Bttc

Does anyone have experience with this post the Oneworld changes? Does AA still cover misconnects on separate Oneworld tickets? How about two separate AA tickets?

JDiver

The Wikipost contains AA language regarding AA reaccommodation policies for IROPS, etc. updated by AA 18 May 2016 and a link to the policy in PDF form. It doesn't appear the policy has changed or has been superseded by new policy.

jsy9999

Hello! I have a up coming trip to Europe.

For my domestic flight to ORD, it's on AA (ticketed and operated by AA). I have a 10 hour layover in ORD before traveling on Aer Lingus to Dublin, Ireland. The Aer Lingus ticket is redeemed with British Airways Avios.

Same situation on the return flights with just a shorter connection in ORD (3 hours).

BA is part of OneWorld, but Aer Lingus is not (yet) part of OW.

Does anyone know If I'll be protected through AA's policy or have any experience in the past that can share?

Thanks in advance!

Gig103

I clearly hope to not to need this. But if there is an IIROP and I have checked luggage, but AA doesn't interline bags, what happens if by the time the first flight lands and bags are retrieved if it's under the 1 hour cutoff for the next OW flight? And do they protect the same cabin as if it was AA to AA?

scnzzz

On the first, I rather suspect YMMV. LHR in particular will be bad as they are militant IMO about conformance times at check-in and security.

On the other, I would not count on protection absent both status and a helpful AAgent.

They are *really* trying to push people to paying more to be on a single ticket.

scnzzz

With a 10 hour layover on the outbound, you'd need a heck of a delay to need protection! On the return, yeah, 3 hours can be dicey in ORD if you don't have Global Entry and you see a delay of more than an hour...since you'll be coming into T5, have to clear CBP, and schelp your bags over to T3 on the train to check in again.

That said, given two tickets, one of which is non-OW (as of now), I'd not count on protection unless you are proactive and are able to get protection by calling an AAgent in the event of a delay on your EI leg.

FWIW, I don't think it matters whether your EI leg is on avios or cash.

Gig103

I agree with what you're saying about being dependent on conformance and helpful agents, to the point that I've decided to go to LAX the night before. Even an added hotel expense is worth a fraction of the difference in my fare (Amex companion fare, a delta of $7100 R/T LAX and $13000 R/T PHX).

lkar

I am currently booked MAD-ORD on IB. I would like to purchase a separate AA ticket from ORD to PHX, which would give me a 3 hour ORD connection (within MCT).

If my inbound on IB is late, does the AA policy (assuming not changed before my trip) protect me and get me on a later ORD-PHX flight? My concern is this language in the policy: "In the event of a disruption on the originating ticket, the carrier responsible for the disruption will be required to reroute the customer to their final destination." This seems to suggest that it's IB's responsibility to get me to PHX, and (1) I assume IB does not have the same policy, and (2) even if it did, I have no luck ever getting IB to do anything ever.

Let's say the IB flight is 5 hours late, or even gets me there the next day. Can I just show up at customer service in ORD and ask to be flown to PHX?

No checked luggage.

guv1976

Go to IB first at ORD, and ask for reaccommodation. If IB refuses, go to AA and tell them that IB refused to reaccomodate you. AA will ensure that you are reaccomodated. But be sure to carry with you a print out of the reaccomodation policy if you can still find it.

Also, note that if the IB flight is substantially delayed for reasons within IB's control, you should be entitled to substantial cash compensation under EC261/2004. You might have to fight to get it, though.

lkar

Got it -- thanks for the advice!

dakaix

I'm in the process of ticketing an ex-EU TATL with a TA. This involves connecting to a domestic side trip, with all segments in a single PNR (albeit priced as two separate returns). Ticket stock is 001, all segments are on AA (except the last leg to "AAA", which is an AA codeshare on AY).

Itinerary would be:

AAA-BBB-CCC-DDD//DDD-CCC-EEE-CCC-DDD//DDD-CCC-FFF-AAA*

AAA - TATL leg
* - AA Codeshare on AY

Can anyone confirm that the above would be protected incase of a misconnect? I'm particularly thinking of the "DDD" connections, as these are tight turnarounds (90mins, with baggage) and there are limited alternative routing's on the same day.

Dave Noble

If this is all part of one ticketed itinerary, then there is no issue at all

If you have sectors such that you are going to do AAA-BBB-AAA with no stopover in BBB, you will have the issue that you will need to collect bags and check back in

dakaix

Thanks for the quick reply Dave Noble! I'm expecting there will be a need to collect the bag and check-in again on each DDD turn; simply because we're routing through CCC twice on the same day (and therefore the bag tag couldn't have the same code twice).

I've allowed 90mins on the outbound routing to handle this, in the knowledge that there is another flight 1hr later should there be any delays. Likewise on the return we have 130mins in hand... however there isn't a later flight there that would connect to our TATL (without a re-route).

Given in this case that DDD is actually San Antonio (SAT) I've judged (based on the terminal map) that this should be plenty of time... unless of IRROPS, but then we should be protected anyhow. However I'm willing to be contradicted by anyone with local knowledge!

Infocustv

Assuming this is the correct thread for this question.
Travelling through JFK on two separate tickets with a 90 minute connection time. with checked baggage. I f I don't make the connection is it protected would AA get me on the next AA flight JFK to LHR without a fee?
current itinerary arrive at JFK from MIA at 18:30 second ticket departs JFK to LHR at 20:00
All on AA.
MCT at JFK is 75mins D/I and I have 90 in theory.

mrkymark

And how about the issue of a AA Codeshare? The above example was all on one ticket but what if...

AS metal (AA codeshare) AA stock, SEA-SFO (first ticket)
AA metal SFO-JFK (second ticket)

Would OW protections still be in place for the AS flight? I don't see why not, right?