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Old Apr 24, 2019, 11:32 pm
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State of the widebody aircraft Premium Economy retrofit 1st half of 2019

The 787-8 retrofit standardizes 788 seating at C20, W28, Y186 (of which 42 are MCE). Refitting took two weeks per airframe, and two were in the shop at Paine Field at any one time. AA begins selling Premium Economy tickets as if 1 May (if not before) on the 787-8.

787-8 Current Status as of 24 April April 2019: NO J28 788s left in service, refit completed.:

REFIT TO PE: N800AN was the test article / prototype (PAE Sep 2018), N816AA was the last (returned to service 24 Apr 2019).

List of (20) existing Boeing 787-8s: (reg # / fleet #)

N800AN / 8AA (refitted to 20 J seats, Premium Economy - test article)
N801AC / 8AB (refitted)
N802AN / 8AC (refitted)
N803AL / 8AD (refitted)
N804AN / 8AE (refitted)
N805AN / 8AF (refitted)
N806AA / 8AG (refitted)
N807AA / 8AH (refitted)
N808AN / 8AJ (refitted)
N809AA / 8AK (refitted)
N810AN / 8AL (refitted)
N811AB / 8AM (refitted)
N812AA / 8AN (refitted)
N813AN / 8AP (refitted)
N814AA / 8AR (refitted)
N815AA / 8AS (refitted)
N816AA / 8AT (refitted)
N817AN / 8AU (refitted)
N818AL / 8AV (refitted)
N819AN / 8AW (refitted)

Aircraft movement to / from to PAE for retrofitting in 2019:

N810AN to PAE 9 Jan from DFW
N812AA to PAE 11 Jan from DFW
N809AA to PAE 24 Jan from ORD
N812AA back in service 24 Jan
N802AN to PAE 29 Jan from DFW
N810AN back in service 24 Jan
N806AA to PAE 02 Feb
N809AA back in service 03 Feb
N802AN back in service 08 Feb
N803AL to KPAE 8 Feb
N811AB to KPAE 12 Feb
N803AL back in service 18 Feb
N805AN to KPAE 20 Feb
N811AB back in service 23 Feb
N804AN to KPAE 23 Feb
N805AN back in service 28 Feb (to ORD)
N814AN and N817AN to KPAE 4 March (from ORD)
N804AN back in service 4 March (to ORD)
N807AA to KPAE 10 March (from ORD)
N817AN back in service 10 March (to ORD)
N814AN back in service 13 March (to DFW)
N819AN / 8AW to PAE 20 Mar
N807AA back in service 20 March (from DFW)
N813AN back in service 25 March (from DFW)
N808AN to PAE 25 Mar
N819AN back in service 29 March
N818AL to PAE 30 Mar
N801AC to PAE 6 April
N808AN back in service 6 April (to DFW)
N818AL back in service 10 April (to DFW)
N815AA to PAE 11 April
N816AA to PAE 17 April
N801AC to ORD 17 Apr
N815AA to DFW 20 Apr
N816AA to ORD 24 Apr

Thanks to econometrics, b]golfingboy, hawkfan7314,
jvel, rjlon, United857!

Last updated on 24 April 2019

NOTE: There are no J28 - without Premium Economy 788s in service as of 17 April 2019. See (unofficial) American Fleet Site here for fairly current listings..

All Boeing 787-9 have Premium Economy “out of the box”.

All Boeing 777-300ER / 77W have been refitted with Premium Economy

All 777-200ER / 772 All have been refitted with 37 Business seats and have Premium Economy.

All Airbus A330-200s have been refitted with Premium Economy. (A330-300s are ultimately scheduled for retirement and will not be fitted with PE at this time.)

Review of 772 PE by ThePointsGuy HERE. Photos below from ThePointsGuy.

AA Rockwell Collins MiQ Premium Economy seats
(only bulkhead Seats have legrests)

and


See New 777-300 / 77W Config with Premium Economy as of Dec 2017

Link to AA Premium Economy page.

Not being retrofitted with Premium Economy seats:

  • 767-300ER / 763
  • A330-300

AA has begun offering AA (only) Premium Economy awards.

Link to AA press release announcing Premium Economy

Link to virtual PEY experience on aa.com

Link to Ft. Worth Star-Telegram article

Link to Chicago Tribune article

Link to Gary Leff - View from the Wing blog

Link to Australian Business Traveller blog

Link to archived "Speculation" thread.

