Feb 18, 2015, 5:57 pm
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AAdvantage eShoppping by Cartera Commerce
Using, earning miles, problems, etc. (Consolidated thread)
American Airlines is not the contact for Cartera / AAdvantage eShopping .
AAdvantage eShopping FAQs and an e-contact form can be found via the "Contact Us" link at the bottom left corner of the home page.
If you have trouble getting purchases to track, there's also a browser extension to help.
A related article, highlighting an interview of Cartera Commerce CEO Tom Bercher, is "Secrets of Cartera Commerce Revealed: Inside the Company that Brings You Miles for Online Shopping" by Gary Leff on March 3, 2014. Link.
As described in this thread, AAdvantage Shopping now offers a downloadable button installable on your desktop (not mobile) device to facilitate e-shopping. Link.
Older posts may be read at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...or-consol.html
Notes about Giftcards.com:
Some anti-virus software silently blocks tracking, and you may want to consider disabling it for your purchase.
Using, earning miles, problems, etc. (Consolidated thread)
American Airlines is not the contact for Cartera / AAdvantage eShopping .
AAdvantage eShopping FAQs and an e-contact form can be found via the "Contact Us" link at the bottom left corner of the home page.
If you have trouble getting purchases to track, there's also a browser extension to help.
Cartera website: http://www.cartera.com
Cartera Commerce, Inc.
One Cranberry Hill
Lexington, Massachusetts 02421
Tel. (781) 541-6800 Fax: (781) 541-6801
For general inquiries, please contact [email protected] or 888.456.6255
Cartera Commerce, Inc.
One Cranberry Hill
Lexington, Massachusetts 02421
Tel. (781) 541-6800 Fax: (781) 541-6801
For general inquiries, please contact [email protected] or 888.456.6255
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This thread is the sole thread to address issues with AAdvantage eShopping (operated by Cartera Commerce). Other queries or complaints will invariably end up merged into this thread. All posts must comply with FlyerTalk Guidelines and Rules / TOS, or may be summarily deleted or edited by moderators.
This thread is the sole thread to address issues with AAdvantage eShopping (operated by Cartera Commerce). Other queries or complaints will invariably end up merged into this thread. All posts must comply with FlyerTalk Guidelines and Rules / TOS, or may be summarily deleted or edited by moderators.
A related article, highlighting an interview of Cartera Commerce CEO Tom Bercher, is "Secrets of Cartera Commerce Revealed: Inside the Company that Brings You Miles for Online Shopping" by Gary Leff on March 3, 2014. Link.
As described in this thread, AAdvantage Shopping now offers a downloadable button installable on your desktop (not mobile) device to facilitate e-shopping. Link.
Older posts may be read at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...or-consol.html
Notes about Giftcards.com:
- A separate thread exists for discussing Giftcards.com and likely has more data points than this generic thread.
- Purchases from giftcards.com earn miles on the first $2,000 spent in the named calendar month, meaning for example between March 1st and March 31st. [Note: as of Aug 2023, the $2k limit is per order, not per purchase]
- Giftcards.com has had various limits over the years, and it was always by calendar month.
- Some data points show the $2,000 monthly limit is not always enforced. [Note: as of Aug 2023, the $2k limit is per order, not per purchase]
- In 2022, larger orders track more slowly, and you may need to wait a full month to see miles. Strong advice from the thread is to make multiple small purchases (say under $300) rather than large ones to avoid the dreaded "manual review"
Some anti-virus software silently blocks tracking, and you may want to consider disabling it for your purchase.
AAdvantage eShopping / Cartera Questions / Discussion / Vendors / Issues (archive)
Aug 16, 2022, 10:20 pm
#1351
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The only one that tracks but largely never posts is Moo. Tracks like a charm and then nada.
Aug 17, 2022, 10:58 am
#1352
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 134
Any hope for LP for an order made a few days ago but hasn't even been tracked?
About ~$1.5k from Samsung and the order has already shipped. I'm honestly considering returning the items because the LP was part of the reason for the order.
About ~$1.5k from Samsung and the order has already shipped. I'm honestly considering returning the items because the LP was part of the reason for the order.
