
I believe B for basic.
Hm, I thought B was a nearly-full fare economy ticket. YBM then the cheap ones. Maybe I'm still thinking of UA.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 8:37 pm
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Originally Posted by born sleepy
Hm, I thought B was a nearly-full fare economy ticket. YBM then the cheap ones. Maybe I'm still thinking of UA.
Used to be. B fares were removed last year in preparation to use the fare bucket for something else. Guess we know that something else is now.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 8:39 pm
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I can't wait to see how the boarding process happens once these fares are implemented. For frequent flyers, no big deal, we all know the rules and the ins and outs.
For the infrequent flyer, who purchases the lowest rate on a legacy carrier thinking it includes a carry on bag....yikes-o.
I predict huge drama in the gate area during boarding group 24, or whatever insanely high number AA has given that last group.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by jbdk
If I wanted to fly Frontier or Spirit - i would. Or even Southwest for that manner. There is a reason I pay more for AA. Watch, the fares for Main Coach now will be the basic economy and those Main Coach fares are going to resemble Full Fare Coach.
^^ Couldn't agree more.
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