Jun 8, 2015, 10:27 am
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AA Flagship First Dining includes JFK, DFW, LAX, and MIA. The LAX facility is currently closed
This thread is for discussion of the new Flagship First Dining spaces within Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge complexes
Link to Flagship First Dining Terms and Conditions page on aa.com
Access
A customer with a same-day ticket on American or a oneworld® airline in the first class cabin on a qualifying international or transcontinental flight automatically has access to Flagship® First Dining, located within certain select Flagship® Lounges.
Qualifying transcontinental flights
Three-class non-stop flights between: New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
LAX and Miami (MIA) If operating with three classes sold
LAX and BOS if operating with three classes sold
Guest access
Flagship® First – International: 1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)
Flagship® First – Transcontinental: No guests
Editor's note: There is no access stated or implied on arrival from qualifying flights, but in cases of AA qualifying Flagship First it is granted. There is no access stated or implied based on oneworld or AAdvantage status, including Concierge Key, though the latter may access with a pass. These access rules are quite different from the new Flagship® Lounge; Flagship First Dining is not a oneworld lounge and is exempt from oneworld lounge access rules, much like the LHR Concorde Room.
Concierge Key and Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds not flying in three class Flagship First as defined above do not have Flagship First Dining. (Concierge Key may use passes.)
Locations
Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW) – Terminal D Concourse level between gates D21 and D22; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 12:00 to 20:30
New York (JFK) – Terminal 8 On the mezzanine level after the Concourse B security checkpoint; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 04:30 to 00:15
Los Angeles (LAX) – Terminal 4 Concourse level across from gate 40.
Currently closed
Miami (MIA) – Concourse D Near gate D30.
Open daily 13:00 to 22:30
Link to current thread on announced changes including new Flagship Lounges for MCO, MIA; new Flagship Lounges for MIA, PHL; Flagship Dining for DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA; renovation of FL, AC.
Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The "A" Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge within; these were closed after 11 September 2001. When the decision to make terminal D the new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges in "D". That has been rectified with the opening of DFW “D” Admirals Club, Flagship Lounge and Flagship First Dining. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers in "D".
This thread is for discussion of the new Flagship First Dining spaces within Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge complexes
Link to Flagship First Dining Terms and Conditions page on aa.com
Access
A customer with a same-day ticket on American or a oneworld® airline in the first class cabin on a qualifying international or transcontinental flight automatically has access to Flagship® First Dining, located within certain select Flagship® Lounges.
Qualifying transcontinental flights
Three-class non-stop flights between: New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
JFK and San Francisco (SFO)
LAX and Miami (MIA) If operating with three classes sold
LAX and BOS if operating with three classes sold
Guest access
Flagship® First – International: 1 guest (children over 2 count as a guest)
Flagship® First – Transcontinental: No guests
Editor's note: There is no access stated or implied on arrival from qualifying flights, but in cases of AA qualifying Flagship First it is granted. There is no access stated or implied based on oneworld or AAdvantage status, including Concierge Key, though the latter may access with a pass. These access rules are quite different from the new Flagship® Lounge; Flagship First Dining is not a oneworld lounge and is exempt from oneworld lounge access rules, much like the LHR Concorde Room.
Concierge Key and Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds not flying in three class Flagship First as defined above do not have Flagship First Dining. (Concierge Key may use passes.)
Locations
Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW) – Terminal D Concourse level between gates D21 and D22; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 12:00 to 20:30
New York (JFK) – Terminal 8 On the mezzanine level after the Concourse B security checkpoint; inside the Flagship® Lounge.
Open daily 04:30 to 00:15
Los Angeles (LAX) – Terminal 4 Concourse level across from gate 40.
Currently closed
Miami (MIA) – Concourse D Near gate D30.
Open daily 13:00 to 22:30
Link to current thread on announced changes including new Flagship Lounges for MCO, MIA; new Flagship Lounges for MIA, PHL; Flagship Dining for DFW, JFK, LAX, MIA; renovation of FL, AC.