Aug 17, 2022, 6:59 pm
#1353
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,303
Just a note on terminology; once it's appeared in recent store visits with a dollar amount it's "tracked". That is a significant step because it means that the merchant has relayed the amount of the order back to the portal.
Unfortunately it may take a while to post because of the issues with large orders, already mentioned.
As for the date, it will post backdated to the purchase date (similar to a partner flight -- it may take a while to post, but it's backdated to the travel date). Of course if it will get you over the top to a new status level, you don't want to be waiting weeks or months for it to finally post. Again, buying one card at a time solves this problem.
Unfortunately it may take a while to post because of the issues with large orders, already mentioned.
As for the date, it will post backdated to the purchase date (similar to a partner flight -- it may take a while to post, but it's backdated to the travel date). Of course if it will get you over the top to a new status level, you don't want to be waiting weeks or months for it to finally post. Again, buying one card at a time solves this problem.
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Aug 17, 2022, 7:03 pm
#1354
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Aug 17, 2022, 7:04 pm
#1355
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: DCA
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What makes you think AA would care? This scheme is almost certainly working exactly as they intended it to. Selling miles to Cartera is surely more profitable than flying planes.
Aug 17, 2022, 7:35 pm
#1356
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,303
I guess I'm unfamiliar with Cartera. With status starting at 30k LP, with this portal/GCC scheme you could get close to that over the course of a few weeks. I guess AA isn't fronting the discount on GCC which is the real key.
Aug 17, 2022, 8:08 pm
#1357
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Gold status costs AA nothing really. All the benefits are sunk costs and if it entices people to fly AA more, they win again.
Aug 18, 2022, 5:33 am
#1358
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I'm late to this party. If I buy a virtual Visa GC from giftcards.com through the AA shopping portal, can I use the same virtual visa GC I just bought to pay on another AA shopping portal vendor, to kind of double dip on AA loyalty points?
Aug 18, 2022, 6:07 am
#1359
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Thank you, I guess GCC is the only entity losing money here.
Aug 18, 2022, 6:52 am
#1360
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Location: DCA
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I wouldn't be so sure about that either. There is a reason they constantly sell these things below face value. This industry has a tremendous amount of spillage, with people losing track of GCs or not bothering to spend them down to the last penny all the time. They also know what they're doing here.
Aug 18, 2022, 7:08 am
#1361
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I wouldn't be so sure about that either. There is a reason they constantly sell these things below face value. This industry has a tremendous amount of spillage, with people losing track of GCs or not bothering to spend them down to the last penny all the time. They also know what they're doing here.
Aug 18, 2022, 7:26 am
#1362
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,303
I agree that is true overall, but certainly they are losing money on many individual transactions, and I would expect the majority of this influx of FT posters. Whether that is big enough for them to notice or care? Who knows? But selling $250 for $243 plus paying AA for 3x miles results in a negative 5-10% margin before considering any cost/overhead/etc. I find it hard to believe that can be sustained indefinitely, but I am happy to play along while it does.
Aug 18, 2022, 7:34 am
#1363
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As I'm sure others have noticed, the fine print has a $2k per month limit on GCC orders. Is this calendar month or rolling 30 days ? I guess as soon as these deals on GCC go live people just do 8 individual offers ($250 E-VGC/E-MCGC depending on which has the discount) that day and then they are done for the month (assuming there is a decent portal stack)? Either way GCC does define their loss on FT types?
Aug 18, 2022, 7:43 am
#1364
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,303
Without a doubt, $2k is a nice round number per month for me. However, I made my orders after the 11th of this month and the deal runs through the 11th of next month and was wanting to know if I can get the AA portal 3x (assuming AA portal keeps GCC at 3x for 3 more weeks) on another $2k in Sept. Appreciate all the help so far from everyone.
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Aug 18, 2022, 7:55 am
#1365
Join Date: Jun 2009
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I spent a ton at Samsung last week on the 11th for 6 miles per $ and have only received a tracking email after 1 week. Would be nice for each store to set expectations on their average timing, or if a certain amount warrants manual review.