Jun 8, 2015, 10:27 am
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AA Flagship First Dining includes JFK, DFW, LAX, and MIA. The LAX facility is currently closed
This thread is for discussion of the new Flagship First Dining spaces within Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge complexes
Link to Flagship First Dining Terms and Conditions page on aa.com
Access
A customer with a same-day ticket on American or a oneworld® airline in the first class cabin on a qualifying international or transcontinental flight automatically has access to Flagship® First Dining, located within certain select Flagship® Lounges.
Qualifying transcontinental flights
Three-class non-stop flights between: New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
LAX and Miami (MIA) If operating with three classes sold
LAX and BOS if operating with three classes sold
Guest access
Flagship® First – International: 1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)
Flagship® First – Transcontinental: No guests
Editor's note: There is no access stated or implied on arrival from qualifying flights, but in cases of AA qualifying Flagship First it is granted. There is no access stated or implied based on oneworld or AAdvantage status, including Concierge Key, though the latter may access with a pass. These access rules are quite different from the new Flagship® Lounge; Flagship First Dining is not a oneworld lounge and is exempt from oneworld lounge access rules, much like the LHR Concorde Room.
Concierge Key and Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds not flying in three class Flagship First as defined above do not have Flagship First Dining. (Concierge Key may use passes.)
Locations
Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW) – Terminal D Concourse level between gates D21 and D22; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 12:00 to 20:30
New York (JFK) – Terminal 8 On the mezzanine level after the Concourse B security checkpoint; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 04:30 to 00:15
Los Angeles (LAX) – Terminal 4 Concourse level across from gate 40.
Currently closed
Miami (MIA) – Concourse D Near gate D30.
Open daily 13:00 to 22:30
Link to current thread on announced changes including new Flagship Lounges for MCO, MIA; new Flagship Lounges for MIA, PHL; Flagship Dining for DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA; renovation of FL, AC.
Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The "A" Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge within; these were closed after 11 September 2001. When the decision to make terminal D the new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges in "D". That has been rectified with the opening of DFW “D” Admirals Club, Flagship Lounge and Flagship First Dining. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers in "D".
This thread is for discussion of the new Flagship First Dining spaces within Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge complexes
Link to Flagship First Dining Terms and Conditions page on aa.com
Access
A customer with a same-day ticket on American or a oneworld® airline in the first class cabin on a qualifying international or transcontinental flight automatically has access to Flagship® First Dining, located within certain select Flagship® Lounges.
Qualifying transcontinental flights
Three-class non-stop flights between: New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
LAX and Miami (MIA) If operating with three classes sold
LAX and BOS if operating with three classes sold
Guest access
Flagship® First – International: 1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)
Flagship® First – Transcontinental: No guests
Editor's note: There is no access stated or implied on arrival from qualifying flights, but in cases of AA qualifying Flagship First it is granted. There is no access stated or implied based on oneworld or AAdvantage status, including Concierge Key, though the latter may access with a pass. These access rules are quite different from the new Flagship® Lounge; Flagship First Dining is not a oneworld lounge and is exempt from oneworld lounge access rules, much like the LHR Concorde Room.
Concierge Key and Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds not flying in three class Flagship First as defined above do not have Flagship First Dining. (Concierge Key may use passes.)
Locations
Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW) – Terminal D Concourse level between gates D21 and D22; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 12:00 to 20:30
New York (JFK) – Terminal 8 On the mezzanine level after the Concourse B security checkpoint; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 04:30 to 00:15
Los Angeles (LAX) – Terminal 4 Concourse level across from gate 40.
Currently closed
Miami (MIA) – Concourse D Near gate D30.
Open daily 13:00 to 22:30
Link to current thread on announced changes including new Flagship Lounges for MCO, MIA; new Flagship Lounges for MIA, PHL; Flagship Dining for DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA; renovation of FL, AC.
Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The "A" Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge within; these were closed after 11 September 2001. When the decision to make terminal D the new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges in "D". That has been rectified with the opening of DFW “D” Admirals Club, Flagship Lounge and Flagship First Dining. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers in "D".
Guide to AA Flagship First Dining Qualifications, Access & Related
Feb 14, 2024, 4:59 pm
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LAX-JFK F(overnight)-MIA F — FFD granted at MIA
Did this exact itinerary a month ago and only got a FL card when I checked in at MIA using JFK-LAX BP.
