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Old Nov 6, 2011, 8:57 pm
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In your post, KVS is querying the QF public website for availability. Generally speaking, the website is responding that seats on the QF flight number are available to all QF partners. QF has numerous partners, just like AA does. The catch is that each partner decides how its miles may be used. AA does not allow AA miles to be used to book codeshares. But that doesn't necessarily mean, for example, that BA prohibits codeshares from being booked. (I don't actually know what BA's policy is.)
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Old Nov 7, 2011, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Paulchili
I have a problem interpreting J award availbility from SCL to SYD for Oct 1 (this is an example only):

It shows availability on both th QF28 and LA(QF codeshare).
When I call AA they can only see the QF28 availability.
Why does the QF codeshare 322 also show availability when there is none?
As Austinrunner had mentioned above, Awards can only booked using 'real' (i.e. non-codeshared) flight numbers.

However, some FF programmes allow codeshare redemptions on their own codeshare flights for their own FFP members, as an exception to this rule. For example, QF FF members can redeem on QF/LA codeshares (as you have discovered), CO OP members can redeem on CO/VS codeshares.

Originally Posted by Paulchili
OK - but what is the significance of CS+ if you cannot book it as a QF or LA award (with AA miles)? What does that CS+
really mean in terms of awards?
If you are redeeming AADV miles, it has no significance. You can either ignore (or Filter-out) those codeshares or use the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method, which will not list them:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.7.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]
Code:
SCL  Santiago De Chile Arturo Merino Benitez CL [SCEL]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
MON  01 Oct 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
QF         28      SCL   13:35     SYD   17:55 +1       0   CS-  WS+  YS+
QF/LA      322     SCL   23:20     SYD   07:40 +2       1   CS+  WS-  YS-
[KVS Availability Tool 6.7.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
SCL  Santiago De Chile Arturo Merino Benitez CL [SCEL]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
MON  01 Oct 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
QF         28      SCL   13:35     SYD   17:55 +1           YS5  WS3
IB         6830    SCL   13:05     MAD   07:00 +1           YS4
 -> BA/CJ  8754    MAD   16:50 +1  LCY   18:10 +1           CS6  YS8
 -> BA     15      LHR   21:15 +1  SYD   05:15 +3           YS2
IB         6830    SCL   13:05     MAD   07:00 +1           YS4
 -> IB     3164    MAD   13:10 +1  LHR   14:35 +1           CS8
 -> BA     15      LHR   21:15 +1  SYD   05:15 +3           YS2
IB         6830    SCL   13:05     MAD   07:00 +1           YS4
 -> IB     3172    MAD   15:00 +1  LHR   16:20 +1           CS9  YS4
 -> BA     15      LHR   21:15 +1  SYD   05:15 +3           YS2
IB         6830    SCL   13:05     MAD   07:00 +1           YS4
 -> IB     3166    MAD   16:30 +1  LHR   17:50 +1           CS9
 -> BA     15      LHR   21:15 +1  SYD   05:15 +3           YS2
IB         6830    SCL   13:05     MAD   07:00 +1           YS4
 -> IB     3176    MAD   13:35 +1  LHR   14:55 +1           CS7  YS4
 -> BA     15      LHR   21:15 +1  SYD   05:15 +3           YS2
IB         6830    SCL   13:05     MAD   07:00 +1           YS4
 -> BA     459     MAD   14:00 +1  LHR   15:20 +1           CS4  YS8
 -> BA     15      LHR   21:15 +1  SYD   05:15 +3           YS2
IB         6830    SCL   13:05     MAD   07:00 +1           YS4
 -> BA     457     MAD   12:35 +1  LHR   13:55 +1           YS9
 -> BA     15      LHR   21:15 +1  SYD   05:15 +3           YS2
Originally Posted by Paulchili
Does that mean that only LA FFs can book it?
Only QF FFs can use the QF/LA codeshares for redemption purposes.


