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Guide to AA Flagship First Dining Qualifications, Access & Related

Guide to AA Flagship First Dining Qualifications, Access & Related

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AA Flagship First Dining includes DFW, LAX, MIA; LHR pending.

This thread is for discussion of the new Flagship First Dining spaces within Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge complexes

Link to Flagship First Dining page on aa.com

Access

If you’re flying on American Airlines in Flagship® First on qualifying international or transcontinental flights you automatically have access.*

Qualifying international flights:

Three class with Flagship First flights between the U.S. and:
Asia
Australia
Europe
South America
Qualifying transcontinental flights**

Three-class non-stop flights between:
New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
LAX and Miami (MIA) If operating
LAX and BOS if operating
*Departing flight must be marketed and operated by American on the same day (or if connecting before 6 a.m. the following day). Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access.
**Access to Flagship First Dining is granted at both the departure airport and the arrival airport, subject to availability (e.g. SFO has no Flagship First Dining) and operating hours (confirmed by multiple FTers from experience, and in conversation with Flagship Lounge agents and Admirals Club Customer Service).
***Cathay Pacific First departing (only) passengers may use the JFK FFD.
**** It may be BA, QR, QF First pax have DFW FFD Access, but this remains unconfirmed
Must be on revenue or award ticket, not employee pass or non-rev

Guest access

Flagship® First – International
1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)
Flagship® First – Transcontinental
No guests
Editor's note: There is no access stated or implied on arrival from qualifying flights, but in cases of AA qualifying Flagship First it is granted. There is no access stated or implied based on oneworld or AAdvantage status, including Concierge Key, though the latter may access with a pass. These access rules are quite different from the new Flagship® Lounge; FFD is not a oneworld lounge and is exempt from oneworld lounge access rules, much like the LHR Concorde Room.

Concierge Key and Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds not flying in three class Flagship First as defined above do not have Flagship First Dining.
(Concierge Key may use passes.)

Locations

Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW) – Terminal D Concourse level between gates D21 and D22; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 8 a.m. - 10 p.m.

New York (JFK) – Terminal 8 On the mezzanine level after the Concourse B security checkpoint; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 4 a.m. - 10 p.m.

Los Angeles (LAX) – Terminal 4 Concourse level across from gate 40.
Open daily 4:45 a.m. - 12:45 a.m.

Miami (MIA) – Concourse D Near gate D30.
Open daily 1 p.m. - 10:30 p.m.

Coming “soon” London Heathrow (LHR)

Link to current thread on announced changes including new Flagship Lounges for MCO, MIA; new Flagship Lounges for MIA, PHL; Flagship Dining for DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA; renovation of FL, AC.

Background[/b]: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The "A" Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge within; these were closed after 11 September 2001. When the decision to make terminal D the new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges in "D". There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers in "D".

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Old Oct 28, 15, 6:01 pm
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Arrow Guide to AA Flagship First Dining Qualifications, Access & Related

I visited the dining room earlier today... OK - it is not TK IST Lounge or LH F-class Terminal, but definitely a big step is a right direction... Food was fairly good...

Yes, yes - I am am an ex-US CP, so I am easily spoiled
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Old Oct 28, 15, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by TPJ View Post
I visited the dining room earlier today... OK - it is not TK IST Lounge or LH F-class Terminal, but definitely a big step is a right direction... Food was fairly good...

Yes, yes - I am am an ex-US CP, so I am easily spoiled
Good to hear that it was a step in the right direction!

Do you happen to remember what food they had on offer?

And did they have self-serve booze available (of course, brewdog has to ask)?
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And did they have self-serve booze available (of course, brewdog has to ask)?
I _belive_ it was indicated today that booze will be from the regular AC bar (or at least most of it) as opposed to better/self-serve booze in the room. Hopefully I got that wrong. Can't imagine -not- having out some nice sparkling or the like.
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Before I left, I went to the counter to double confirm that it's just like flagship lounge rules. if you r EXP travel on the same day international flight, u can access the flagship dining. I was not allowed because it was just testing and not open yet.
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Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
I _belive_ it was indicated today that booze will be from the regular AC bar (or at least most of it) as opposed to better/self-serve booze in the room. Hopefully I got that wrong. Can't imagine -not- having out some nice sparkling or the like.
According to Gary from View From The Wing:

There will be place settings at the tables and staff will clear tables and offer drinks. The buffet is spread across two walls, and the back wall features wine, champagne, beer, and other beverages. Liquor is available from the Admirals Club bar. (As now, international premium cabin customers and oneworld elites receive drink chits when entering the lounge. A server can get drinks for customers from the Admirals Club bar and bring them back to Flagship Dining, passengers will need to provide the server with a drink chit.)

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....oom-in-dallas/
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Old Oct 28, 15, 9:15 pm
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Before I left, I went to the counter to double confirm that it's just like flagship lounge rules. if you r EXP travel on the same day international flight, u can access the flagship dining. I was not allowed because it was just testing and not open yet.
Yes, as I stated upthread.


