Apr 5, 2016, 6:48 pm
Last edit by: econometrics
Boeing 787-9 (789): Discussion of 787-9 AA as of 6 Oct 2016
22 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners were ordered in total by American Airlines.
Related threads:
Boeing 787-9 / 789: Best Business (B/E Super Diamond) Seat, Service (master thd)
Boeing 787-9 / 789: Coach, MCE & Premium Economy Seat, Service (master thd)
Retaining the wingspan of the 787-8, the 787-9 is a lengthened and strengthened variant with a 20 feet (6.1 m) longer fuselage and a 54,500 pounds (24,700 kg) higher maximum take-off weight (MTOW), seating 280 passengers in a typical three-class arrangement over a 7,635 nautical miles (8,786 mi; 14,140 km) range. Link to Wikipedia article.
- 30 Business class seats
- 21 Premium Economy seats
- 234 economy seats (207 Main Cabin, 27 Main Cabin Extra)
...we learned that American would be installing the B/E Aerospace Super Diamond seat on their (~half the 772 fleet) 777-200, A350, and 787 aircraft going forward. These are the same types of business class seats as on Air Canada, China Airlines, Qatar Airways, Virgin Australia, etc. (EXCEPT the AA seats will not offer privacy dividers for the Center pair of seats) Link to One Mile at a Time article
AA will receive an additional 10 787-9s in 2017 and will receive the final 8 in 2018. AA has ordered a total of 22 787-9s to complement its 20 787-8s. These will have the General Electric GEnx-1B engines.
787 Blog
The 787 blog, which is very accurate, has posted additional 787-9 delivery dates. These are the scheduled delivery dates for the ten 787-9 scheduled to arrive in 2017. Its actually going to be a while before these aircraft really start to show up en masse as AA is taking its final three 787-8s in February and March. It won't be until next summer where they'll be plenty of these aircraft flying around the system.
Line Number 560 Delivery Date: 6/6/2017
Line Number 563 Delivery Date: 6/12/2017
Line Number 570 Delivery Date: 7/7/2017
Line Number 587 Delivery Date: 8/16/2017
Line Number 596 Delivery Date: 9/8/2017
Line Number 610 Delivery Date: 10/12/2017
Line Number 626 Delivery Date: 11/22/2017
Line Number 635 Delivery Date: 11/27/2017
Line Number 671 Delivery Date: 2/27/2018
Line Number 682 Delivery Date: 3/26/2018
Line Number 692 Delivery Date: 4/19/2018
The 787 blog, which is very accurate, has posted additional 787-9 delivery dates. These are the scheduled delivery dates for the ten 787-9 scheduled to arrive in 2017. Its actually going to be a while before these aircraft really start to show up en masse as AA is taking its final three 787-8s in February and March. It won't be until next summer where they'll be plenty of these aircraft flying around the system.
Line Number 560 Delivery Date: 6/6/2017
Line Number 563 Delivery Date: 6/12/2017
Line Number 570 Delivery Date: 7/7/2017
Line Number 587 Delivery Date: 8/16/2017
Line Number 596 Delivery Date: 9/8/2017
Line Number 610 Delivery Date: 10/12/2017
Line Number 626 Delivery Date: 11/22/2017
Line Number 635 Delivery Date: 11/27/2017
Line Number 671 Delivery Date: 2/27/2018
Line Number 682 Delivery Date: 3/26/2018
Line Number 692 Delivery Date: 4/19/2018
DFW-MAD
DFW-GRU
DFW-CDG
DFW-ICN
ORD-CDG (From JUL-05, Until AUG-03)
LAX-NRT (From AUG-04, Until OCT-27)
LAX-AKL (From OCT-06)
LAX-GRU (From NOV-05)
LAX-SYD (From NOV-06)
Link to Boeing's global 787 tracker.
Updated 17 April 2017 by econometrics
Boeing 787-9 (789): Discussion of AA 787-9
Jun 18, 2016, 6:49 am
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And it seems like yesterday the first Dreamliner was delivered to AA. I don't expect the 787-9s to start seeing dedicated routes until at least November as the second and third 787-9 will arrive in October. Your guess is as good as mine as to where they'll start to show up. I'd bet on these aircraft seeing plenty of LAX-Asia flying by this time next year.
Slightly OT, but on occasion I drive to CHS for flights as they can have some really good fares. I love driving by the Boeing plant and seeing all the brand spanking new 787s lined up in liveries of various airlines you'd never normally see there. Last week there were 787s ready for delivery to Air Canada, Hainan, Thai, and one unpainted.
Views from the air are awesome as well.
Views from the air are awesome as well.
Jun 18, 2016, 8:33 am
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Since they are opening/have opened a 787 base at LAX, its pretty safe to assume a great deal of LAX-Pacific flying will be operated on the 787-9. I don't believe for a second that the 787-8s were intended for primarily Trans-Pacific operations but rather as a stop gap before the 787-9/A350-900 arrived in large numbers. I should point out that AA's rapidly growing operations in the Pacific have seen pretty strong load factors, in large part due to utilising the Dreamliner on many of the newer routes like DFW-PEK/PVG.