Background: The DFW international terminal was previously Terminal A. The "A" Admirals Club offered both an Arrivals Lounge and a Flagship Lounge within; these were closed after 11 September 2001. When the decision to make terminal D the new in terminal, AA chose to build an expanded Admirals Club and omit both Flagship and Arrivals lounges in "D". That has been rectified with the opening of DFW “D” Admirals Club, Flagship Lounge and Flagship First Dining. There is an AMEX Centurion lounge, and there are The Lounge at DFW and several contract lounges serving several airlines' passengers in "D".
Guide to AA Flagship First Dining Qualifications, Access & Related
Nov 15, 2023, 7:13 pm
#77
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 6
Our trip is not until mid Jan. Perhaps there will be a new menu by then? Originally booked through JFK with a night in NY each way and BA F home when fares were cheap but latest fares pretty much match for any city pair J R/T AA/BA. So just decided to switch to late DFW dep for longer flight/better sleep and burn 3 EVIPs J to F on AA so all 6 of us can use FFD. Definitely know what to expect (not much) AA F but hoping FFD at least will be pleasant enough! Booked BA 3 cabin 777 club world suites home through PHL! Will miss out on Concorde room at LHR but been there and done that many times and not much ever changes. Wish us luck……😳
Nov 15, 2023, 8:17 pm
#78
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Posts: 474
Our trip is not until mid Jan. Perhaps there will be a new menu by then? Originally booked through JFK with a night in NY each way and BA F home when fares were cheap but latest fares pretty much match for any city pair J R/T AA/BA. So just decided to switch to late DFW dep for longer flight/better sleep and burn 3 EVIPs J to F on AA so all 6 of us can use FFD. Definitely know what to expect (not much) AA F but hoping FFD at least will be pleasant enough! Booked BA 3 cabin 777 club world suites home through PHL! Will miss out on Concorde room at LHR but been there and done that many times and not much ever changes. Wish us luck……😳
Nov 16, 2023, 4:20 pm
#80
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Seattle, WA
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Posts: 298
At FFD DFW. I was skeptical of the Champagne with the producer being Nicolas Feuillate. It’s quite good though. I find it more interesting than LPGS even, but you have to let it come up to room temp a bit. 2008 being a great year for Champagne probably helps.
I also had forgotten that AA has pretty decent liquor at FFD. I don’t see it mentioned much here. 18yo Highland Park makes me a happy camper. Don Julio 1942 is not bad for tequila (if you don’t mind vanilla), and there’s JW Blue Label if you care for that.
I also had forgotten that AA has pretty decent liquor at FFD. I don’t see it mentioned much here. 18yo Highland Park makes me a happy camper. Don Julio 1942 is not bad for tequila (if you don’t mind vanilla), and there’s JW Blue Label if you care for that.
Nov 17, 2023, 3:59 am
#81
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Posts: 5,140
Nov 17, 2023, 7:25 am
#82
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: GLA... where else?!
Programs: BA VS
Posts: 474
It was my first time in FFD and I was well impressed.
Nov 17, 2023, 8:06 am
#83
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Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, HHonours Diamond, BA AMEX PremPlus
Posts: 5,140
Yes, probably the best meal experience I've had in an airline lounge.
Nov 17, 2023, 8:36 am
#84
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Nov 20, 2023, 3:41 am
#85
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Platinum (LTG), OW Emerald, Accor Platinum; Hyatt Explorist.
Posts: 2,165
Apologies if I've missed this despite reading and searching - but any info on FFD LAX reopening? Surely if AA were going to shut it down permanently they would have said so after being closed so long?
I fly LAX - AKL in AA Flagship Business in JAN' 24, which according to website, theoretically, gets me entry. That said, is all the fuss over FFD worth it at LAX when the Qantas First lounge is a few minute walk away, also with sit down A La Carte dining available?
