Jun 8, 15, 11:27 am
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AA Flagship First Dining includes JFK, DFW, LAX, and MIA. The LAX facility is currently closed
This thread is for discussion of the new Flagship First Dining spaces within Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge complexes
Link to Flagship First Dining Terms and Conditions page on aa.com
Access
A customer with a same-day ticket on American or a oneworld airline in the first class cabin on a qualifying international or transcontinental flight automatically has access to Flagship First Dining, located within certain select Flagship Lounges.
Qualifying transcontinental flights
Three-class non-stop flights between: New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
LAX and Miami (MIA) If operating with three classes sold
LAX and BOS if operating with three classes sold
Guest access
Flagship First International: 1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)
Flagship First Transcontinental: No guests
Editor's note: There is no access stated or implied on arrival from qualifying flights, but in cases of AA qualifying Flagship First it is granted. There is no access stated or implied based on oneworld or AAdvantage status, including Concierge Key, though the latter may access with a pass. These access rules are quite different from the new Flagship Lounge; Flagship First Dining is not a oneworld lounge and is exempt from oneworld lounge access rules, much like the LHR Concorde Room.
Concierge Key and Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds not flying in three class Flagship First as defined above do not have Flagship First Dining. (Concierge Key may use passes.)
Locations
Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW) Terminal D Concourse level between gates D21 and D22; inside the Flagship Lounge.
Open daily 12:00 to 20:30
New York (JFK) Terminal 8 On the mezzanine level after the Concourse B security checkpoint; inside the Flagship Lounge.
Open daily 04:30 to 00:15
Los Angeles (LAX) Terminal 4 Concourse level across from gate 40.
Currently closed
Miami (MIA) Concourse D Near gate D30.
Open daily 13:00 to 22:30
Link to current thread on announced changes including new Flagship Lounges for MCO, MIA; new Flagship Lounges for MIA, PHL; Flagship Dining for DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA; renovation of FL, AC.
Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The "A" Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge within; these were closed after 11 September 2001. When the decision to make terminal D the new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges in "D". That has been rectified with the opening of DFW D Admirals Club, Flagship Lounge and Flagship First Dining. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers in "D".
This thread is for discussion of the new Flagship First Dining spaces within Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge complexes
Link to Flagship First Dining Terms and Conditions page on aa.com
Access
A customer with a same-day ticket on American or a oneworld airline in the first class cabin on a qualifying international or transcontinental flight automatically has access to Flagship First Dining, located within certain select Flagship Lounges.
Qualifying transcontinental flights
Three-class non-stop flights between: New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
LAX and Miami (MIA) If operating with three classes sold
LAX and BOS if operating with three classes sold
Guest access
Flagship First International: 1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)
Flagship First Transcontinental: No guests
Editor's note: There is no access stated or implied on arrival from qualifying flights, but in cases of AA qualifying Flagship First it is granted. There is no access stated or implied based on oneworld or AAdvantage status, including Concierge Key, though the latter may access with a pass. These access rules are quite different from the new Flagship Lounge; Flagship First Dining is not a oneworld lounge and is exempt from oneworld lounge access rules, much like the LHR Concorde Room.
Concierge Key and Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds not flying in three class Flagship First as defined above do not have Flagship First Dining. (Concierge Key may use passes.)
Locations
Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW) Terminal D Concourse level between gates D21 and D22; inside the Flagship Lounge.
Open daily 12:00 to 20:30
New York (JFK) Terminal 8 On the mezzanine level after the Concourse B security checkpoint; inside the Flagship Lounge.
Open daily 04:30 to 00:15
Los Angeles (LAX) Terminal 4 Concourse level across from gate 40.
Currently closed
Miami (MIA) Concourse D Near gate D30.
Open daily 13:00 to 22:30
Link to current thread on announced changes including new Flagship Lounges for MCO, MIA; new Flagship Lounges for MIA, PHL; Flagship Dining for DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA; renovation of FL, AC.
Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The "A" Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge within; these were closed after 11 September 2001. When the decision to make terminal D the new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges in "D". That has been rectified with the opening of DFW D Admirals Club, Flagship Lounge and Flagship First Dining. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers in "D".
Guide to AA Flagship First Dining Qualifications, Access & Related
Oct 28, 15, 7:01 pm
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Guide to AA Flagship First Dining Qualifications, Access & Related
I visited the dining room earlier today... OK - it is not TK IST Lounge or LH F-class Terminal, but definitely a big step is a right direction... Food was fairly good...
Yes, yes - I am am an ex-US CP, so I am easily spoiled
Yes, yes - I am am an ex-US CP, so I am easily spoiled
Oct 28, 15, 7:12 pm
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Do you happen to remember what food they had on offer?
And did they have self-serve booze available (of course, brewdog has to ask)?
Oct 28, 15, 7:17 pm
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I _belive_ it was indicated today that booze will be from the regular AC bar (or at least most of it) as opposed to better/self-serve booze in the room. Hopefully I got that wrong. Can't imagine -not- having out some nice sparkling or the like.
Oct 28, 15, 10:02 pm
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Before I left, I went to the counter to double confirm that it's just like flagship lounge rules. if you r EXP travel on the same day international flight, u can access the flagship dining. I was not allowed because it was just testing and not open yet.
Oct 28, 15, 10:10 pm
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There will be place settings at the tables and staff will clear tables and offer drinks. The buffet is spread across two walls, and the back wall features wine, champagne, beer, and other beverages. Liquor is available from the Admirals Club bar. (As now, international premium cabin customers and oneworld elites receive drink chits when entering the lounge. A server can get drinks for customers from the Admirals Club bar and bring them back to Flagship Dining, passengers will need to provide the server with a drink chit.)
