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GUIDE: AA Flagship Check-In at JFK, LAX, LHR, MIA, ORD
Dec 9, 2023, 4:58 am
#423
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Dec 9, 2023, 7:42 am
#424
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ive been denied incorrectly multiple times.
It's the most mickey mouse unit of AA. That's a tough bar to cross given APFA is also playing.
Dec 10, 2023, 10:41 am
#425
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As mentioned in post #404, based on the information provided, you have been correctly denied. (I even linked the rules.)
I have no problem calling AA out when they screw up, but in the cases you stated, AA got it correct in denying you access.
work2fly is using foreign carrier status. As an EXP, you have to use the AA rules for EXP / AA Emerald.
Dec 10, 2023, 10:56 am
#426
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As mentioned in post #404, based on the information provided, you have been correctly denied. (I even linked the rules.)
I have no problem calling AA out when they screw up, but in the cases you stated, AA got it correct in denying you access.
I have no problem calling AA out when they screw up, but in the cases you stated, AA got it correct in denying you access.
Independent of this instance, I've been denied access 3 times, twice in LAX and once in MIA on longhaul AA metal up front meeting all the requirements as stated on the page.
Dec 10, 2023, 12:14 pm
#427
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I see what it says, however both AA's on location supervisor and AA Customer Relations confirmed that I have access. I take that as more valid than aa.com, given it's history of inaccurate and outdated data; the AC page still says Mexico and Caribbean don't get access.
Independent of this instance, I've been denied access 3 times, twice in LAX and once in MIA on longhaul AA metal up front meeting all the requirements as stated on the page.
Independent of this instance, I've been denied access 3 times, twice in LAX and once in MIA on longhaul AA metal up front meeting all the requirements as stated on the page.
I think the FCI rules are pretty clear and consistent.
Long hall up front on AA is not specific enough; Long haul on "upfront" on a 787 does not give you access; long haul 77W FF gives you access. (Your post wasn't specific.)
On your previous post where you felt you had access, you were coming off QR biz as an EXP. That does not give you access and they were correct in denying you.
I am not trying to argue with you; Just trying to make you feel better about being denied.
Dec 10, 2023, 3:10 pm
#428
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I think the FCI rules are pretty clear and consistent.
Long hall up front on AA is not specific enough; Long haul on "upfront" on a 787 does not give you access; long haul 77W FF gives you access. (Your post wasn't specific.)
On your previous post where you felt you had access, you were coming off QR biz as an EXP. That does not give you access and they were correct in denying you.
I am not trying to argue with you; Just trying to make you feel better about being denied.
Long hall up front on AA is not specific enough; Long haul on "upfront" on a 787 does not give you access; long haul 77W FF gives you access. (Your post wasn't specific.)
On your previous post where you felt you had access, you were coming off QR biz as an EXP. That does not give you access and they were correct in denying you.
I am not trying to argue with you; Just trying to make you feel better about being denied.
Dec 11, 2023, 4:00 pm
#430
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The published rules say EXP : You can use Flagship® First Check-In if you’re flying on qualifying international flights operated by American (regardless of cabin). I have been denied 3 times doing exactly this. LAX-SYD, LAX-HKG and MIA-LHR all on AA metal in J/F.[/QUOTE]
Certainly if you are flying AA to SYD or LHR you should have access. (Pretty sure AA hasn't flown LAX to HKG in years.)
AA elites cannot access FFCI on a JL INTL flight.
Dec 11, 2023, 5:47 pm
#431
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I'm assuing that nothing has changed here: All AA marketed and metal. Flying ORD(J) -> JFK(F) -> LHR allows FFCI at ORD. On return LHR(F) -> JFK(J) -> ORD allows FFCI at LHR AND JFK after emerging from Cutoms/Immigation. (If for nothing else at JFK other than (maybe) getting to the front of the precheck lane.) All 3-cabin long-haul based, not status based. Correct?
Dec 11, 2023, 6:48 pm
#432
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I'm assuing that nothing has changed here: All AA marketed and metal. Flying ORD(J) -> JFK(F) -> LHR allows FFCI at ORD. On return LHR(F) -> JFK(J) -> ORD allows FFCI at LHR AND JFK after emerging from Cutoms/Immigation. (If for nothing else at JFK other than (maybe) getting to the front of the precheck lane.) All 3-cabin long-haul based, not status based. Correct?
For, you ticket gets you in.
AA FF JFK-LHR will get you FFCI at ORD.
AA FF LHR-JFK will get you FFCI at JFK. (And Chelsea Lounge in JFK)
Dec 11, 2023, 7:06 pm
#433
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A little confusing as there is virtually no J domestic flights on AA except 3 cabin, which I am almost certain they don't fly ORD-JFK.
For, you ticket gets you in.
AA FF JFK-LHR will get you FFCI at ORD.
AA FF LHR-JFK will get you FFCI at JFK. (And Chelsea Lounge in JFK)
For, you ticket gets you in.
AA FF JFK-LHR will get you FFCI at ORD.
AA FF LHR-JFK will get you FFCI at JFK. (And Chelsea Lounge in JFK)
I did screw up when I said "all 3-class" - clearly, the domestic legs are not. And AA no longer flys a same-day connection direct to ORD from JFK. Just checking on the connection still working for JFK.
Last edited by Madison Guy; Dec 11, 2023 at 7:15 pm
Dec 12, 2023, 8:06 am
#434
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Yup and the staff fail to follow this. HKG was shortly before the flight got cut. I don't live in a hub, so it's pretty rare that I originate heading internationally in a city with this checkin.
Dec 14, 2023, 1:11 pm
#435
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I see what it says, however both AA's on location supervisor and AA Customer Relations confirmed that I have access. I take that as more valid than aa.com, given it's history of inaccurate and outdated data; the AC page still says Mexico and Caribbean don't get access.
Independent of this instance, I've been denied access 3 times, twice in LAX and once in MIA on longhaul AA metal up front meeting all the requirements as stated on the page.
Independent of this instance, I've been denied access 3 times, twice in LAX and once in MIA on longhaul AA metal up front meeting all the requirements as stated on the page.