This time, I was instantly told I had FFD access although not without a lot of follow-up questions and a discussion behind the scenes between the desk agent and an out-of-sight supervisor. But all’s well that ends well!
This time, I was instantly told I had FFD access although not without a lot of follow-up questions and a discussion behind the scenes between the desk agent and an out-of-sight supervisor. But all’s well that ends well!
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Feb 14, 2024, 10:54 pm
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Did this exact itinerary a month ago and only got a FL card when I checked in at MIA using JFK-LAX BP.
This time, I was instantly told I had FFD access although not without a lot of follow-up questions and a discussion behind the scenes between the desk agent and an out-of-sight supervisor. But all’s well that ends well!
This time, I was instantly told I had FFD access although not without a lot of follow-up questions and a discussion behind the scenes between the desk agent and an out-of-sight supervisor. But all’s well that ends well!
i have said it before - why would AA not create laminated cards for access with examples? Redeyes are so common this should not be an issue.
A simple card could over 99% of the scenarios.
Feb 14, 2024, 11:40 pm
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Years and years later... we - the flyers - are still educating AA customer facing agents on access rules. (It is not a MIA issue... LAX, ORD, JFK etc... all have had issues over the years.)
i have said it before - why would AA not create laminated cards for access with examples? Redeyes are so common this should not be an issue.
A simple card could over 99% of the scenarios.
i have said it before - why would AA not create laminated cards for access with examples? Redeyes are so common this should not be an issue.
A simple card could over 99% of the scenarios.
The time it would take to make laminated cards and train people to use them would be more than it would take to have a junior software developer code these permutations into the system.
Feb 15, 2024, 5:51 am
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Train them? Simply read the card.
The fact that they don't get someone coming off a JFK-LAX redeye has access is shocking.
Feb 17, 2024, 6:56 am
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At the risk of being overly nitpicky and pedantic AA doesn't have a Flagship First Lounge at MIA. They have a Flagship Lounge, and they have a Flagship First Dining section within the Flagship Lounge. Assuming you're talking about Flagship First Dining then have you checked the dedicated thread [this thread ]to see if any recent menus have been posted?
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Feb 18, 2024, 9:36 am
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At the risk of being overly nitpicky and pedantic AA doesn't have a Flagship First Lounge at MIA. They have a Flagship Lounge, and they have a Flagship First Dining section within the Flagship Lounge. Assuming you're talking about Flagship First Dining then have you checked the dedicated thread [this thread ]to see if any recent menus have been posted?
Apologies, yes, its FFD in the Flagship Lounge. dont see any menus so if someone does have a MIA menu I would be most obliged.
Feb 29, 2024, 2:33 pm
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But I found this term no ?
- A customer with a same-day ticket on American or a oneworld® airline in the first class cabin or on a Flagship®Business Plus fare on a qualifying international or transcontinental flight automatically has access to Flagship®First Dining, located within certain select Flagship® Lounges.
Feb 29, 2024, 5:33 pm
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But I found this term no ?
- A customer with a same-day ticket on American or a oneworld® airline in the first class cabin or on a Flagship®Business Plus fare on a qualifying international or transcontinental flight automatically has access to Flagship®First Dining, located within certain select Flagship® Lounges.
Mar 4, 2024, 10:33 am
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Mar 20, 2024, 9:21 pm
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Last weekend however, I went to the FL in LAX and was far from impressed. I had one small serving of sushi rolls then they ran out and never replenished. There was a good looking beef option on printed menu for the action station but when I asked they said it wouldn't be open today and hadn't been open for a long time. Based on the breakfast buffet while I was over there, I'd imagine the lunch buffet at the OW J lounge in TBIT would have been more to my liking. Other than drinking Balvenie and watching planes, there just wasn't much to the FL that I couldn't get at a Centurion Lounge without a flagship flight.
On the way back at JFK, I visited both the SoHo and the Chelsea, and I have to say I liked the SoHo food options better - the Asian pork belly and Fries was terriffic. I did have some great scotches at the Chelsea, but hey, if I can get free access to the SoHo as an EXP on any Intl flight out of JFK, its almost worth the routing thru there as opposed to the much more limited FL options in LAX or ORD etc.