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....oom-in-dallas/
Oct 28, 15, 10:15 pm
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According to Gary from View From The Wing:
There will be place settings at the tables and staff will clear tables and offer drinks. The buffet is spread across two walls, and the back wall features wine, champagne, beer, and other beverages. Liquor is available from the Admirals Club bar. (As now, international premium cabin customers and oneworld elites receive drink chits when entering the lounge. A server can get drinks for customers from the Admirals Club bar and bring them back to Flagship Dining, passengers will need to provide the server with a drink chit.)
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....oom-in-dallas/
There will be place settings at the tables and staff will clear tables and offer drinks. The buffet is spread across two walls, and the back wall features wine, champagne, beer, and other beverages. Liquor is available from the Admirals Club bar. (As now, international premium cabin customers and oneworld elites receive drink chits when entering the lounge. A server can get drinks for customers from the Admirals Club bar and bring them back to Flagship Dining, passengers will need to provide the server with a drink chit.)
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....oom-in-dallas/
Oct 29, 15, 5:38 am
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According to Gary from View From The Wing:
...A server can get drinks for customers from the Admirals Club bar and bring them back to Flagship Dining, passengers will need to provide the server with a drink chit.
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....oom-in-dallas/
...A server can get drinks for customers from the Admirals Club bar and bring them back to Flagship Dining, passengers will need to provide the server with a drink chit.
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....oom-in-dallas/
Oct 29, 15, 6:46 am
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Lately I've only been given one chit per entry to the ACs (except in MIA) for all types of travel - int'l/domestic F, int'l J, and int'l/domestic Y as an EXP, and not a single agent has seemed happy to give me another when I ask. This one-chit system seems rather stingy in the face of the new Flagship Dining plan. Maybe they'll push the wine, champagne (er...Prosecco), and "other beverages" in the room over using the main bar?
Oct 29, 15, 7:04 am
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Maybe, just maybe, this has something to do with the new Amex lounge in DFW Terminal D which offers decent enough food (if a very strange atmosphere... I eat there but do not like to spend time). After all it all boils down to making more consumers switch from the Amex Platinum which used to give AA lounge access to the AA "black" Mastercard. As long as some people retain both cards, MC loses on charge commissions.
In which case, by the way, the move is ill thought as the real strength of Amex Platinum / Centurion cards is in their superior customer service online and on the phone. Have you ever tried to dispute a charge with MC? Huge red tape which is totally spared on Amex.
In which case, by the way, the move is ill thought as the real strength of Amex Platinum / Centurion cards is in their superior customer service online and on the phone. Have you ever tried to dispute a charge with MC? Huge red tape which is totally spared on Amex.
Oct 29, 15, 7:07 am
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Come to think of it, it wouldn't surprise me if the FD attendants have a few chits on them...
Oct 29, 15, 10:17 am
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More to the point, it used to be standard to receive two chits, now we're down to one; with Flagship Dining opening, one seems stingy in the face of the intent of the service. The point of my post was to question whether the initial chit offering may become more generous for those who meet access requirements. Not everyone feels comfortable asking for more chits - many may not even know that it's an option.
Come to think of it, it wouldn't surprise me if the FD attendants have a few chits on them...
Come to think of it, it wouldn't surprise me if the FD attendants have a few chits on them...
Oct 29, 15, 11:15 am
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Oct 29, 15, 11:16 am
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Two of us are currently in the DFW new Flagship lounge. Nice. Was the old smoking room. No physical changes other than new pictures.
There are letting in a limited number of people so you need to ask. 5 total in here now.
Nice food and drink but no hot food other than soup. Was here for Breakfast as well - again no hot items but large selection of cold.
For Lunch - Salad, soup, cheeses, and open face sandwiches plus a few other items. They serve you wine, soft drinks etc. No liquor.
Nice setup - but then no hot items (except soup). The open face sandwiches are nice. The set up is 10 tables for 2, tables are about 2 feet in diameter. Gray in color, and gray carpet.
Today is first today of the preview opening - I was one of the first in. Yesterday was AA management. Of course officially opens Tues. Back through on Monday and will check again.
I think the better you are dressed gives you an invite in, but you can ask. I automatically got 2 drink coupons - which I normally use for bottled water, but they have water here.
I was in dress shirt and got invite, but friend was in T-Shirt and had to ask to get stamp. You get a card and they stamp your boarding pass.
There are letting in a limited number of people so you need to ask. 5 total in here now.
Nice food and drink but no hot food other than soup. Was here for Breakfast as well - again no hot items but large selection of cold.
For Lunch - Salad, soup, cheeses, and open face sandwiches plus a few other items. They serve you wine, soft drinks etc. No liquor.
Nice setup - but then no hot items (except soup). The open face sandwiches are nice. The set up is 10 tables for 2, tables are about 2 feet in diameter. Gray in color, and gray carpet.
Today is first today of the preview opening - I was one of the first in. Yesterday was AA management. Of course officially opens Tues. Back through on Monday and will check again.
I think the better you are dressed gives you an invite in, but you can ask. I automatically got 2 drink coupons - which I normally use for bottled water, but they have water here.
I was in dress shirt and got invite, but friend was in T-Shirt and had to ask to get stamp. You get a card and they stamp your boarding pass.
Oct 29, 15, 11:23 am
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