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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by scnzzz
As long as GA's can enforce the group order for boarding (which to me is a stretch, particularly with 9(!) groups) then this works.
I can count on one hand the # of times I've seen a GA properly enforce a boarding procedure. I'm often boarding in F with tons of people in Group 2 trying to board with me (not with elites or other F pax) and almost never see the GAs doing anything about it.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:33 am
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Before boarding, they set up 10 roped areas, one for each group (based on bp) [X, 1-9; X is elites, FC etc.]. The only trouble with this scheme is there would NOT be enough space/gate to set it up.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:35 am
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Maybe for a short flight like MIA/ATL although I would tend to think the savings on a flight like that might be minimal. 32E from MIA to LAX is not how I would want to spend my time.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:40 am
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Yuck, so it seems like Delta now has the best "basic economy" setup. Just more $$$ for the airlines, if I wanted to fly MCO-MIA on AA and the fare right now for economy is $99, with this setup the basic economy fare will be $99 and the next step up will be $129.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:40 am
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I see elites not getting upgrade, especially EXP not getting complimentary upgrade on domestic flights, is big one. Can see EXP pay more for non-Basic Economy fares to get complimentary upgrade. I wonder how many EXPs will not have problem with Basic Economy?
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:41 am
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After 10 years of being elite. I am done..I know in the eyes of AA this is supposed to be a good thing. AA nickel and dimes their elites to no end. I hope someone wakes up and realizes they are making dumb decisions. I just got granted a Gold challenge with United. See ya AA.... you bunch of bozos


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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by ty97
It was a very believable post that had me for a bit, until I got the unrealistic suggestion that PDBs might be a thing that exists.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:48 am
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Sucks big time. How will they handle folks with DME? I can't believe, that they could legally deny them bin space for it. And as the other basic economy airlines have showed, there won't be a decrease in price for BE, but just an increase of $10-30 each way for normal seats.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:59 am
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Looks like the complimentary upgrades for EXP and Plat Pro are not complimentary after all.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 11:02 am
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After 10 years of being elite. I am done..I know in the eyes of AA this is supposed to be a good thing. AA nickel and dimes their elites to no end. I hope someone wakes up and realizes they are making dumb decisions. I just got granted a Gold challenge with United. See ya AA.... you bunch of bozos


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Be warned that UA announced a highly similar basic economy scheme prior to AA's announcement. The majors basically all copy each other nowadays, so you will find much of the same nickel and diming on UA too.

This is not a defense of AA or of any of these practices, nor it is me questioning your decision (I decamped to DL last year, for a variety of reasons, after basically a decade as EXP). But if you are going to chase status anywhere nowadays, you are going to run into these issues (in some form or another).
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by ty97
Be warned that UA announced a highly similar basic economy scheme prior to AA's announcement. The majors basically all copy each other nowadays, so you will find much of the same nickel and diming on UA too.

This is not a defense of AA or of any of these practices, nor it is me questioning your decision (I decamped to DL last year, for a variety of reasons, after basically a decade as EXP). But if you are going to chase status anywhere nowadays, you are going to run into these issues (in some form or another).
There is a multitude of reasons for me leaving. Being based in Pit, i have many options. I realize United is bad in many ways. I even have southwest to fall back on if nothing works. just tired of all the bs the airlines are playing. my best option will prob be to not be loyal to any airline.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 11:11 am
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While I'm skeptical of AA's ability to implement the new boarding system, I welcome the attempt. At worst, it's as terrible as the current (rarely followed) way of doing things.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 11:18 am
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I see elites not getting upgrade, especially EXP not getting complimentary upgrade on domestic flights, is big one. Can see EXP pay more for non-Basic Economy fares to get complimentary upgrade. I wonder how many EXPs will not have problem with Basic Economy?
Considering the flights count for half the EQM and each segment counts as HALF A SEGMENT, I doubt an EXP flying these regularly would/could maintain EXP.

Separately, I wonder how pre-boarding wheelchair BE passengers will work if the BP scanner won't let them board until group 9. What about active duty military who are on a BE fare? "Thank you for your service, but we haven't called the bottom of the barrel to board yet?"

As long as AA's site doesn't try to push me toward these fares when I book, I'll be fine with this. If it's difficult to find regular coach fares and AA sees this as an opportunity to jack up regular coach prices, I'll become a free agent.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 11:20 am
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Several people offered the opinion that this will not affect frequent fliers. In my case it might; my company's travel policy says we have to take the lowest available fare. I doubt our TA is going to offer normal Y fares if a BE fare is available. Unless the company changes the policy, I'm going to either be stuck in BE or have to regularly up-fare out of my own pocket.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 11:21 am
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So happy I no longer travel via air that much. I will just use Southwest.
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