Dec 5, 2014, 11:27 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: Changed flight numbers from 137 / 138 to AA 125 / 126 Nov 2016
This thread is for the discussion of upgrades (using systemwide upgrades /SWUs or mileage+ copay) for the DFW-HKG route.
General discussion about the new DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG routes can be found here: DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG Starting Summer 2014 [route discussion]
Discussion and questions about flight experiences on the DFW-HKG flights can be found here: 77W DFW-HKG AA 137 / 138 flight experiences, questions
DFW-HKG AA 125 / 126 77W Upgrade Chances & Waitlist Discussion
Aug 11, 2014, 2:25 pm
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I bought at about 10 days out with ~15-20 seats showing open on the seatmap. My upgrades both cleared at the 24 hour mark. I was similarly worried.
Aug 11, 2014, 2:31 pm
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Aug 11, 2014, 2:35 pm
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Aug 11, 2014, 8:15 pm
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I'm on Saturday's HKG-DFW flight. I've been looking at Expert Flyer daily and Y will zero out and the next day a couple seats will open up. Then it will zero out again. Rinse and repeat. I kind of figured they were overselling it. Called last night and agent confirmed it is oversold. I think I'll get to the airport early and try to make a few bucks on a bump!
How do yo know they are oversold by at least 10? Maybe you have some inside info? If so, do you know how many over AA138 is on Aug. 16?
How do yo know they are oversold by at least 10? Maybe you have some inside info? If so, do you know how many over AA138 is on Aug. 16?
Aug 11, 2014, 8:20 pm
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I'm on Saturday's HKG-DFW flight. I've been looking at Expert Flyer daily and Y will zero out and the next day a couple seats will open up. Then it will zero out again. Rinse and repeat. I kind of figured they were overselling it. Called last night and agent confirmed it is oversold. I think I'll get to the airport early and try to make a few bucks on a bump!
How do yo know they are oversold by at least 10? Maybe you have some inside info? If so, do you know how many over AA138 is on Aug. 16?
How do yo know they are oversold by at least 10? Maybe you have some inside info? If so, do you know how many over AA138 is on Aug. 16?
Aug 11, 2014, 8:33 pm
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Aug 11, 2014, 8:56 pm
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Looks like you are too late to use miles. There is F1 and J1 for sale. You need C to do miles and copay and with only J1 there is no chance (right now). Only saving grace is about 8 or 9 open seats so probably better chance of op-up. An op-up will (usually) be based on status. Crap shoot for platinum since there is a good chance there are EXPs waiting for upgrades too that will trump you.
Aug 11, 2014, 9:00 pm
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Looks like you are too late to use miles. There is F1 and J1 for sale. You need C to do miles and copay and with only J1 there is no chance (right now). Only saving grace is about 8 or 9 open seats so probably better chance of op-up. An op-up will (usually) be based on status. Crap shoot for platinum since there is a good chance there are EXPs waiting for upgrades too that will trump you.
... I would imagine they clear the upgrade waitlist (SWUs, miles upgrade requests) before op-upping people.
Aug 11, 2014, 9:41 pm
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Sorry misunderstood. I thought you were talking about doing miles now over the chance to op-up. I don't have enough data points to gauge how this will work for you. Every time I've done the trip I just bought into the cabin I wanted. But they always went out 100% full in F, J and MCE.
Aug 12, 2014, 1:49 am
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Aug 12, 2014, 9:49 am
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After reading this thread a bit, it looks like HKG-DFW from Y-C has a pretty good chance of clearing. I'm looking at a JFK to Asia open jaw in late Nov 2014, thinking JFK-LAX-PVG for the outbound and BKK-HKG-DFW-JFK for the return and hoping to clear SWUs for 2 pax. HKG-DFW is critical to clear because it is overnight, and I'd rather do the 77W out of HKG than the 777 w angled flats out of PVG on the return.
Flights are in late Nov or early Dec (lots of flexibility). Any tips for day of the week, etc for HKG-DFW? I've looked for C space and dont find any at all, so assume this is a buy and get on waitlist scenario. Just really want to make sure I optimize chance of getting into C for the return.
Flights are in late Nov or early Dec (lots of flexibility). Any tips for day of the week, etc for HKG-DFW? I've looked for C space and dont find any at all, so assume this is a buy and get on waitlist scenario. Just really want to make sure I optimize chance of getting into C for the return.
Aug 12, 2014, 10:53 am
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After reading this thread a bit, it looks like HKG-DFW from Y-C has a pretty good chance of clearing. I'm looking at a JFK to Asia open jaw in late Nov 2014, thinking JFK-LAX-PVG for the outbound and BKK-HKG-DFW-JFK for the return and hoping to clear SWUs for 2 pax. HKG-DFW is critical to clear because it is overnight, and I'd rather do the 77W out of HKG than the 777 w angled flats out of PVG on the return.
Flights are in late Nov or early Dec (lots of flexibility). Any tips for day of the week, etc for HKG-DFW? I've looked for C space and dont find any at all, so assume this is a buy and get on waitlist scenario. Just really want to make sure I optimize chance of getting into C for the return.
Flights are in late Nov or early Dec (lots of flexibility). Any tips for day of the week, etc for HKG-DFW? I've looked for C space and dont find any at all, so assume this is a buy and get on waitlist scenario. Just really want to make sure I optimize chance of getting into C for the return.
Aug 12, 2014, 11:11 am
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After reading this thread a bit, it looks like HKG-DFW from Y-C has a pretty good chance of clearing. I'm looking at a JFK to Asia open jaw in late Nov 2014, thinking JFK-LAX-PVG for the outbound and BKK-HKG-DFW-JFK for the return and hoping to clear SWUs for 2 pax. HKG-DFW is critical to clear because it is overnight, and I'd rather do the 77W out of HKG than the 777 w angled flats out of PVG on the return.
Flights are in late Nov or early Dec (lots of flexibility). Any tips for day of the week, etc for HKG-DFW? I've looked for C space and dont find any at all, so assume this is a buy and get on waitlist scenario. Just really want to make sure I optimize chance of getting into C for the return.
Flights are in late Nov or early Dec (lots of flexibility). Any tips for day of the week, etc for HKG-DFW? I've looked for C space and dont find any at all, so assume this is a buy and get on waitlist scenario. Just really want to make sure I optimize chance of getting into C for the return.
Aug 12, 2014, 11:29 am
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Aug 12, 2014, 11:55 am
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