Apr 11, 2013, 8:02 pm
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Lounge Access for oneworld First or Business Class Passengers
NOTE: This thread has received little use since the establishment of the thread HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017). Please use that thread to inquire about Lounge access. A few more recent posts have been moved to that thread.
Relax in more premium lounges around the world
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
The following exceptions apply:
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
- Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result.
- Lounges operated by third parties are identified in the lounge finder tool (above). Access to these lounges is restricted to eligible customers when travelling on specific oneworld airlines as shown in the lounge finder tool.
- Arrivals lounges are excluded.
- Spa and Pre-Flight Dining facilities are excluded.
- British Airways Concorde lounges are excluded.
- Other exceptions may apply (see below).
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
- Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.
- First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.
- Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:
- First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
- Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
- You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
- First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.
- Guests are not permitted at Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha or Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4.
Please see the following resources for further details on Class of Service Based Lounge Access Rules:
. . . ● oneworld Lounge Access Wizard , created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe
. . . ● AA.com: AA Lounge Access Rules
. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool
. . . ● FlyerGuide Wiki: Lounges
. . . ● FT thread: AAdvantage status-based access to AA & oneworld lounges (consolidated)
ARCHIVE: Lounge Access Based on Class of Service (master thread)
Jan 28, 2016, 10:51 am
#301
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As an arriving intl F pax you would be allowed FL access per the rules.
What I can't personally speak to is the physical location of the FL in LAX and whether that presents any access issues, since I never fly through LAX.
I would tell you that I'm looking forward to "8 bottles of Salon in JL F" but in my experience they only load 2 per flight. After that they drop you down to the swill, aka Dom.
What I can't personally speak to is the physical location of the FL in LAX and whether that presents any access issues, since I never fly through LAX.
I would tell you that I'm looking forward to "8 bottles of Salon in JL F" but in my experience they only load 2 per flight. After that they drop you down to the swill, aka Dom.
BTW, the FL is in terminal 4, and there is an airside tunnel walkway that connects 4-5-6. So, access shouldn't be an issue.
Also, JL is now pouring Bollinger La Grande Annee as the secondary F Champagne – for when the Salon runs out.
Cheers,
M
Jan 28, 2016, 10:51 am
#302
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The FL is the same location as the AC. The AC is in the AA terminal, where AA flights depart, but not where JL flights arrive, so there is a bit of a trek, either way you'll need to do that trek.
Jan 28, 2016, 10:58 am
#303
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Thanks for the info re: the backup champagne, did not know they had switched since I last flew them.
Jan 28, 2016, 11:58 am
#304
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(There will be a TSA rescreening, though, but it will happen inside.)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ly-2016-a.html
I also think OP would be entitled to the OW F lounge in TBIT as well by rule, right? On a 7 hour layover I'd probably pick that IF OP can get in (they might exclude from access if they are busy).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html
Jan 28, 2016, 12:29 pm
#305
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Merged with existing thread for discussion of Class of Service-based lounge access. Thanks. 
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Jan 28, 2016, 12:40 pm
#306
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Depending on when OP's trip is, there may be a landside connection for TBIT->T4, so at least OP won't have to leave the terminal and walk outside.
(There will be a TSA rescreening, though, but it will happen inside.)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ly-2016-a.html
I also think OP would be entitled to the OW F lounge in TBIT as well by rule, right? On a 7 hour layover I'd probably pick that IF OP can get in (they might exclude from access if they are busy).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html
(There will be a TSA rescreening, though, but it will happen inside.)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ly-2016-a.html
I also think OP would be entitled to the OW F lounge in TBIT as well by rule, right? On a 7 hour layover I'd probably pick that IF OP can get in (they might exclude from access if they are busy).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html
My trip is this weekend, so no airside connector...
Feb 2, 2016, 9:51 am
#307
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I depart DCA at 8pm and arrive in ORD at 9pm. The next morning at 11am I am flying JAL ORD-NRT in F.
Reading the policy, I do have access in ORD (FL and AC) the next morning which is the day of the TPAC F flight. I would not have access in DCA the night before.
Am I correct? Is the policy strictly enforced?
Reading the policy, I do have access in ORD (FL and AC) the next morning which is the day of the TPAC F flight. I would not have access in DCA the night before.
Am I correct? Is the policy strictly enforced?
Feb 2, 2016, 10:21 am
#308
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You are correct.
Feb 3, 2016, 3:15 pm
#309
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One more:
JL F NRT-ORD connecting to UA domestic. During my 6hr layover, I still should be able to access the FL due to the JL F flight, right? It doesn't matter that my next flight is not a one world flight, does it?
JL F NRT-ORD connecting to UA domestic. During my 6hr layover, I still should be able to access the FL due to the JL F flight, right? It doesn't matter that my next flight is not a one world flight, does it?
Feb 3, 2016, 6:40 pm
#310
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Feb 16, 2016, 12:07 pm
#311
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Hello,
I just needed a confirmation.
