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Old Jan 3, 2016, 9:48 am
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Note: Live AA baggage tracking became available 15 Sep 2015. Bags are scanned at several points, and using the app you can generally see where your bags are. Not all airports have this capability.

Originally Posted by LPDAL
Bags at hubs are “mega scanned” or scanned at every point of contact. The first point of scan would most likely be the sorter where the bag is sent to the corresponding belt where the flight is being loaded.

Bags that miss their flights are delivered to the expeditor(s) who handle IROPS bags and send them on their way. Most likely, the bag is sent on the next AA flight. We are able to send bags on various other airlines but sending them on our own metal is always preferable.
Track your bags Link
September 18, 2015:

Hello, Addressee,
AAdvantage <status tier> Number:

You can now follow your checked bags from check-in to carousel with your smartphone, laptop or tablet. See real-time information about your bag's status, including when your bag is checked in, on a plane or at baggage claim. All you need is your bag tag number or your record locator.

And, if your flight has Wi-Fi onboard, you can track your bags in the air for free.

Here's how to get started:
  • Go to aa.com/baggage
  • Click "Track your bags"
  • Enter your last name and bag tag # or record locator

Keep track of your bags from check-in to touchdown using your record locator or bag tag number.
NOTE: On itineraries with more than one airline, the responsible airline for lost or delayed baggage is the final carrier; that carrier's procedures may differ from AA's. In any case, most do require if you arrive at your destination and your baggage has not arrived (or has been damaged), be sure to fill out a baggage claim form prior to leaving the airport

What if I need clothing or toiletries because my baggage is missing?

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Reimbursement

We will reimburse you for items you need immediately while away from home without your bags. Within 45 days of your delay, please send us:

Your 13-character file reference number
A copy of your ticket receipt and baggage claim checks
Your original, dated, itemized receipts

Send verification items to:

American Airlines Central Baggage
4000 East Sky Harbor Boulevard
Phoenix, AZ 85034

Fax: 480-693-2305
American Airlines: Delayed Baggage: Baggage delayed less than 5 days
Phone: +1-800-535-5225
24 hours, 7 days a week

Baggage delayed longer than 5 days
See www.aa.com/bagstatus for further information.[/color][color="Navy"]
American Airlines: Delayed or missing baggage:

We do our best to ensure that your checked bag travels on the same flight with you. If your bag does not arrive on your flight, our goal is to return your bag to you within 24 hours. The measures may take longer for international itineraries due to flight frequency or Customs and Immigration procedures.

Note: These procedures apply when American Airlines or American Eagle are taking you to your final destination.

If you are unable to locate your checked bag:

Notify an American Airlines/American Eagle baggage service agent prior to leaving the airport (If you purchased the American Airlines baggage delivery service provided through BAGS VIP Luggage Delivery in advance of travel, notification must be made within 12 hours of the arrival of the flight on which you traveled.)
  • You will be given a confidential file locator ID and a brochure explaining the recovery process
  • Our Baggage Service desk will contact you periodically to keep you informed of our progress in locating your bag (aspirational statement)
  • Refer to your confidential six-letter file locator (not your PNR) in all conversation and correspondence regarding your delayed bag
  • Use your last name and confidential six-letter baggage file locator (not your PNR)to check the status of your bag.Check Baggage Status

If your bag isn't located in five (5) days:
  • Central Baggage Service will take over the tracing effort
  • Fill out and return a Property Questionnaire within 30 days from the date you traveled
  • Available on the 6th day at www.aa.com/bagstatus.
  • Mailed to your permanent address within 10 days of your travel date.
  • Complete the questionnaire in its entirety including specific details such as colors, sizes, brand names and logos as well as information such as book titles, medication, electronics, gifts, souvenirs and food items
  • Retain a copy for your records

If you’re unable to submit online, you can send your claim and verification items by mail or fax.

American Airlines Central Baggage
4000 East Sky Harbor Boulevard
Phoenix, AZ 85034
Fax: 480-693-2305

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Damaged baggage:

Prompt notification of a damaged bag helps us get your property to you promptly therefore all American Airlines and American Eagle airport locations are equipped to handle the initial report, evaluation and settlement of damage claims. If your bag is damaged, please notify us:
  • In person before leaving the airport
  • At the latest, within 24 hours after you receive your bag for domestic itineraries
  • Within 7 days for international itineraries

Please notify us as soon as possible. Failure to report damage to baggage within the prescribed time limit releases American Airlines and American Eagle from any liability.
Wheels, "protuberances" etc. please see:

Notice regarding damage to wheels, handles, and other components of checked baggage