I fly LAX - AKL in AA Flagship Business in JAN' 24, which according to website, theoretically, gets me entry. That said, is all the fuss over FFD worth it at LAX when the Qantas First lounge is a few minute walk away, also with sit down A La Carte dining available?
Nov 20, 2023, 4:15 am
#86
Join Date: Sep 2006
Programs: Some more than others
Posts: 774
Apologies if I've missed this despite reading and searching - but any info on FFD LAX reopening? Surely if AA were going to shut it down permanently they would have said so after being closed so long?
I fly LAX - AKL in AA Flagship Business in JAN' 24, which according to website, theoretically, gets me entry. That said, is all the fuss over FFD worth it at LAX when the Qantas First lounge is a few minute walk away, also with sit down A La Carte dining available?
I fly LAX - AKL in AA Flagship Business in JAN' 24, which according to website, theoretically, gets me entry. That said, is all the fuss over FFD worth it at LAX when the Qantas First lounge is a few minute walk away, also with sit down A La Carte dining available?
Nov 20, 2023, 5:44 pm
#87
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Platinum (LTG), OW Emerald, Accor Platinum; Hyatt Explorist.
Posts: 2,165
Flying LAX-AKL in Flagship Business does not provide access to Flagship First Dining even if it were open. You would have to be flying Flagship First, which isn't offered on that route. You have access to the regular Flagship Lounge which is open and (if OWE) the QF F lounge.
Flying in Flagship® First or Flagship® Business Plus? (which New Zealand service is)
If you’re flying in Flagship® First or Flagship® Business Plus on select flights you also have access to our elevated, sit-down dining experience; located inside select Flagship® Lounges.Flagship® First Dining
Access
Qualifying First and BusinessExpandGet access if you’re traveling in First or Business on a qualifying same-day international, transcontinental or other domestic flight marketed and operated by American, a oneworld® airline or marketed by JetBlue* and operated by American.**Qualifying international
Flights with seats ticketed as Flagship® between the U.S. and:
- Asia
- Australia
- Europe
- Middle East
- New Zealand
- South America (excluding Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Peru, Suriname and Venezuela)
Last edited by Cedar Jet; Nov 20, 2023 at 5:55 pm
Nov 20, 2023, 5:49 pm
#88
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,693
So what's all this about then?........
Flagship® First Dining
Flying in Flagship® First or Flagship® Business Plus? (which New Zealand service is)
If you’re flying in Flagship® First or Flagship® Business Plus on select flights you also have access to our elevated, sit-down dining experience; located inside select Flagship® Lounges.Flagship® First Dining
Access
Qualifying First and BusinessExpandGet access if you’re traveling in First or Business on a qualifying same-day international, transcontinental or other domestic flight marketed and operated by American, a oneworld® airline or marketed by JetBlue* and operated by American.**Qualifying international
Flights with seats ticketed as Flagship® between the U.S. and:
- Asia
- Australia
- Europe
- Middle East
- New Zealand
- South America (excluding Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Peru, Suriname and Venezuela)
Flagship Business Plus is where you pay an extra $500 on top of your Flagship Business ticket and that gets you access to FFD.
Nov 20, 2023, 6:01 pm
#89
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Platinum (LTG), OW Emerald, Accor Platinum; Hyatt Explorist.
Posts: 2,165
Ah I give up! so damn confusing. Was never presented with opportunity for 'plus' option....or perhaps I missed seeing it. All said, thanks to all for your input. I'll just head to TBIT and eat A La Carte at QF First lounge. Problem solved 
Merry Christmas all.
Merry Christmas all.
Nov 20, 2023, 6:01 pm
#90
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Flagship Business Plus includes FFD, First Checkin and an extra checked bag. On the plane, it's identical.
It's offered on some routes some times, so it isn't a consistent thing either. With LAX FFD closed, it would be an even more spectacular waste of money than it usually is.
Have a great trip!