I have NRT-JFK-YUL (ticketed by JL) with NRT-JFK in JL J. I am assuming that AC lounge access at JFK is denied based on JFK-YUL (on AA) being one class Y and this:
"First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean;"
I just needed a confirmation.
I have NRT-JFK-YUL (ticketed by JL) with NRT-JFK in JL J. I am assuming that AC lounge access at JFK is denied based on JFK-YUL (on AA) being one class Y and this:
"First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean;"
Feb 16, 2016, 3:39 pm
#312
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Hello,
I just needed a confirmation.
I have NRT-JFK-YUL (ticketed by JL) with NRT-JFK in JL J. I am assuming that AC lounge access at JFK is denied based on JFK-YUL (on AA) being one class Y and this:
"First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean;"
I just needed a confirmation.
I have NRT-JFK-YUL (ticketed by JL) with NRT-JFK in JL J. I am assuming that AC lounge access at JFK is denied based on JFK-YUL (on AA) being one class Y and this:
"First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean;"
Feb 18, 2016, 9:23 am
#313
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What lounge can I use?
I am still confused after reading these lounge rules. Maybe someone can help me.
I am flying an award F AA ticket SJC-DFW-iCN. In order to catch the morning flight to ICN, I need to overnight in Dallas. My questions are:
1. Is my luggage check all the way to ICN or I need to re-check it at DFW?
2. Is there a lounge I can use in both SJC and DFW? And are there lounges to choose from or basically 1 lounge?
On my return, I am flying an award (AA) ticket, Cathay pacific business and AA first HKG-LAX-SJC, 4hours+ layover in LAX, do I have any access to the lounge? Cathay's lounge or AA lounge.?
Please advise, thanks.
I am flying an award F AA ticket SJC-DFW-iCN. In order to catch the morning flight to ICN, I need to overnight in Dallas. My questions are:
1. Is my luggage check all the way to ICN or I need to re-check it at DFW?
2. Is there a lounge I can use in both SJC and DFW? And are there lounges to choose from or basically 1 lounge?
On my return, I am flying an award (AA) ticket, Cathay pacific business and AA first HKG-LAX-SJC, 4hours+ layover in LAX, do I have any access to the lounge? Cathay's lounge or AA lounge.?
Please advise, thanks.
Feb 18, 2016, 10:01 am
#314
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I am still confused after reading these lounge rules. Maybe someone can help me.
I am flying an award F AA ticket SJC-DFW-iCN. In order to catch the morning flight to ICN, I need to overnight in Dallas. My questions are:
1. Is my luggage check all the way to ICN or I need to re-check it at DFW?
2. Is there a lounge I can use in both SJC and DFW? And are there lounges to choose from or basically 1 lounge?
On my return, I am flying an award (AA) ticket, Cathay pacific business and AA first HKG-LAX-SJC, 4hours+ layover in LAX, do I have any access to the lounge? Cathay's lounge or AA lounge.?
Please advise, thanks.
I am flying an award F AA ticket SJC-DFW-iCN. In order to catch the morning flight to ICN, I need to overnight in Dallas. My questions are:
1. Is my luggage check all the way to ICN or I need to re-check it at DFW?
2. Is there a lounge I can use in both SJC and DFW? And are there lounges to choose from or basically 1 lounge?
On my return, I am flying an award (AA) ticket, Cathay pacific business and AA first HKG-LAX-SJC, 4hours+ layover in LAX, do I have any access to the lounge? Cathay's lounge or AA lounge.?
Please advise, thanks.
There is no lounge at SJC; the Admirals Club was closed some time ago. If it were open, you'd not have access.
There are four Admirals Clubs at DFW you could use. ("A" has the best showers and a small workout room.) As you'll be departing to Incheon from terminal D, you'll probably want to use the D Club prior to departure.
Return, you'll have several lounges available at HKG. I suggest you go to the "GUIDE" sticky and use the Lounge Dashboard post to access the threads on different lounges you'll have access to.
As you are arriving LAX in oneworld Business and departing the same day on a oneworld flight, you will have access to the LAX Admirals Club.
Mar 6, 2016, 2:32 pm
#315
Join Date: Feb 2016
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FL Lounge Access Denied in JFK
I booked my family on a round trip FC award ticket with a leg operated by AY which only offers 2 class aircraft from JFK.
They were denied access to FL due to the service on the aircraft even though the ticket is A in all other segments including inbound to JFK from CLT.
This is BS...I argued with the AC manager for 15 and she basically told me to deal with it. I am traveling on a different ticket as an EXP on business...so angry. Are they following the rules to the T? Anyone I should bring this up to?
They were denied access to FL due to the service on the aircraft even though the ticket is A in all other segments including inbound to JFK from CLT.
This is BS...I argued with the AC manager for 15 and she basically told me to deal with it. I am traveling on a different ticket as an EXP on business...so angry. Are they following the rules to the T? Anyone I should bring this up to?