Originally Posted by AAEmpireState View Post
According to Gary from View From The Wing:

There will be place settings at the tables and staff will clear tables and offer drinks. The buffet is spread across two walls, and the back wall features wine, champagne, beer, and other beverages. Liquor is available from the Admirals Club bar. (As now, international premium cabin customers and oneworld elites receive drink chits when entering the lounge. A server can get drinks for customers from the Admirals Club bar and bring them back to Flagship Dining, passengers will need to provide the server with a drink chit.)

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....oom-in-dallas/
Nice!
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Originally Posted by AAEmpireState View Post
According to Gary from View From The Wing:

...A server can get drinks for customers from the Admirals Club bar and bring them back to Flagship Dining, passengers will need to provide the server with a drink chit.

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....oom-in-dallas/
Lately I've only been given one chit per entry to the ACs (except in MIA) for all types of travel - int'l/domestic F, int'l J, and int'l/domestic Y as an EXP, and not a single agent has seemed happy to give me another when I ask. This one-chit system seems rather stingy in the face of the new Flagship Dining plan. Maybe they'll push the wine, champagne (er...Prosecco), and "other beverages" in the room over using the main bar?
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Old Oct 29, 15, 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by zpaul View Post
Lately I've only been given one chit per entry to the ACs (except in MIA) for all types of travel - int'l/domestic F, int'l J, and int'l/domestic Y as an EXP, and not a single agent has seemed happy to give me another when I ask. This one-chit system seems rather stingy in the face of the new Flagship Dining plan. Maybe they'll push the wine, champagne (er...Prosecco), and "other beverages" in the room over using the main bar?
If I'm staying for longer than one drink, I just ask right up front and always get 2 or 3. Don't really care what they think.
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Old Oct 29, 15, 6:04 am
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Maybe, just maybe, this has something to do with the new Amex lounge in DFW Terminal D which offers decent enough food (if a very strange atmosphere... I eat there but do not like to spend time). After all it all boils down to making more consumers switch from the Amex Platinum which used to give AA lounge access to the AA "black" Mastercard. As long as some people retain both cards, MC loses on charge commissions.

In which case, by the way, the move is ill thought as the real strength of Amex Platinum / Centurion cards is in their superior customer service online and on the phone. Have you ever tried to dispute a charge with MC? Huge red tape which is totally spared on Amex.
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Originally Posted by teemuflyer View Post
If I'm staying for longer than one drink, I just ask right up front and always get 2 or 3. Don't really care what they think.
More to the point, it used to be standard to receive two chits, now we're down to one; with Flagship Dining opening, one seems stingy in the face of the intent of the service. The point of my post was to question whether the initial chit offering may become more generous for those who meet access requirements. Not everyone feels comfortable asking for more chits - many may not even know that it's an option.

Come to think of it, it wouldn't surprise me if the FD attendants have a few chits on them...
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Originally Posted by zpaul View Post
More to the point, it used to be standard to receive two chits, now we're down to one; with Flagship Dining opening, one seems stingy in the face of the intent of the service. The point of my post was to question whether the initial chit offering may become more generous for those who meet access requirements. Not everyone feels comfortable asking for more chits - many may not even know that it's an option.

Come to think of it, it wouldn't surprise me if the FD attendants have a few chits on them...
Good points. Especially the last one. Why would someone entitled to the FD experience have to hand over their "chit" to get a drink? They should just be able to order a drink, and have it delivered, if drinks are indeed delivered.
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So is this confirmed that entrance follows FL rules....so EXP has to be on a long haul int'l itinerary?
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981 View Post
So is this confirmed that entrance follows FL rules....so EXP has to be on a long haul int'l itinerary?
Well, international. Mexico City and Central America flights get an EXP flying in Y access, and they're not really long haul...
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Two of us are currently in the DFW new Flagship lounge. Nice. Was the old smoking room. No physical changes other than new pictures.

There are letting in a limited number of people so you need to ask. 5 total in here now.

Nice food and drink but no hot food other than soup. Was here for Breakfast as well - again no hot items but large selection of cold.

For Lunch - Salad, soup, cheeses, and open face sandwiches plus a few other items. They serve you wine, soft drinks etc. No liquor.

Nice setup - but then no hot items (except soup). The open face sandwiches are nice. The set up is 10 tables for 2, tables are about 2 feet in diameter. Gray in color, and gray carpet.

Today is first today of the preview opening - I was one of the first in. Yesterday was AA management. Of course officially opens Tues. Back through on Monday and will check again.

I think the better you are dressed gives you an invite in, but you can ask. I automatically got 2 drink coupons - which I normally use for bottled water, but they have water here.

I was in dress shirt and got invite, but friend was in T-Shirt and had to ask to get stamp. You get a card and they stamp your boarding pass.
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Originally Posted by cova View Post
You get a card and they stamp your boarding pass.
Thanks for the update!

This is downstairs, where you get the card and stamp, with someone at the door to the FD area?
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