Baggage_Guidance_rev_11242015.pdf (link)

About this Document

In September 2015, the Office of Aviation Enforcement and Proceedings (Enforcement Office) conducted extensive inspections of U.S. and foreign air carriers’ operations at 16 U.S. airports. The Enforcement Office found, among other things, that carriers routinely exclude from liability damage to specific parts of checked baggage, such as wheels, straps, zippers, handles, and protruding parts. Carriers often post signs indicating that they categorically refuse to compensate passengers for such items. In some instances, carrier agents also discouraged or refused to accept reports of such damage.
If from an international flight, Article 17 of the Montreal Convention applies; see below. The final operating carrier is responsible for locating and returning, or compensating the checking passenger if not delivered within 21 days.

"The Montreal Convention changes and generally increases the maximum liability of airlines for lost baggage to a fixed amount 1,131 SDR per passenger (the amount in the Warsaw Convention is based on weight of the baggage). It requires airlines to fully compensate travellers the cost of replacement items purchased until the baggage is delivered, to a maximum of 1,131 SDR (XDR currency code, ~$1,652 May 2017). At 21 days any delayed baggage is considered lost, even if the airline delivers it after that period."
The SDR on 28 Aug 2017 was valued at $1.42, so 1,131 SDR was approximately $1,603.00. Use this link to convert SDR to USD.

Link to aa.com Delayed Baggage; FAQ.

Link to aa.com LIABILITY LIMITATIONS regarding baggage - but see

USDOT reminder to airlines compensation is due for damaged wheels, straps, etc.

Link to aa.com DAMAGED BAGGAGE

Link to aa.com Delayed Baggage tracking form (need baggage claim file locator number to use)

American Airlines Conditions of Carriage (See BAGGAGE et seq., including Liability.)

Link to PDF about baggage damage and loss by Christopher Cotter, Attorney at Law.

[QUOTE]Q. I flew internationally. What rules governs baggage damage or loss?

Article 17 of the Montreal Convention:

"2. The carrier liable for damage sustained in case of destruction or loss of, or of damage to, checked baggage upon condition only that the event which caused the destruction, loss or damage took place on board the aircraft or during any period within which the checked baggage was in the charge of the carrier. However, the carrier is not liable if and to the extent that the damage resulted from the inherent defect, quality or vice of the baggage. In the case of unchecked baggage, including personal items, the carrier is liable if the damage resulted from its fault or that of its servants or agents.

3. If the carrier admits the loss of the checked baggage, or if the checked baggage has not arrived at the expiration of twenty-one days after the date on which it ought to have arrived, the passenger is entitled to enforce against the carrier the rights which flow from the contract of carriage.

4. Unless otherwise specified, in this Convention the term "baggage" means both checked baggage and unchecked baggage."

Q. What can I do to help prevent or resolve baggage loss?
  • Don't place valuables in your checked baggage; such loss is generally not covered by airline policy. Some airports have higher pilferage and theft rates.
  • Have two baggage tags, affixed at different points on each bag; handles do get torn off
  • Use a baggage belt: some have TSA-approved locks, and a belt may keep your bag from spilling contents if it becomes damaged. A bright color helps distinguish your bag from similar ones.
  • Add a pom, ribbon or other device enabling you - and others - to distinguish your bag from similar / identical bags.
  • Have identifying information and an itinerary inside your case where it will be seen if the bag is opened (which will occur if external tags are lost).
  • Some use an itinerary tag such as this Magellan's retriever tags.
  • Have a photo or two of your bags on your smartphone to show the baggage clerk exactly what your bag looks like.


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Old Feb 22, 2021, 8:01 am
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Thanks everyone. Pretty much what I figured. Kind of annoying because I've shipped dozens of bottles of alcohol via UPS and never had a single one broken.

My bag was overweight by 5lbs and the gate agent was being a stickler for the rules, so I had to remove two bottles and have them packed separately. Of course it was my most expensive bottle of añejo that broke and not my cheaper ones.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 8:09 am
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Don't blame ANY agents for not following the published rules!

