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MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction / scarcity discussion

Old Jan 18, 2018, 3:35 pm
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Not sure if it is an isolated situation, but I received notifications from several EF alerts for domestic (and Mexico) Saaver F/J seats for early July over the past few days. They are unfortunately insufficient to replace the less than optimal connections currently booked, wondering if this is part of a broader trend.
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 4:03 pm
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Originally Posted by diver858
Not sure if it is an isolated situation, but I received notifications from several EF alerts for domestic (and Mexico) Saaver F/J seats for early July over the past few days. They are unfortunately insufficient to replace the less than optimal connections currently booked, wondering if this is part of a broader trend.
I had a saaver F seat get released on Monday for a route in October. On an A319! Only a 40-minute flight, but with only 8 F seats that surprised me. Part of a larger trip and I have my Inbound AA flights back from Europe booked in a manner that I'm thoroughly happy with 9 months out. This time last year I would have laughed at anyone that told me they were planning to get to Europe in SAAver J on AA metal.

Been working equally hard for DL metal with VS miles on the outbound and best I can tell there's only a single DL route to mainland Europe with 2 Saver J seats within +/- 3 days of my desired travel date. That's looking across DL's website, FlyingBlue's website, and ExpertFlyer.
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Old Jan 25, 2018, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by FlyerTalkUserName
...I have my Inbound AA flights back from Europe booked in a manner that I'm thoroughly happy with 9 months out. This time last year I would have laughed at anyone that told me they were planning to get to Europe in SAAver J on AA metal.
AA released (1) Saaver F seat on my existing TATL flight on Tuesday so I called in and bumped up Mrs. FlyerTalkUserName from J to F. They promptly released another one yesterday so we're both in F LHR-MIA. Surprised to snag (2) seats in Saaver F 9 months out, but I'll take it.
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Old Jan 25, 2018, 3:36 pm
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Managed to find a Saver F seat on JFK-SFO on June 13 which was really exciting. However, I can't find any Saver Y or Saver F on any RDU-JFK flight that day or any Saver F on any CLT-JFK flights. Two CLT-JFK flights have Saver Y that day, I guess I should say that you that I can drive 150 miles to fly Saver Y on a "First Class" award ticket?
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Old Jan 27, 2018, 2:29 pm
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We are returning to LA from a three-month cruise on December 21, 2018 and will be flying home to TPA. Knowing that was a prime season, I started looking on January 24th for any MS seats to TPA . None. No business class; no economy class. Just economy anytime at 65k or business anytime at 90k. Can we expect to see milesaver seats eventually released, or are we relegated to spending 130k for economy or shelving out $700 for a ticket or that date? I'm thinking that it is back to EF time.
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Old Jan 27, 2018, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by mooreva
We are returning to LA from a three-month cruise on December 21, 2018 and will be flying home to TPA. Knowing that was a prime season, I started looking on January 24th for any MS seats to TPA . None. No business class; no economy class. Just economy anytime at 65k or business anytime at 90k. Can we expect to see milesaver seats eventually released, or are we relegated to spending 130k for economy or shelving out $700 for a ticket or that date? I'm thinking that it is back to EF time.
Being the Friday before xmas I think saver inventory will be tough to come by. My folks live in Tampa and I flew ORD-TPA the Friday before xmas this year. I set an EF alerts and it became available in early February during a schedule change when they opened the award floodgates for about 4 hours. Unless you catch one of those releases I think it will be tough....especially since there is no non-stop. I had set another Ef alert for my flight for my brother and it never opened up the rest of the year.

Is flying into MCO an option? AS has 6 seats available for 12.5k on the non-stop LAX-MCO on 12/21. I can't imagine a one way car rental would be too bad. It departs at 11am so might be too early depending on cruise disembarkation. But if not it's a decent option.
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Old Jan 27, 2018, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by chicago747
Being the Friday before xmas I think saver inventory will be tough to come by. My folks live in Tampa and I flew ORD-TPA the Friday before. I set an EF alerts and it became available in early February during a schedule change when they open the award floodgates for about 4 hours. Unless you catch one of those releases I think it will be tough....especially since there is no non-stop. I had set another Ef alert for my flight for my brother and it never opened up the rest of the year.

