Apr 5, 2016, 6:48 pm
Last edit by: econometrics
Boeing 787-9 (789): Discussion of 787-9 AA as of 6 Oct 2016
22 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners were ordered in total by American Airlines.
Related threads:
Boeing 787-9 / 789: Best Business (B/E Super Diamond) Seat, Service (master thd)
Boeing 787-9 / 789: Coach, MCE & Premium Economy Seat, Service (master thd)
Retaining the wingspan of the 787-8, the 787-9 is a lengthened and strengthened variant with a 20 feet (6.1 m) longer fuselage and a 54,500 pounds (24,700 kg) higher maximum take-off weight (MTOW), seating 280 passengers in a typical three-class arrangement over a 7,635 nautical miles (8,786 mi; 14,140 km) range. Link to Wikipedia article.
- 30 Business class seats
- 21 Premium Economy seats
- 234 economy seats (207 Main Cabin, 27 Main Cabin Extra)
...we learned that American would be installing the B/E Aerospace Super Diamond seat on their (~half the 772 fleet) 777-200, A350, and 787 aircraft going forward. These are the same types of business class seats as on Air Canada, China Airlines, Qatar Airways, Virgin Australia, etc. (EXCEPT the AA seats will not offer privacy dividers for the Center pair of seats) Link to One Mile at a Time article
AA will receive an additional 10 787-9s in 2017 and will receive the final 8 in 2018. AA has ordered a total of 22 787-9s to complement its 20 787-8s. These will have the General Electric GEnx-1B engines.
787 Blog
The 787 blog, which is very accurate, has posted additional 787-9 delivery dates. These are the scheduled delivery dates for the ten 787-9 scheduled to arrive in 2017. Its actually going to be a while before these aircraft really start to show up en masse as AA is taking its final three 787-8s in February and March. It won't be until next summer where they'll be plenty of these aircraft flying around the system.
Line Number 560 Delivery Date: 6/6/2017
Line Number 563 Delivery Date: 6/12/2017
Line Number 570 Delivery Date: 7/7/2017
Line Number 587 Delivery Date: 8/16/2017
Line Number 596 Delivery Date: 9/8/2017
Line Number 610 Delivery Date: 10/12/2017
Line Number 626 Delivery Date: 11/22/2017
Line Number 635 Delivery Date: 11/27/2017
Line Number 671 Delivery Date: 2/27/2018
Line Number 682 Delivery Date: 3/26/2018
Line Number 692 Delivery Date: 4/19/2018
The 787 blog, which is very accurate, has posted additional 787-9 delivery dates. These are the scheduled delivery dates for the ten 787-9 scheduled to arrive in 2017. Its actually going to be a while before these aircraft really start to show up en masse as AA is taking its final three 787-8s in February and March. It won't be until next summer where they'll be plenty of these aircraft flying around the system.
Line Number 560 Delivery Date: 6/6/2017
Line Number 563 Delivery Date: 6/12/2017
Line Number 570 Delivery Date: 7/7/2017
Line Number 587 Delivery Date: 8/16/2017
Line Number 596 Delivery Date: 9/8/2017
Line Number 610 Delivery Date: 10/12/2017
Line Number 626 Delivery Date: 11/22/2017
Line Number 635 Delivery Date: 11/27/2017
Line Number 671 Delivery Date: 2/27/2018
Line Number 682 Delivery Date: 3/26/2018
Line Number 692 Delivery Date: 4/19/2018
DFW-MAD
DFW-GRU
DFW-CDG
DFW-ICN
ORD-CDG (From JUL-05, Until AUG-03)
LAX-NRT (From AUG-04, Until OCT-27)
LAX-AKL (From OCT-06)
LAX-GRU (From NOV-05)
LAX-SYD (From NOV-06)
Link to Boeing's global 787 tracker.
Updated 17 April 2017 by econometrics
Boeing 787-9 (789): Discussion of AA 787-9
Jun 28, 2016, 11:12 pm
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The Super Diamond - and the B/E seats for PEY and Y - will be used in the 787-9 and A350.
Jun 28, 2016, 11:16 pm
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Jul 7, 2016, 8:04 am
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More info on the 787-9, new business class seat, and new PE as of 9am CT today:
What's not included: Inaugural and subsequent flights will be DFW-LAX.
I penned (keyed?) a post for AirlineReporter with more details:
http://www.airlinereporter.com/2016/...cabin-details/
- PE is "out of the box" (as someone above put it) on the 789
- First routes are to MAD and GRU starting Nov 4, bookable July 10
- Cabin is 30J/21W/234Y (including 27 in MCE)
What's not included: Inaugural and subsequent flights will be DFW-LAX.
I penned (keyed?) a post for AirlineReporter with more details:
http://www.airlinereporter.com/2016/...cabin-details/
Jul 7, 2016, 8:14 am
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Jul 7, 2016, 9:06 am
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The PE landing page has been updated. https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...um-economy.jsp
PE is essentially treated as MCE for now... EXPs/PLTs can select the seats for free, GLDs for 50% of fee (whatever that fee is) 24 hours before departure. Full PE service will be provided to MAD/GRU.
The change into the full separate cabin won't happen until 2017. The not-so-great bit is:
"Upgrades from Main Cabin to Premium Economy won't be available right away, but we'll add this functionality later. Until then, you’ll be able to upgrade to Business Class from both Main Cabin and Premium Economy."