Jun 18, 2016, 9:56 am
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Sadly, no. I looked into this as soon as I started making the drives to CHS, as I would LOVE to do a tour, and my son would enjoy it as well.
As per Boeing's website, only the Everett and St. Louis facilities offer tours.
As per Boeing's website, only the Everett and St. Louis facilities offer tours.
Jun 22, 2016, 10:02 pm
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This was posted to Twitter today:
Airline Reporter @AirlineReporter
First @AmericanAir 787-9 will be based at @DFWAirport. Domestic proving/training flights at first, then to Sao Paulo and Madrid.
The Madrid route from early Nov to early May from DFW had all the first class availability on the currently scheduled 777 removed from purchasing inventory, so hoping to be on the 787-900 for my Jan trip.
Airline Reporter @AirlineReporter
First @AmericanAir 787-9 will be based at @DFWAirport. Domestic proving/training flights at first, then to Sao Paulo and Madrid.
The Madrid route from early Nov to early May from DFW had all the first class availability on the currently scheduled 777 removed from purchasing inventory, so hoping to be on the 787-900 for my Jan trip.
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Jun 23, 2016, 7:21 am
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This was posted to Twitter today:
Airline Reporter @AirlineReporter
First @AmericanAir 787-9 will be based at @DFWAirport. Domestic proving/training flights at first, then to Sao Paulo and Madrid.
The Madrid route from early Nov to early May from DFW had all the first class availability on the currently scheduled 777 removed from purchasing inventory, so hoping to be on the 787-900 for my Jan trip.
Airline Reporter @AirlineReporter
First @AmericanAir 787-9 will be based at @DFWAirport. Domestic proving/training flights at first, then to Sao Paulo and Madrid.
The Madrid route from early Nov to early May from DFW had all the first class availability on the currently scheduled 777 removed from purchasing inventory, so hoping to be on the 787-900 for my Jan trip.
Jun 23, 2016, 8:23 am
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Any idea if AA will use the same cramped seats in Y/MCE on the 789 as in the 788?
I know BA had received so many complaints about their 788 that they changed the seats in their 789. Hopefully AA does the same.
I know BA had received so many complaints about their 788 that they changed the seats in their 789. Hopefully AA does the same.
Jun 23, 2016, 10:13 am
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This was posted to Twitter today:
Airline Reporter @AirlineReporter
First @AmericanAir 787-9 will be based at @DFWAirport. Domestic proving/training flights at first, then to Sao Paulo and Madrid.
The Madrid route from early Nov to early May from DFW had all the first class availability on the currently scheduled 777 removed from purchasing inventory, so hoping to be on the 787-900 for my Jan trip.
Airline Reporter @AirlineReporter
First @AmericanAir 787-9 will be based at @DFWAirport. Domestic proving/training flights at first, then to Sao Paulo and Madrid.
The Madrid route from early Nov to early May from DFW had all the first class availability on the currently scheduled 777 removed from purchasing inventory, so hoping to be on the 787-900 for my Jan trip.
Jun 23, 2016, 10:21 am
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Frankly the 77W seats in J and Y are both superior than the 787. I'd be a bit disappointed if they swapped for my flight.
Jun 23, 2016, 10:38 am
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That said, I agree that the custom Zodiac seats on the 788 and 77D are inferior to either of the two products above. So, my preference for seats would be: 789/350 > (maybe) 77W >>> 788/77D.
Jun 23, 2016, 10:49 am
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Looks like DFW-LHR will receive GRU's 77W? Looks like all DFW-LHR services for W2016/17 will be operated by 77W (up to 3 daily on certain days).
If the B/E Super Diamond 789/350 J seats are similar to QR's 787/350/380, I very much prefer the Cirrus 77W. The B/E SD seat's TV is at a fixed position and can't be pushed back making the legroom smaller than the unobstructed Cirrus 77W.
If the B/E Super Diamond 789/350 J seats are similar to QR's 787/350/380, I very much prefer the Cirrus 77W. The B/E SD seat's TV is at a fixed position and can't be pushed back making the legroom smaller than the unobstructed Cirrus 77W.
Jun 23, 2016, 10:53 am
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On the other hand, the B/E super diamond does not require the TV to be stowed for takeoff and landing, so you can enjoy the IFE gate to gate.
Jun 23, 2016, 10:59 am
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Jun 25, 2016, 9:40 am
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It appears DFW-GRU/MAD will switch over to the 787-9 on November 4, based on first being zeroed out on both flights starting this date. AA is scheduled to have three 787-9s at this time.
Jun 28, 2016, 10:42 pm
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Hopefully they improve the J seat from the 788 and run the 789 for LAX-AKL.
I might be doing that route somewhat regularly. Was really impressed by J seat in 77W to SYD. Being 6'5" I'm not too excited about worse/smaller J seat in 788.
I might be doing that route somewhat regularly. Was really impressed by J seat in 77W to SYD. Being 6'5" I'm not too excited about worse/smaller J seat in 788.