Older posts from 2018 have been archived and can be read here.

Older posts from 2015-2017 have been archived and can be read here.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by geo1005
This would be ideal - I have MCE seats (row 8) for ORD-LHR in mid-April. The chance of getting a PE equipped 788 is highly likely.

Are there any data points of confirmed MCE reservations in row 8 or 9 getting moved back to rows 10 or higher in MCE once the swap to a PE equipped plane occurred?

This would be interesting to know. When I booked my DFW-CDG leaving in 10 days I was in PE. Since that time, I was bumped to MCE seat 8C due to equipment change. I still have my fingers crossed that my flight will be on retrofitted plane and back in PE.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by geo1005
This would be ideal - I have MCE seats (row 8) for ORD-LHR in mid-April. The chance of getting a PE equipped 788 is highly likely.

Are there any data points of confirmed MCE reservations in row 8 or 9 getting moved back to rows 10 or higher in MCE once the swap to a PE equipped plane occurred?
At least flying domestically I haven't observed anyone other than Seats B and K getting moved out of rows 8 and 9 on the switch to the PE configration. I can report back again based on my flight tomorrow, but this has been pretty consistent. Keep an eye on the equipment changing back and forth though, I've also seen it move the PE configuration, people grab rows 6 and 7, then it move back to MCE and people get booted form there to the back of the plane.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
At least flying domestically I haven't observed anyone other than Seats B and K getting moved out of rows 8 and 9 on the switch to the PE configration. I can report back again based on my flight tomorrow, but this has been pretty consistent. Keep an eye on the equipment changing back and forth though, I've also seen it move the PE configuration, people grab rows 6 and 7, then it move back to MCE and people get booted form there to the back of the plane.
I’m flying at the very end of April. Seated in row 8. I wonder what happens if all planes are retrofitted by that date. Will they start selling right away or wait until official roll out in June?
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by gateH15

I’m flying at the very end of April. Seated in row 8. I wonder what happens if all planes are retrofitted by that date. Will they start selling right away or wait until official roll out in June?
The conclusion of this retrofit is expected to be in June; I don’t think they’ll be finished in April at the current pace, even though it’s fairly speedy for a refit.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by JDiver
The conclusion of this retrofit is expected to be in June; I don’t think they’ll be finished in April at the current pace, even though it’s fairly speedy for a refit.
that’s good news. Really hoping to get PE seat on my LHR ORD flight.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by gateH15

I’m flying at the very end of April. Seated in row 8.
I'm in row 8 as well. On the off-chance you have not already done so, make sure you're not booked in 8B or 8K as those seats do not exist in the PE version of the 788.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by geo1005
I'm in row 8 as well. On the off-chance you have not already done so, make sure you're not booked in 8B or 8K as those seats do not exist in the PE version of the 788.
thanks. Yeah I stay away from B and K seats on 787 for now. Same as I stay away from row 7 on 737 until oasis is over
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 8:09 pm
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N814AA heading back to DFW tonight. Will do AA263 to PEK tomorrow (14 March).
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 8:24 pm
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That’s 12 or 2/3 of the 788 fleet refitted. Eight to go. No recent movements newer than N827AN, to KPAE, but ATS might be hustling and sweating the 738 Oasis Space bin foulup.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 7:47 am
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N813AN off to PAE from DFW this AM.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 8:55 am
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N817AN needs to be updated in the wiki. It exited on 3/10 to ORD.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by United857
N817AN needs to be updated in the wiki. It exited on 3/10 to ORD.
Thanks for noticing. Done.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 10:19 am
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N807AA also entered PAE from ORD on 3/10 the same day 817 exited.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by United857
N807AA also entered PAE from ORD on 3/10 the same day 817 exited.
Thanks. I updated that in the Wiki, too. I don't usually update the Wiki when I post the frame movements here, as I usually do it via mobile and find updating the Wiki on my phone to be a bit cumbersome.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by econometrics
Thanks. I updated that in the Wiki, too. I don't usually update the Wiki when I post the frame movements here, as I usually do it via mobile and find updating the Wiki on my phone to be a bit cumbersome.
Thanks! I would do it myself if I had enough posts to have wiki editing privileges.
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