Originally Posted by Paulchili
I don't think KVS supports LA availability per se.
It sure does:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.7.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
SCL  Santiago De Chile Arturo Merino Benitez CL [SCEL]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
WED  01 Aug 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LA         532     SCL   21:20     JFK   08:10 +1           CS9  YS9
LA/4M      4647    SCL   17:05     EZE   19:10              YS9
 -> AA     956     EZE   20:12     JFK   06:05 +1           FS3
LA         500     SCL   22:25     MIA   05:10 +1           YS9
 -> AA     1256    MIA   07:55 +1  LGA   10:50 +1           FS4
LA/LP      2630    SCL   16:35     LIM   19:35              YS9
 -> LA     530     LIM   23:55     JFK   07:35 +1           CS7
LA         445     SCL   15:00     EZE   17:00              YS9
 -> AA     956     EZE   20:12     JFK   06:05 +1           FS3
LA         500     SCL   22:25     MIA   05:10 +1           YS9
 -> AA     1124    MIA   10:00 +1  LGA   12:55 +1           FS3
LA         500     SCL   22:25     MIA   05:10 +1           YS9
 -> AA     1212    MIA   10:05 +1  EWR   13:00 +1           FS7  YS7
AA         912     SCL   19:50     MIA   04:45 +1           YS7
 -> AA     1114    MIA   06:35 +1  LGA   09:25 +1           YS7
AA         912     SCL   19:50     MIA   04:45 +1           YS7
 -> AA     518     MIA   07:00 +1  JFK   09:50 +1           YS7
AA         912     SCL   19:50     MIA   04:45 +1           YS7
 -> AA     1212    MIA   10:05 +1  EWR   13:00 +1           YS7
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Old Nov 7, 2011, 2:53 pm
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Thank you KVS - as I had said before - I have yet much to learn
Thanks to all the kind FTers here, I am getting better at it (slowly)
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Old Nov 9, 2011, 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Paulchili
Thank you KVS - as I had said before - I have yet much to learn
You're welcome!
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Old Nov 9, 2011, 7:59 pm
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Arrow EY Award Availability Beta
The Beta for the Award Availability on AA's latest redemption partner, Etihad Airways [EY], is now underway.

Those, who have already signed-up for this Beta, should be receiving the relevant instructions within the next few hours. Otherwise, please be sure to check your Spam/Junk e-mail folder.

If you are interested in joining this Beta, but haven't yet done so, please complete the EY Beta RSVP Form on the KVS Tool Homepage at http://www.KVSTool.com/
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Old Nov 10, 2011, 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
The Beta for the Award Availability on AA's latest redemption partner, Etihad Airways [EY], is now underway.

Those, who have already signed-up for this Beta, should be receiving the relevant instructions within the next few hours. Otherwise, please be sure to check your Spam/Junk e-mail folder.

If you are interested in joining this Beta, but haven't yet done so, please complete the EY Beta RSVP Form on the KVS Tool Homepage at http://www.KVSTool.com/
I have the beta installed. Looks like it is showing full class availability. Correct me if I am wrong but I am looking for O for first class, I for business and N for coach?
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Old Nov 10, 2011, 10:47 pm
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Originally Posted by ma91pmh
I have the beta installed. Looks like it is showing full class availability. Correct me if I am wrong but I am looking for O for first class, I for business and N for coach?
That is correct -- please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgrad...es_NonAlliance
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Old Nov 11, 2011, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
Any idea what IL means? See for example AUH-JFK 17th June 2012 shows IL. Day before shows I2
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Old Nov 11, 2011, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by ma91pmh
Any idea what IL means? See for example AUH-JFK 17th June 2012 shows IL. Day before shows I2
L means WaitList. However, since AADV will not Waitlist award seats, it should be treated the same as "0".

Please see also http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Interpreting
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Old Nov 17, 2011, 9:20 pm
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The Beta for the Award Availability on AA's latest redemption partner, Etihad Airways [EY], is complete and this functionality is now available as a part of KVS Tool Version 6.8.0 release, which can be downloaded at http://www.KVSTool.com/

We wish to thank all those KVS Tool members, who have participated in this Beta and provided their feedback.
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Old Dec 23, 2011, 8:59 am
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Can't find flight on KVS?
I was able to find my flight and seat map for Dec 24 flight #312 from SFO-DFW but now it doesn't show up on KVS. Does that mean the flight is completely full? Thanks.
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Old Dec 23, 2011, 9:10 am
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Well, it shows on ExpertFlyer. F has seats open and Y is full except for one Premium seat and a bunch of blocked seats.
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 5:42 pm
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Phantom Availability on KVS for AA or OW blocking by AA?
I was looking at ORD-LIS in July

Amadeus OW search

ORD Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD] MAD Madrid Barajas ES [LEMD]
WED 18 Jul 2012 | 4 Seats
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------
IB 6274 ORD 16:40 MAD 07:40 +1 FS- CS+ YS-

AA rep can not find it.
Is it because AA is now blocking IB and only steers you to BA for YQs?
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Old Jan 1, 2012, 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by ffI
I was looking at ORD-LIS in July

Amadeus OW search

Code:
ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD] 
MAD  Madrid Barajas ES [LEMD]
WED  18 Jul 2012 | 4 Seats
Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
IB         6274    ORD   16:40     MAD   07:40 +1           FS-  CS+  YS-
AA rep can not find it.
Is it because AA is now blocking IB and only steers you to BA for YQs?
Looks like a system connectivity issue on IB's end. Their own engine is currently reporting CS0 and the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Engine is also showing no Award Availability on the ORD flight.