The mistakes/leniency of other agents in the past, do not make any wrongs right!
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by dave_261
I don't see alcohol or glass bottles excluded, although they do exclude 'liquids'.
Too bad OP didn't freeze their alcohol...
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 8:19 am
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Liquids are a specific exclusion. Presuming that OP's alcohol was in liquid form, he's SOL.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 8:54 am
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You have My Sincere Condolences , Airline Tragedies are Rough. I suggest you and the Survivor spend some Quality time, and Remember your good friend Anejo! RT
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 8:57 am
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I once saw a soft-sided duffel bag with about a dozen bottles come down the chute when we were collecting our bags from a Channel hydrofoil crossing. You could here the contents clanking together in the bag. There did not appear to be any padding and the liquid was just running out of the bag. The owner was very upset.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 9:32 am
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Originally Posted by richb3125
I once saw a soft-sided duffel bag with about a dozen bottles come down the chute when we were collecting our bags from a Channel hydrofoil crossing. You could here the contents clanking together in the bag. There did not appear to be any padding and the liquid was just running out of the bag. The owner was very upset.
LOL, how dumb can someone be?

The bottle lost was Fortaleza Añejo which cost about $55 in Mexico, but costs about $90 in the US. It was a Los Abuelos marked bottle and not Fortaleza, so that made it a bit more special. Of course it was the nicest bottle I bought that broke. The cheaper ones didn't break at all.

I got about 1/4oz out of the bottle and was able to enjoy it. I suppose I could have wrung out my clothes, but it ain't that good of a tequila.

One time I went to Texas and brought back a bunch of salsa and queso in jars. I had everything packed perfectly, but TSA decided to inspect the bag and basically threw everything back in there in a disorganized fashion. One of the salsa jars broke and got salsa EVERYWHERE. Imagine trying to clean that out of clothes.

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Old Feb 22, 2021, 3:14 pm
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Imagine the problems of the other people on the flight..."Honestly, sweetheart, it was a business trip. I have no idea why my clothes smell like tequila."
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 5:30 pm
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Was underage (16) bringing home a bottle of (probably terrible; what does a 16 year old California kid know about cognac?) cognac for my alcoholic Ma from a high-school Paris trip and had it shatter inside my bag on the ORY-JFK flight (on a Capitol Air DC-8, even!). The Customs guy gave me major stink-eye but seeing how the booze was clearly undrinkable he let me pass, with my bag trailing a dribble of hi-octane cheap brandy behind me.
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Old Feb 26, 2021, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by born sleepy
Was underage (16) bringing home a bottle of (probably terrible; what does a 16 year old California kid know about cognac?) cognac for my alcoholic Ma from a high-school Paris trip and had it shatter inside my bag on the ORY-JFK flight (on a Capitol Air DC-8, even!). The Customs guy gave me major stink-eye but seeing how the booze was clearly undrinkable he let me pass, with my bag trailing a dribble of hi-octane cheap brandy behind me.
The old days. Flew home from Israel with bottle of Sabra when 14 years old. The only problem was that you had to be 21 to get it in duty free (a stranger helped by claiming it was their bottle) but no one cared that I was 14. Also flew home from summer camp (PSA airlines) when 16 years old with my carry-on being a beer keg (those tiny ones that held like a gallon or two). No one cared.
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Old Feb 26, 2021, 11:25 pm
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I remember travelling LAX-CDG-HAJ, with my dad & his lady, back in the mid-90s.
They bought 2 cartons of Marlboro duty-free at LAX, 2 cartons on-board and 3 more cartons at CDG. As they had a later flight to HAJ, we split ways at CDG and my dad thought it was a good idea to stuff all the cigarettes in my carry-on; assuming that I would not be checked by customs.

End of the story - I arrived at HAJ with 1.400 cigarettes in my possesion, exceeding the limit by 1.200 - as a 16-year old non-smoker!
My dad was right...it worked out, but he was an a-hole for pullin' that stunt!
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Old Mar 3, 2021, 5:04 am
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Delayed bags, reimbursement

Bags were 48 hrs delayed. Rep on phone told me I would be reimbursed for "necessary and reasonable" expenses but that she could offer no further definition of that term. Spent $700 to replace items that were in my luggage. Sent in receipts and got a check from AA. Getting bags delayed worked out well in this case. What is the most people have gotten from AA for delayed bags?
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Old Mar 3, 2021, 6:40 am
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I have fortunately not had that issue, but I'm glad to see that AA stepped up to the plate and provided you with proper reimbursement.
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Old Mar 3, 2021, 7:03 am
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Originally Posted by DltaSchmlta
Bags were 48 hrs delayed. Rep on phone told me I would be reimbursed for "necessary and reasonable" expenses but that she could offer no further definition of that term. Spent $700 to replace items that were in my luggage. Sent in receipts and got a check from AA. Getting bags delayed worked out well in this case. What is the most people have gotten from AA for delayed bags?
Is this an insurance you buy or part of the ticket agreement?
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Old Mar 3, 2021, 7:23 am
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hard to say... have not checked a bag in more then 15years.
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