Is flying into MCO an option? AS has 6 seats available for 12.5k on the non-stop LAX-MCO on 12/21. I can't imagine a one way car rental would be too bad. It departs at 11am so might be too early depending on cruise disembarkation. But if not it's a decent option.
That is a possibility. It is an easy run from MCO to Tampa. The 11:00 might work since I think LAX is about a half an hour from the port, and we have unlimited luggage which the cruise line will ship, leaving only carryon's for us. Thanks for the suggestion.

BTW, do we have to book AS through AA or can we do it directly with AS with miles?
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Old Jan 27, 2018, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by mooreva
That is a possibility. It is an easy run from MCO to Tampa. The 11:00 might work since I think LAX is about a half an hour from the port, and we have unlimited luggage which the cruise line will ship, leaving only carryon's for us. Thanks for the suggestion.

BTW, do we have to book AS through AA or can we do it directly with AS with miles?
If you are talking about the Friday before XMAS, you will have both rush hour and LAX will be one of the busiest days of the year. Just leave plenty of time.
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Old Jan 28, 2018, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by mooreva
BTW, do we have to book AS through AA or can we do it directly with AS with miles?
You can book using AA miles thru AA (on aa.com) or using AS miles thru AS (alaskaairlines.com).
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Old Jan 28, 2018, 1:22 pm
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Chicago747 - thanks to you we now have a hold on that 11:00 a.m. AS flight to MCO. Now I am waiting on the opinions of my fellow cruisers as to the likelihood of making that flight. General consensus: Can be done, but risky. I'm trying other options but so far none have emerged. And we aren't driving back to Tampa from LA! Anyway, your suggestion bore fruit. Thanks.
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Old Jan 28, 2018, 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by mooreva
Chicago747 - thanks to you we now have a hold on that 11:00 a.m. AS flight to MCO. Now I am waiting on the opinions of my fellow cruisers as to the likelihood of making that flight. General consensus: Can be done, but risky. I'm trying other options but so far none have emerged. And we aren't driving back to Tampa from LA! Anyway, your suggestion bore fruit. Thanks.
I think it's dependant on disembarkment time. For Friday before Xmas, I'd want 3 hours, allowing for traffic snafu and airport chaos. A little more if I didn't have PreCheck. But I"m risk adverse these days, others might cut it closer.
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Old Jan 28, 2018, 1:27 pm
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wouldn’t lose any sleep with the 11am

san pedro to lax via 110 express lanes to 105 is very easy
most ubers have express lane transponders, all uber blacks do
30 minutes tops, add 15 for LAX slowness on the U

friday before christmas is not a busy rush hour at all in LA
the last two weeks of December are a joy getting around town

all cruises allow walk-offs first, in an uber at 8am

i’ve made 945am flights at MIA post cruise with time to visit AMEX Centurion lounge





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Old Jan 28, 2018, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Colin
wouldnt lose any sleep with the 11am

san pedro to lax via 110 express lanes to 105 is very easy
most ubers have express lane transponders, all uber blacks do
30 minutes tops, add 15 for LAX slowness on the U
friday before christmas is not a busy rush hour at all in LA
the last two weeks of December are a joy getting around town
all cruises allow walk-offs first, in an uber at 8am
ive made 945am flights at MIA post cruise with time to visit AMEX Centurion lounge



Thank you! That settles it. We will have no luggage, all of it being shipped by the cruise line; customs and immigration having been completed in a prior port; and we can walk off with carry on. No luggage to check and we have the GEC. We can go right to the gate. So . . . unless the ship is unforeseeably detained getting into port or an earthquake on the way, we should make it.
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Old Mar 5, 2018, 10:02 pm
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When did AAdvantage get so bad?

Been busy so haven't booked tickets recently, now the program is a total joke. Quasi-revenue based (as soon as tickets reach certain price point, remove all seats from inventory), hide available seats from partners (12.5k savers unavailable on BA), no inventory on flights where there is inventory to use same exact flight as a connection, etc. When was all this changed?
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Old Mar 5, 2018, 10:06 pm
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When was all this changed?
March 22, 2016
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