However, there are 4 CS Seats ex-JFK:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.8.1/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
CHI  Chicago Metro IL US = ORD MDW
MAD  Madrid Barajas ES [LEMD]
WED  18 Jul 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AA         374     ORD   12:15     LGA   15:30              FS2  YS7
 -> IB     6250    JFK   18:00     MAD   07:15 +1           YS2
AA         358     ORD   16:00     LGA   19:30              FS2  YS6
 -> IB     6258    JFK   22:15     MAD   11:30 +1           CS4  YS1
AA         98      ORD   21:45     LHR   11:25 +1           YS7
 -> BA     464     LHR   14:00 +1  MAD   17:25 +1           YS9
BA         296     ORD   20:35     LHR   10:00 +1           YS9
 -> BA     464     LHR   14:00 +1  MAD   17:25 +1           YS9
BA         296     ORD   20:35     LHR   10:00 +1           YS9
 -> BA     462     LHR   15:15 +1  MAD   18:40 +1           YS4
Last edited by KVS; Jan 1, 2012 at 6:50 pm
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Old Jan 2, 2012, 2:29 pm
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Admittedly a new KVS user here so please be kind (I have read this thread, done a search and think I've got the KVS basics ok, and have called AA a couple of times...)

Looking for award availability in J or F DFW to BKK and see availability (the DFW to NRT leg is below then the DFW-BKK route just below that. It looks to me that there is availability but it is not seen by the AA agent. I'm using the Amadeus: Awards/CX search, should I be using a different search method? Recommendations appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

[KVS Availability Tool 6.8.1/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/CX]
Code:
DFW  Dallas Metro / Dallas/Fort Worth TX US = DFW DAL [KDFW]
NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
WED  08 Feb 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
AA         175     DFW   09:35     NRT   14:05 +1  777  0   FS+  CS+  YS+  YA+
AA         061     DFW   11:45     NRT   16:15 +1  777  0   FS+  CS+  YS+  YA+
AA         2411    DFW   08:45     LAX   10:10     738  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
 -> AA     169     LAX   10:55     NRT   15:50 +1  777  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
AA         2332    DFW   09:00     ORD   11:20     M83  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
 -> AA     153     ORD   12:20     NRT   16:30 +1  777  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
AA         2332    DFW   09:00     ORD   11:20     M83  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
 -> JL     7009    ORD   12:20     NRT   16:30 +1  777  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
AA         2324    DFW   06:45     ORD   09:10     M83  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
 -> AA     5821    ORD   10:15     NRT   14:30 +1  773  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
Here is the departure DFW-BKK.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.8.1/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/CX]
Code:
DFW  Dallas Metro / Dallas/Fort Worth TX US = DFW DAL [KDFW]
BKK  Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Intl TH [VTBS]
WED  08 Feb 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
AA         061     DFW   11:45     NRT   16:15 +1  777  0   FS+  CS+  YS+  YA+
 -> AA     5834    NRT   18:05 +1  BKK   23:15 +1  763  0   FS/  CS+  YS+  YA+
JL         7011    DFW   11:45     NRT   16:15 +1  777  0   FS+  CS+  YS+  YA+
 -> JL     707     NRT   18:05 +1  BKK   23:15 +1  767  0   FS/  CS+  YS+  YA+
AA         2338    DFW   10:35     ORD   12:50     M83  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
 -> AA     6093    ORD   14:20     HKG   20:20 +1  773  0   FS+  YS+  YA+
 -> AA     6081    HKG   21:40 +1  BKK   23:35 +1  330  0   FS/  YS+  YA+
AA         175     DFW   09:35     NRT   14:05 +1  777  0   CS+
 -> AA     5834    NRT   18:05 +1  BKK   23:15 +1  763  0   CS+
JL         7013    DFW   09:35     NRT   14:05 +1  777  0   CS+
 -> JL     707     NRT   18:05 +1  BKK   23:15 +1  767  0   CS+
AA         175     DFW   09:35     NRT   14:05 +1  777  0   CS+
 -> CX     521     NRT   16:20 +1  HKG   20:35 +1  330  0   CS+
 -> CX     709     HKG   21:40 +1  BKK   23:35 +1  330  0   CS+
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