fly747first

Some of timing for Dec is schedule looks odd, like two 77W on some days and one departing at 12:10 am!

cmd320

The double 77W service starts next week actually. There is a red-eye flight just after midnight and a 9:45am flight in the LAX-MIA direction and a 3:30p and 7:22p in the MIA-LAX direction.

fly747first

Right, and I have a hard time believing there will be such strong demand to fill a 77W at midnight with another 77W flight within nine hours, but hey if AA wants to make this a non-rev party, they can. lol

econ

It would be interesting if there was a similar pattern with previous months schedule changes (e.g. did 77W mid-afternoon departure not show up on November schedule until final schedule was set the month before?)

In any case, I guess I'll wait to book until the December schedule is finalized (this weekend perhaps?).

If I knew the 9 am 772 departure showing on the December schedule was going to hold, I'd consider just booking that one, but then I'd risk having that get switched to a narrowbody and the prospect of a standard recliner seat for >5.5 hr leaving at a less than ideal time of day does not sound appealing.

ISTFlyer

You are right, the December domestic schedule is not finalized and more updates would come either this Saturday night or the following Saturday.

By the way, for AA tickets, an aircraft change is a reasonable excuse to change or cancel your flights without any penalty. So, if you book the 772 flight and got switched to an A32B, you would be able to switch yourself for free to the 77W service ( if they have one ) in Flagship Business for no extra cost. The same applies if you have a schedule change for more than 30 minutes. Worst case scenario, you could get a voucher and pay the fare difference after the schedule change.

Note: Free changes without any fare difference collected are only valid for options between -24/+24 hours from your original affected departure time.

econ

While I'm guessing that I might find a sympathetic agent to accommodate a change in that case, I thought the actual policy related to equipment changes only applied to international itineraries?

Also unfortunately, AA isn't marketing their 772 flights on this route as Flagship Business, so even if I book that flight I wouldn't have that to leverage either.

fly747first

That's actually incorrect. All nonstops JFK LAX/SFO are being sold as Flagship whether operated by 321T (3class) or 772 (2class); same for MIA LAX when it is operated by 77W (3class).

cmd320

I would imagine the schedule will be updated soon and will mostly reflect the November schedule but it's anyone's guess at this point.

econ

I was referring to MIA-LAX on 772, which is not being marketed as Flagship (at least it's not indicated as such when searching for flights on AA.com).

ISTFlyer

I could confirm that during IRROPS, you could switch your flight from a Domestic First service to Flagship Business.

So regardless of what aircraft you’ve booked 772, 787, 32B, you could always change your flight to a 77W during a cancellation, schedule change over 30 minutes, etc... without any extra charge.

fly747first

Correct, but it is sold as Flagship when operated by 77W but I thought you were referring as the 772 which is operating JFK LAX in November which is being sold as Flagship Business, but there is no First

ISTFlyer

Just to add, if the schedule change happens this Saturday night, I would be reporting all the transcontinental changes, including an analysis of the LAX-MIA route in the thread below.

Reduction/Schedule Changes in Premium Transcontinental Flights Starting Nov 2020

SEA777GUY

Booking a trip for mid January, I found the 777W to be pulled from the rotation. A321, 787, and one flight on 777-2, is what is remaining. I assume that even if paid J, that means no lounge access as well.

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ISTFlyer

Updates for flights after 5 January 2020 haven't been made yet. Probably, they would re-add the 77W on the next schedule update, which would potentially be on the last week of November or in the first week of December.

By the way, in December, I'll be flying on one of the AA 1782 flights ( LAX to MIA departing 00:10/12:10 am ) in Flagship Business, I'll share my experiences somewhere here in FlyerTalk.

fly747first

Please do. Would be interesting to hear how AA is treating this red eye flight.