Speculation fun: Will xxx be the next AA focus city / hub? Dropped? (consolidated)
Nov 16, 2014, 4:08 pm
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As for BOS going forward, the 757 can reach every destination in the western half of Europe from there, except Italy. In addition to the O&D traffic, there is plenty of feed coming off of the LGA/DCA/ORD/DFW/LAX/MIA flights. As well as the AS feed. Even more so if SFO-BOS is re-instated.
Nov 16, 2014, 10:27 pm
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The only time US did that was in the early 90's for a year. It was a 762 that ran CLT-BOS-FRA (when US initiated service to FRA). Then it just became CLT-FRA. I don't remember anything else out of BOS on US metal after that.
As for BOS going forward, the 757 can reach every destination in the western half of Europe from there, except Italy. In addition to the O&D traffic, there is plenty of feed coming off of the LGA/DCA/ORD/DFW/LAX/MIA flights. As well as the AS feed. Even more so if SFO-BOS is re-instated.
As for BOS going forward, the 757 can reach every destination in the western half of Europe from there, except Italy. In addition to the O&D traffic, there is plenty of feed coming off of the LGA/DCA/ORD/DFW/LAX/MIA flights. As well as the AS feed. Even more so if SFO-BOS is re-instated.
Nov 17, 2014, 3:25 am
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AA is building up its LAX network and Tampa is a logical addition. AA is the largest airline between California and Florida and the largest trans-con carrier out of LAX, and adding Tampa to that network just makes sense regardless of what Delta does or doesn't do.
Nov 17, 2014, 6:45 am
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Nov 17, 2014, 10:48 am
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), but BOS-MAN definitely existed. I took it a couple of times.BOS-DUB definitely existed as an AA codeshare on EI metal. Not sure if it ever ran on AA metal.
Nov 17, 2014, 8:42 pm
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Speculation: RDU... [future plans and expansion?]
RDU in the nineties used to an American hub but in the late nineties they shut it down. One of the terminals is basically split between AA/Delta/US Airways. They have consolidated the US Airways club into the AA club. What I am wondering since Charlotte is so close and is a mega US Airways hub would AA invest in having more direct flights from RDU. Currently there is 2 international flights to LHR everyday with AA and a flight is coming that will be non-stop to Germany as well with AA. Does anyone know if AA has plans on expanding at RDU again?
Nov 17, 2014, 9:37 pm
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In all seriousness, a nearby hub in CLT makes restarting a RDU hub less likely.
Nov 17, 2014, 10:07 pm
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You won't see LIT-NRT anytime soon. Nobody know for sure. You have go through DFW-NRT or LAX-NRT.
Nov 17, 2014, 10:20 pm
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I don't believe you will see any significant growth from AA+US at RDU.
There are not 2 flights from RDU to LHR daily; there is only one (AA 174). AA has not announced any service from RDU to Germany. Most speculation I've heard is that the second nonstop from RDU to Europe, if it happens at all, is likely to be Delta to Paris or Amsterdam.
There are not 2 flights from RDU to LHR daily; there is only one (AA 174). AA has not announced any service from RDU to Germany. Most speculation I've heard is that the second nonstop from RDU to Europe, if it happens at all, is likely to be Delta to Paris or Amsterdam.
Nov 18, 2014, 12:07 am
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Ummm... no. RDU only has one international flight to London and that is the way it is going to be. AA DOES NOT have service from RDU to Germany. They never have done. In the long term, I actually see little hope regarding service from RDU. With Charlotte so close and the fact that population of CLT is almost double of Raleigh, the fact that Charlotte has many Fourtune 500 companies and that CLT has more than 700 daily flights (in peak season), I don't really see how any additional AA expansion from RDU would be feasible and really IMO I don't think RDU-LHR will be around in 5 years, just my two cents.
Nov 18, 2014, 4:35 am
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Whoa. Charlotte MSA was 2,335,358 last year. Triangle MSA was 2,037,430. You should come over sometime and look around. Let's see what happens in CLT when BofA moves the corporate HQ to the northeast, an inevitability.
Have you ever been on AA 173/174? Good load factors, good yield (i.e. mostly paying pax up front), and a guarantee of revenue from local businesses. People have been predicting the failure of this route within 5 years ever since it began in 1994. It's still operating. What I think could easily happen, however, is for AA+US to hand over the route to BA... similar to the BA AUS-LHR route. Personally I'd be fine with that.
Have you ever been on AA 173/174? Good load factors, good yield (i.e. mostly paying pax up front), and a guarantee of revenue from local businesses. People have been predicting the failure of this route within 5 years ever since it began in 1994. It's still operating. What I think could easily happen, however, is for AA+US to hand over the route to BA... similar to the BA AUS-LHR route. Personally I'd be fine with that.
Nov 18, 2014, 6:22 am
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Speculation: RDU... [future plans and expansion?]
RDU-LHR isn't going disappear. However, I would not expect to see any big increase in mainline flights beyond the hubs anytime soon. At this point, I'm just hoping the LAX flight survives.
Nov 18, 2014, 7:34 am
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This about sums it up. RDU-LHR will stay (either with AA or BA). AA has no need to start RDU-XYZ if it can currently be flown RDU-CLT-XYZ (too risky with little reward), but on the other hand as long as the existing routes are profitable there's no reason to move them to CLT and piss off a bunch of customers by making them take a connection (many have been loyal to AA for a long time, since the old hub--- although DL has been siphoning off some elites).
Nov 18, 2014, 9:29 am
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Yeah, yeah. The loss of BoA has been predicted for at least 10 years. BoA won't move, but if they do (extremely small chance) the entire CLT office won't close but would become just a regional and retail banking HQ, but that won't happen.
Nov 18, 2014, 10:20 am
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I agree though that RDU is likely to see a scaling back of AA services or a shift towards the hubs before expanding into new routes; but I'd like to be proven wrong. At least with the merger I have more connection options to get down to the Triangle from YYZ.