... which probably hints to most of your worst fears... future upgrades will be Y>W.
PE is essentially treated as MCE for now... EXPs/PLTs can select the seats for free, GLDs for 50% of fee (whatever that fee is) 24 hours before departure. Full PE service will be provided to MAD/GRU.
The change into the full separate cabin won't happen until 2017. The not-so-great bit is:
"Upgrades from Main Cabin to Premium Economy won't be available right away, but we'll add this functionality later. Until then, you’ll be able to upgrade to Business Class from both Main Cabin and Premium Economy."
... which probably hints to most of your worst fears... future upgrades will be Y>W.
Jul 8, 2016, 1:33 am
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The PE landing page has been updated. https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...um-economy.jsp
PE is essentially treated as MCE for now... EXPs/PLTs can select the seats for free, GLDs for 50% of fee (whatever that fee is) 24 hours before departure. Full PE service will be provided to MAD/GRU.
The change into the full separate cabin won't happen until 2017. The not-so-great bit is:
"Upgrades from Main Cabin to Premium Economy won't be available right away, but we'll add this functionality later. Until then, you’ll be able to upgrade to Business Class from both Main Cabin and Premium Economy."
... which probably hints to most of your worst fears... future upgrades will be Y>W.
PE is essentially treated as MCE for now... EXPs/PLTs can select the seats for free, GLDs for 50% of fee (whatever that fee is) 24 hours before departure. Full PE service will be provided to MAD/GRU.
The change into the full separate cabin won't happen until 2017. The not-so-great bit is:
"Upgrades from Main Cabin to Premium Economy won't be available right away, but we'll add this functionality later. Until then, you’ll be able to upgrade to Business Class from both Main Cabin and Premium Economy."
... which probably hints to most of your worst fears... future upgrades will be Y>W.
Jul 8, 2016, 9:15 am
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B787-9 routes announced
"Beginning November 4th, flights from Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) to and from Sao Paulo (GRU) and Madrid (MAD) will feature Premium Economy on our newest Boeing 787 Dreamliner, the 787-9.
Boeing 787-9 flights will be available for booking July 10th."
So much for my DFW-MAD flights in J in December which I thought would be in the reconfig B777.
Also Premium Economy. C availability for DFW-MAD dried up about a month ago, when F stopped being sold. So may be credence to SWUs going from Y to PY and not Y to J
.
Boeing 787-9 flights will be available for booking July 10th."
So much for my DFW-MAD flights in J in December which I thought would be in the reconfig B777.
Also Premium Economy. C availability for DFW-MAD dried up about a month ago, when F stopped being sold. So may be credence to SWUs going from Y to PY and not Y to J
.
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Jul 8, 2016, 12:12 pm
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Booked J award on the 777 with my better half for DFW-MAD on 27NOV, mostly because it was the only way I could figure out how to get mile sAAver to Europe when I was shopping back in January.
I'm definitely pleased that the NGBC era 777 is being swapped out.
Since tickets will be available for purchase on 10JUL, does that mean the aircraft will be swapped in the system this weekend (I assume a Saturday schedule dump)? I want to be able to go in and (re-)select our seats once the maps are updated.
I'm definitely pleased that the NGBC era 777 is being swapped out.
Since tickets will be available for purchase on 10JUL, does that mean the aircraft will be swapped in the system this weekend (I assume a Saturday schedule dump)? I want to be able to go in and (re-)select our seats once the maps are updated.
Jul 8, 2016, 2:18 pm
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Yes, I assume so. I have a DFW-GRU award on the second day of service (bummer to have just missed the inaugural--got an EF alert set on that!), so I'll be looking to do the same.
Jul 8, 2016, 4:39 pm
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Booked J award on the 777 with my better half for DFW-MAD on 27NOV, mostly because it was the only way I could figure out how to get mile sAAver to Europe when I was shopping back in January.
I'm definitely pleased that the NGBC era 777 is being swapped out.
Since tickets will be available for purchase on 10JUL, does that mean the aircraft will be swapped in the system this weekend (I assume a Saturday schedule dump)? I want to be able to go in and (re-)select our seats once the maps are updated.
I'm definitely pleased that the NGBC era 777 is being swapped out.
Since tickets will be available for purchase on 10JUL, does that mean the aircraft will be swapped in the system this weekend (I assume a Saturday schedule dump)? I want to be able to go in and (re-)select our seats once the maps are updated.
Confirming... fairly solid confirmation that the walk-up bar is not on the 789.
Jul 10, 2016, 8:34 am
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Just looking at the seat map, it appears they nearly copied AC's 787-9 configuration, well for J/W, so if that helps, look at the AC forum for comments on the 787-9.
Jul 10, 2016, 8:59 am
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Cheers.
Jul 10, 2016, 9:01 am
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Man, they're packing them in on this plane - a plane to avoid for sure unless you can confirm in W or J. With a seat config of 30J/21W/234Y (total 285) compared to UA's 48J/88Y+/116Y (total 252), fewer upgrades to J likely on AA. It will be interesting to see if SWUs go to Y>W and W>J (as being discussed in other threads).
Jul 10, 2016, 9:05 am
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The difference being that the AC aircraft is the actual seat that AA is using, same aircraft, same seat (with the various customizations, needless to say.)